C9++ - Game End - Mafia Win

Fog

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Ok, I have finally caught up! Sorry I've ended up doing a couple of extra shifts at work and trying to get a stupid achieve on BOI Nottykitten and Mooglie have been witness to my struggle.

Out of TWG and molten, which would you rather us lynch, and why?
I don't know if you still want my answer. But I personally find TWG more suspicious. The reason for this is the fact that he was pushing hard for me to be lynched talking about me following the crowd and not having my own opinions, however, when people pushed him to find evidence of this / explain his reasoning he suddenly backed down and just gave up, possibly because at this point there had been talk of me being mafia, and if the traction built up with him avoiding lynching yet another town player he would appear more town. Something just doesn't sit right to me.

Why shouldn't we lynch you?
Because I'm town? Haha it's a simple response and seems obvious but as you yourself stated earlier this is a numbers game and we need to keep a town majority. I am a "Vaniller Townie" so therefore if you were to lynch a town player I would prefer you to lynch me than another PR and put ourselves in more of a shitty situation. Also I have been less active that some players so I suppose in that respect I am also higher up the list.

On the subject of my activity, I am finding it very strange that some players are basing their reads on the activity of players. Since when has the amount of posts a player made related to their alignment. If this were the case you could argue that Inffy should have been town every game.

Now for reads as people will probably want them:

~ Alisha: Town read on her at the moment, even with her flip-flopping around I get the impression that she is just nervous of mis-lynching as this is a smaller game so the room for error is smaller.​

~ ChocoFox: Neutral read at the moment, I never really understood the suspicion on him tbh.

~ Infected_alien8_: Neutral/Scum I don't really understand him backing me up as being town for like 5 pages then coming out with a massive post saying he thinks I'm mafia... also the fact that he has survived the night also doesn't sit well with me. However, I trust him more than some other players at this stage of the game

~ MoltenAshes: Neutral read, for now, I think he is having the blame placed on him at the moment, without much to back it up
TheWeakGuy48_: Scum as stated earlier, he seems to plant suspicion then back out before the vote is carried through

~ Unusual_Dood: Scum most of his posts have been clear but almost avoiding answering any questions that have been directed to him. I'm also just vibing him and weak as a team. Brotherly love and all that <3

~ Timdood3: Town reading, due to his claim, HOWEVER, I am slightly worried he could be SK and waiting till the game is further on to commit another kill and take the win.

~ catgirl12466: Neutral/Town I don't have too much of a read, however, Tim seemed to trust her for some reason I possibly missed and due to the fact he is the most "proven" town player at this instant.

~ Shadow_Hunter3: Scum I feel he is hiding in the shadows (excuse the pun) hasn't answered any questions as far as I remember, and hasn't submitted anything useful. Reminds me of a past game where a mafia player won or almost won by basically being inactive

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~ Infected_alien8_: Neutral/Scum I don't really understand him backing me up as being town for like 5 pages then coming out with a massive post saying he thinks I'm mafia... also the fact that he has survived the night also doesn't sit well with me. However, I trust him more than some other players at this stage of the game
I didn't say I think you're mafia, just if both molten and TWG end up being mafia (which I don't think is likely), then I will think you're probably mafia, but I still think you're town
 

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Does anybody have any last minute statements before a hammer? Now would be the time since only one vote will end things and I have a feeling an active person might die tonight

I've said everything I've needed to since I offered my scumreads last page
 

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We should also give TWG a chance to say something before anyone hammers
Alright not gonna hammer here - I've seen the discussion and all, and I'm 100% okay with voting Weak - let's wait for Weak to respond. Meanwhile if you really want to ensure a no-hammer will suggest taking off your vote also - though tbh anyone who hammers could be seen as suspicious later on.
 

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Why would you rather we lynch you than tim?
Because if the choice was between me and Tim I think it would do more harm to lynch him than to lynch me. No one has counter claimed either his role or kill, and if he is lying he will just be killed by a likely existing vigilante. The main problem with lynching Tim when he is town is that while we lynch Tim I will still be one of the lynch targets next day and likely be lynched regardless.

Is there a reason you're suddenly being really sarcastic this game
You’re saying that as if there’s a tendency however I have only done that once. And the reason why made it was to show how flawed the points against me were. It wasn’t much of a success though.
 

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The inability of many people to consider perspectives other than their own is what kills town most of the time, and honestly it gets frustrating to see happen every single time a game is played.
What perspective? The one where I say Ernie is Town so I get credit? I didn't do it because I wanted credit I just wanted - I just what I felt about the lynch at that time.

Saying things like 'I'll get an ego boost if I'm lynched'
You're taking what I said out of context. I said "don't lynch me, or I'll get an ego boost" which is another way of saying "don't lynch me, im town" (except I misunderstood what it meant).
So next time you're town and lynched because you make statements like that, don't go scratching your head and asking 'gee whiz why did those stupid people lynch me?????'
Also I'm not exactly helping my cause here, but this paragraph feels like "I know you're town and I'm already <blaming> you, for the mislynch that is going to happen. Infected_alien8_ you should take notice and push for Alisha tomorrow.
TheWeakGuy48_: Scum as stated earlier, he seems to plant suspicion then back out before the vote is carried through
What? I plant suspicion? You've been misunderstanding here, I didn't go for anyone day 0. You're literally making this up to make a point to lynch me.
Another thing you'll notice when looking at these 4 (5 including me) 'compatible' people is that every single one of them except for me prefer a molten lynch. If one of TWG and molten are mafia, and the partners are making any attempt to sway the lynch in their favour at all, this means from my perspective molten is looking like a mislynch, and from yours, unless you think I'm mafia, molten should also be looking like a mislynch.
No way to defend this really - they voted Molten out of a reason, and now you're undermining that and they totally forget about me being a lynch target.

I'm 99,99999999% sure I'll be proven by tomorrow (Alisha that means that I'll be dead and proven townie btw), and then my reads will be highly relevant: LYNCH ALISH or SHADOW TOMORROW(preferably alisha). If you don't want to lynch her, then you're not town. Also read back on my suspects since they're relevant, I only have 1 change to it, and that is that I'm way more suspicious of Inffy now. Also my nightactions (since it'll be slightly relevant later hopefully) is that I visited Fog.

Also because I can

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Fog

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Actually yeah fog when did TWG "plant suspicion then back out"
I'm 85% sure Fog is mafia because he didn't craft his own ideas, rather I just felt like he just clinged on to whatever was more popular at that time.
Fog
*Relaxed when it comes to voting, states his opinion first then votes later.
*Has stated his opinion on a few players, however he has posted when he has opinions even though he only has it on a few people.
*I have to take a hit here, he was not as scummy as I originally thought - I originally read his vote on Ernie as him following the "sheep herd".
*Partook in the Ernie lynch.
I feel this is a complete 180 flip... however...

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