EscapeRemastered Mafia: Economy of Madness [Day 3]

[Aqua]

not without claiming my role no

If your role is so shit that you'd rather mafia nightkill you over someone else then why won't you claim?

 

[Alisha]

inf’s posts vibe as having some kind of uncertainty speech compulsion tho

 

[Aqua]

the fact that stranger has leaned towards believing you for having an identical experience based on the phrasing of the pm is literally the definition of pm mechanics to me

this is why PM mechanics are dumb tbh

In a closed set up the only confirmed mechanics we have at our disposal are our role pms, even if people aren't actively claiming it in the thread there will always be cognitive bias in there thought process because of this.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

If your role is so shit that you'd rather mafia nightkill you over someone else then why won't you claim?

well...

either a) im not useless im just not that great of a role, its not impossible the mafia decide to kill me vs shooting in the dark for a better role, so id rather keep it ambiguous so that i might have a better chance at living

or b) i want mafia to think im secretly more useful than im letting on and so im not claiming for that reason

or c) im lying and i am useful and those things i said before about wanting to die were lies to keep maf from killing me

take your pick!

inf’s posts vibe as having some kind of uncertainty speech compulsion tho

n-no way...!

 

[Aqua]

Inf is frightened right now, know they have no leg to stand on and is panicking so hes trying to point the finger at other people!

Didnt even include me in his list because he knows im town

God I really wanted to lynch inf but this is classic scum notty argumentum ad passiones ?

 

[Nottykitten]

well...

either a) im not useless im just not that great of a role, its not impossible the mafia decide to kill me vs shooting in the dark for a better role, so id rather keep it ambiguous so that i might have a better chance at living

or b) i want mafia to think im secretly more useful than im letting on and so im not claiming for that reason

or c) im lying and i am useful and those things i said before about wanting to die were lies to keep maf from killing me

take your pick!


n-no way...!

So you're claiming to have a night action then?

 

[Nottykitten]

God I really wanted to lynch inf but this is classic scum notty argumentum ad passiones ?

Oh please Inf is shifting suspicion off of him, I'm not falling for it!

 

[Infected_alien8_]

God I really wanted to lynch inf but this is classic scum notty argumentum ad passiones ?

its a joke

So you're claiming to have a night action then?

no

 

[Mooglie]

this is why PM mechanics are dumb tbh

In a closed set up the only confirmed mechanics we have at our disposal are our role pms, even if people aren't actively claiming it in the thread there will always be cognitive bias in there thought process because of this.

i concur
i know some games have a template role pm in the signup thread that help counter it

n-no way...!

b-b-b-baka....

 

[Alisha]

no

are you claiming to have a night action or claiming to not have a night action?

 

[Infected_alien8_]

are you claiming to have a night action or claiming to not have a night action?

to be or not to be, that is the question
whether tis nobler ... something something

im not claiming

 

[Aqua]

well...

either a) im not useless im just not that great of a role, its not impossible the mafia decide to kill me vs shooting in the dark for a better role, so id rather keep it ambiguous so that i might have a better chance at living

or b) i want mafia to think im secretly more useful than im letting on and so im not claiming for that reason

or c) im lying and i am useful and those things i said before about wanting to die were lies to keep maf from killing me

take your pick!

Sure but if it's either of the former the benefits we get now by a) not lynching you, a townie
b) getting valuable reads and reactions from myself, notty, alisha etc
and c) another standard to compare other potential role claims to, to help us consider how realistic they are.

out way the negatives, meaning you're either lying or it's option C and if we don't kill you, mafia will.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Sure but if it's either of the former the benefits we get now by a) not lynching you, a townie
b) getting valuable reads and reactions from myself, notty, alisha etc
and c) another standard to compare other potential role claims to, to help us consider how realistic they are.

out way the negatives, meaning you're either lying or it's option C and if we don't kill you, mafia will.

a) isnt a threat right now
b) realistically, no
c) you dont need that right now, or from me specifically right now

 

[Nottykitten]

to be or not to be, that is the question
whether tis nobler ... something something

im not claiming

Scum.

Answer the question

 

[Mooglie]

b) getting valuable reads and reactions from myself, notty, alisha etc

bitch put me in etc

 

[Aqua]

Oh please Inf is shifting suspicion off of him, I'm not falling for it!

Yeah but you can do it in a way that isn't manipulative as fuck my dude.

There is solid inconsistencies in infs arguments and his actions just use them without being all dramatic to appeal to emotion

 

[Nottykitten]

without being all dramatic

Have you met me

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Yeah but you can do it in a way that isn't manipulative as fuck my dude.

There is solid inconsistencies in infs arguments and his actions just use them without being all dramatic to appeal to emotion

what are these solid inconsistencies because im pretty sure ive explained everything youve brought up against me

 

[Aqua]

Have you met me

No I don't leave my house

 

[Nottykitten]

No I don't leave my house

Thank you for saving our elders

what are these solid inconsistencies because im pretty sure ive explained everything youve brought up against me

You not answering whether or not you have a night action. Instead of playing do you don't you, why don't you just answer the question instead of pretending you're both ful and less at the same time

 

[Aqua]

what are these solid inconsistencies because im pretty sure ive explained everything youve brought up against me

>the random decision to answer their question

>the flip flopping of less or exact two posts apart despite claiming to have confirmed it by rereading a few posts prior

>the fact you went from wholeheartedly trusting alisha and notty then acting as if they had to be scum when they claimed to not know for sure about the average coins.

You have 'explained' these things but none of your answers have been the least bit convincing lmao. You acted erratic and contradicted yourself while backtracking and posting irrelevant I'm confused posts to try and excuse yourself.

You getting caught out and panicking seems like a far more realistic explanation than the ones you provided.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

You not answering whether or not you have a night action. Instead of playing do you don't you, why don't you just answer the question instead of pretending you're both ful and less at the same time

theres no pro-town reason for me to give out info of my role day 0 unless im about to be lynched, which right now im not

i never said im both useful and useless i gave different possibilities because im trying to hide how useful i am

 

[Mooglie]

theres no pro-town reason for me to give out info of my role day 0 unless im about to be lynched, which right now im not

i never said im both useful and useless i gave different possibilities because im trying to hide how useful i am

you seemed to advocate for a d0 lynch since theres 11 people earlier and currently youre the literal only option so thats debatable!

 

[Aqua]

You not answering whether or not you have a night action

>the random decision to answer their question

>the flip flopping of less or exact two posts apart despite claiming to have confirmed it by rereading a few posts prior

>the fact you went from wholeheartedly trusting alisha and notty then acting as if they had to be scum when they claimed to not know for sure about the average coins.

You have 'explained' these things but none of your answers have been the least bit convincing lmao. You acted erratic and contradicted yourself while backtracking and posting irrelevant I'm confused posts to try and excuse yourself.

You getting caught out and panicking seems like a far more realistic explanation than the ones you provided.

Also this. You've come so far with your flipflopping now you've gone back to being completely unhelpful after a solid case was bade against you. Seems a pretty weird shift in behaviour from the inf who was so keen to spill the beans earlier.

 

[Nottykitten]

theres no pro-town reason for me to give out info of my role day 0 unless im about to be lynched, which right now im not

You heard him

i never said im both useful and useless i gave different possibilities because im trying to hide how useful i am

Well you can't be useful considering you spent half the day argueing you wanted Mafia to kill you so come out and tell us the truth