Mafia: Saints & Sinners - GAME OVER MAFIA WIN

[BetaPanda]

Also i think sinners are mostly town-aligned, looking back at the summary of Saints & Sinners - it said that Sinners and Saints have to team up to defeat the devil. (This also probably prove my saint theory that saints can help/purify sinners against the devil)

 

[Fog]

beta could be scum trying to look town jumping in to defend alisha at the end

This plus, if what Beta has said...

i think only the devil and the sinners know what ability the sinner would get

Could have just been a way to find out what abilities there are and what threat it is to the maf team

 

[Alisha]

beta's hard trolling rn eitherway it's pretty funny but we've fuckin lost lmao

how is beta hard trolling everything they've said is perfectly reasonable

 

[Aqua]

post #98

what's actually wrong with you?

 

[Timdood3]

Beta being a sinner supports my theory of Sinners being the filler town role. As does the fact that we all have the same ability choices.
I was hoping there'd be some variety.

 

[BetaPanda]

I don’t know who to vote this is screwing with my head

we have 3 people claiming to be ‘the same role’ but could just be scum trying to protect scum

beta’s last minute claim is a bit odd tbh like it seems so strange to claim literally an hour before the deadline

my claim was kinda unplanned, it just happened when alisha was kinda struggling

 

[Alisha]

what's actually wrong with you?

the quarantine changed me

 

[Infected_alien8_]

At this point it's obvious what my role is. I'm also sinner (town-aligned) and i don't think Alisha is mafia-aligned that includes Timdoomd too.
Timdood and Alisha convinced me their sinners because they explained how their roles work thoroughly which aligned what my role was too.
I was gonna reveal mine too but there were others who said it was better not to reveal the role yet so i was 50/50 if i should or not. and then tensions came arise between Alisha, tim and Aqua and i backed down. After a beef with Alisha and Inffy and the decision to lynch Alisha i wanted to know if she was genuine with what she said so i ask her what ability you would get when you deal with the devil.
And i think only the devil and the sinners know what ability the sinner would get - and i also don't think Alisha would be the devil because i'd be risky for the devil to go open about the devil-deal setup thingy.

I want to further this discussion and i think we shouldn't vote alisha
anyways im gonna be suspicious after this
sorry gramr but i hope my point comes across

i mean, why do you think only the devil knows how sinners work? if theres multiple mafia then they could easily all know

and even if thats true, alisha could, as devil, predict that other sinners would out the deal with the devil themselves, so then outing it as the devil herself wouldnt be a risk at all

 

[Aqua]

Aqua thinks the mafia needs to kill all sinners, which seems to be a pretty big conflict of interest since he's trying to lynch one.
"blah blah claim the souls of sinners"
But it's stated in the signup flavor text that the devil is trying to claim all of the souls in new orleans.

The Devil and his friends in the local voodoo community plan on using the festivities to gather the souls of poor, unsuspecting sinners amongst the crowds for their own nefarious purposes. Will the Devil be able to achieve his goal of claiming all the souls in New Orleans?

it's pretty obvious when all sinners souls are collected they win in some way be it out numbering, some insane buff or just straight up wincon

 

[BetaPanda]

i mean, why do you think only the devil knows how sinners work? if theres multiple mafia then they could easily all know

and even if thats true, alisha could, as devil, predict that other sinners would out the deal with the devil themselves, so then outing it as the devil herself wouldnt be a risk at all

but then again.... who knows if the devil knows what ability the sinners would get..... right?

 

[Timdood3]

The Devil and his friends in the local voodoo community plan on using the festivities to gather the souls of poor, unsuspecting sinners amongst the crowds for their own nefarious purposes. Will the Devil be able to achieve his goal of claiming all the souls in New Orleans?

it's pretty obvious when all sinners souls are collected they win in some way be it out numbering, some insane buff or just straight up wincon

Will the Devil be able to achieve his goal of claiming all the souls in New Orleans?

 

[Alisha]

but then again.... who knows if the devil knows what ability the sinners would get..... right?

this is the cruelest betrayal ive ever had happen to me

 

[Aqua]

Any scenario that involves the mafia winning/gaining a considerable advantage by targeting sinners.



Yeah but they're clearly scum so that doesn't count

Ok so let's assume you are a sinner why don't you elaborate what that entails, what does your role say about Deals with the devil etc.?

Timdood3 answer too but at a reasonable time, I don't want you copying alisha's answers

Alisha this is post #98?????????

WHAT ARE YOU DOING PLEASE STOP AAAAAAAAAAAA

 

[Alisha]

Alisha this is post #98?????????

WHAT ARE YOU DOING PLEASE STOP AAAAAAAAAAAA

keep going from there and timdood and i confirm each other

 

[Aqua]

yes I am aware Tim but clearly claiming the SINNERS specifically is a means to that end

 

[BetaPanda]

The Devil and his friends in the local voodoo community plan on using the festivities to gather the souls of poor, unsuspecting sinners amongst the crowds for their own nefarious purposes. Will the Devil be able to achieve his goal of claiming all the souls in New Orleans?

it's pretty obvious when all sinners souls are collected they win in some way be it out numbering, some insane buff or just straight up wincon

I think when the devil collects a soul it could also mean they killed them?

 

[Fog]

PLOT TWIST. WE ARE ALL TOWN AND Stranger from Myst Island IS THE DEVIL WATCHING US SUFFER AND SLOWLY KILL EACH OTHER OFF FOR HER OWN ENJOYMENT!​

 

[sessybessy]

How many votes do we need to lynch?

cause I’m really tired rn but I don’t wanna do what I did last game and just not vote for like 3 days

 

[HKCaper]

you know im starting to think aligment change could be a thing, anyway im down to change just hmu, my team is bad

Aqua thinks the mafia needs to kill all sinners, which seems to be a pretty big conflict of interest since he's trying to lynch one.

say thats the case, and mafia gets told how sinners work, that'd be busted. if mafia doesnt get told, only that they need to get all sinners, alisha and beta seem like they actually have the role info.

pretty sure something like this has already been said, but i think whenever sinners make a deal, the maf also get to use that action. now, i wonder if it would be so obvious as to where as sinners are town, but that would only be possible if maf gets told what sinners are, in which case maf could easily fake claim it.

 

[Aqua]

Alisha you mean the vague post you gave that mafia could easily know - then also the mistake that Tim corrected???

 

[sessybessy]

but then again.... who knows if the devil knows what ability the sinners would get..... right?

Beta is devil confirmed

 

[Fog]

but then again.... who knows if the devil knows what ability the sinners would get..... right?

well, everybody knows now

 

[Aqua]

Alisha you mean the vague post you gave that mafia could easily know - then also the mistake that Tim corrected???

I'm looking for where you and Tim confirmed abilities like Beta did

 

[Alisha]

Alisha you mean the vague post you gave that mafia could easily know - then also the mistake that Tim corrected???

i thought that was enough tbh

 

[BetaPanda]

This is the climax for Day 0 and i'm living in it