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Mischief said:
You said yourself something something town visibility to win

Also it would be tragic if he is offed without sharing any findings he may have
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Transparency from the roles that are currently useful. If mario/Adam does have an important role announcing it does nothing but make him a target for mafia. If mafia killed him now over any of the other powerful town PRs then they'd be pretty dumb wasting an important kill on a potential gamble
 
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Aqua said:
Transparency from the roles that are currently useful. If mario/Adam does have an important role announcing it does nothing but make him a target for mafia. If mafia killed him now over any of the other powerful town PRs then they'd be pretty dumb wasting an important kill on a potential gamble
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What important roles are there currently? We have had two nights go past so they must have used their ability at least once?

If they die we have no telling of what they saw/did and if they are so important guards would definitely go their way?
 
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Ltin said:
It's Easter and I have now fallen way behind
only so much I can do
will say stuff eventually, once I have caught up with everything
but it's late now and I have things to do tomorrow morning so you'll have to wait.
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my head shakes were at mis
we have plenty of time as long as people don't hammer early again cough
and yeah, Happy Easter!
 
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Mischief said:
What important roles are there currently? We have had two nights go past so they must have used their ability at least once?

If they die we have no telling of what they saw/did and if they are so important guards would definitely go their way?
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the two roles that are currently CCing each other?

I feel like I'm repeating myself here.

If Notty, Omni and Dess all claim it won't be such a negative effect on town as we're more likely to find out whos telling the truth and whos lying.

The reason why only those related to the current topic should be transparent is because they're related to the lynch topic. If everyone is transparent and there is an RiD killer or something and we mess up and don't win quickly like expected we're throwing the game for no reason.

If mario/Adam HAD seen/done anything important don't you think they would tell town?
 
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MoltenAshes said:
Where did you think I came up "Italian M-282" from?
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In general, my apologies for acting like you’re stupid, I forget most people aren’t as dumb as me.
(I still think you’re scum)

I glancingly thought M282 was a gun and that plus Italian was a mafia joke btw.

Do you think it makes sense or have a good guess as to why your action does +1 to the EPS?

Do you have any reads or any other thoughts on the setup, since you’ve been not sharing those. For example, the current wagons?

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If mario/Adam HAD seen/done anything important don't you think they would tell town?
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Not really lol. Since everyone else’s role is out anything they do is important since it just gives us more info without real drawbacks
 
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—— Biannual Economic Update ——
Deadline: 28 April 2019 UTC 22:00.
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Dess - 4 (Nottykitten, Infected_Alien8_, Omni, Aqua) [B-5]
Enderfive - 1 (TheWeakGuy48_) [B-8]
MoltenAshes - 1 (PokeSvorlds) [B-8]

With 16 players, it takes 9 votes to bankrupt and 8 votes to no-bankrupt.

If no option reaches the required number of votes when a deadline hits, the day will end as a no-bankruptcy.
 
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PokeSvorlds said:
Not really lol. Since everyone else’s role is out anything they do is important since it just gives us more info without real drawbacks
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I mean sure if their role was something menial but we don't know that.

My role for instant was far better if I didn't claim, I only claimed to try and set an example which thankfully notty followed because otherwise people would just whine about my hypocrisy.

If when he dies he is outed as doctor or something similar, claiming today wouldn't achieve anything and just cause him to die immediately (or after notty I guess) ergo why massclaims are dumb day 0
 
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I mean sure if their role was something menial but we don't know that.

My role for instant was far better if I didn't claim, I only claimed to try and set an example which thankfully notty followed because otherwise people would just whine about my hypocrisy.

If when he dies he is outed as doctor or something similar, claiming today wouldn't achieve anything and just cause him to die immediately (or after notty I guess) ergo why massclaims are dumb day 0
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Not saying he is a doctor or anything similar but if he has reason not to claim I have reason to believe it. Scum claiming a fake role isn't some massive achievement for town, especially if you're the last to claim so you have very little chance of screwing yourself over with your fake claim.
 
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So here are my reads

Aqua - Sort of neutral at the moment. While he has been very against massclaiming which I certaintly find suspicious, I believe mafias in general would try to stay more under the radar rather than making themselves suspicious like that, and possibly would 'accept the defeat' and go along with the massclaim instead. If this anyone else than Aqua then I would probably have been more suspicious, since he often tends to get into problems like this so for now Im not sure.

Dess - Neutral. Not sure if I entirely believe his claim, as it is a role which if he was lying he could just say he visited another player than the one(s) that got killed, and stranger also claimed jailer which can protect so it's not like we are missing a protection role. I must admit that I haven't followed too much of what he has said so neutral read on him for the moment.

Enderfive - Town. His behaviour comes across to me as similar to the other times I have played with him (mostly town, but also harmless third parties). Also while some might think his 'vig' claim was weird, it should be noted that if he isn't vigilante but is mafia or third party, then a possible vigilante could easily kill him as well as either mafias or possible third party killing roles, depending on his alignment. And thats why Im quite certain he wouldn't fake this and is most certaintly town.

Notme - Suspicious. I did find his "I don't want to massclaim yet" very suspicious at the time for two reasons 1) it to me seemed like mafias (before he said this) were afraid of a massclaim, and when he said so it seemed like he had been trying to stay under radar, but was forced to join the massclaim-or-not discussion just to avoid a massclaim=big trouble for mafias. 2) Notme was one of the players I imagined wouldn't care whether it ended up with a massclaim or not, so that felt out of the ordinary to me. I don't think he has been playing particularly suspicious after that (compared to earlier games I have played with him), but considering his claim as well I think he is our best option if we're going to lynch today.

Infected_alien8_ - Town. While he at times seems sort of uncertain of his reads or who he wants lynched(which I don't think I have seen too much of in earlier games iirc) he is an uncc cop. Aqua had a good point about that with Infecteds odd role name that could mean it isn't an ordinary cop, so that is noteworthy for later.

Ltin - Slight town. Im not too sure what to make of Ltins action as Im not sure how we would use the info from his role. Possibly it can be used to figure out approxiomately how many mafia actions there are? Anyway, I did at first find the way he said he didn't want to claim his role somewhat suspicious, but his behaviour in general and my intuition give me the feeling that he is town.

Mischief - Town. Weird claim, but then again I could see why he/she? didn't want a massclaim considering his suspicious claim. He also was the first or one of the first (don't remember the exact order) to claim his role name and apparently more people have a [generic name] as role name so that makes me believe him. In addition, while I haven't played with him before Im getting this very strong town feeling from his posts in general.

Mooglie - Neutral. He has contributed a lot for the massclaim and also claimed his name early, but then again I could see his role as mafia where he causes problems for town PRs by making their role triple as expensive.

Omni - Suspicious. Haven't seen how he plays as town yet, but Im getting the same vibes from him similar like last game. He is active, but doesn't seem to be contrubuting much and also is against a massclaim and seems very set on lynching Notty for some reason so he would be my number 2 choice after Notme in todays lynch.

Mulbery/Stranger - Its possible that one of these could be mafia since one role blocker and one jailer seems quite powerful on the same side, but then again Mulbery said his action was expensive so that could perhaps have been a move from Alisha to unproblematically include them both. However if they are both town I am assuming mafias have very powerful roles.

Nottykitten - Slight town. Could be a mafia watcher so that's something to watch out for, but I'm getting town vibes from her, and she claimed her name early from what I remember so I'm leaning towards town.

Timdood3 - Slightly suspicious. He did say this: "I think notty and inf are both just townies arguing from different perspectives", which might be genuine but I also feel they might have been attempt at recieving townie poinst if Infected or Notty (however this relies on them both being town) got lynched (I believe they had most votes at the time). Also he claimed his role name late and hasn't claimed his role yet, but then again he has been contributing to the discussion so not sure if that means he is mafia.

The rest - Don't have a particular read on yet.

Like I said I find Notme the best choice for todays lynch, and it also seems like he is the likeliest option that might reach enough votes anyway
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fantome said:
Sorry I was busy the last few days what I don't get is why are we still bouncing around on people and dividing people against each other I think we should pick a person and follow through with them instead of this nonsense
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Because that's not how mafia works?
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Also the way dess has been dodging this thread is kind of suspicious so vote dess
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You've literally been doing the same thing
 
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