Also considering inf was hard devils advocating/defending twg while trying to shift focus onto minor things because "just because it's likely doesn't make it 100% believable" which in itself was a stupid excuse I'm pretty wary of him again - I think if one of the 3 are mafia, it will probably be inf. (or unu since he literally never posts so how does one read him).
im confused i never said "just because it's likely doesn't make it 100% believeable"
i townread/3p read TWG because:
- in the last two games i saw twg as scum he had a clear nervous/weird energy like using emoticons weirdly or being weirdly 'lighthearted' in his typing, but he didnt have that in the short amount of posts he had this game so i was like 'ok thats kind of a meta point in his favour, although hes not got many posts + hes entered the thread in a massclaim so the context is different so i need him to talk more to feel more confident about that, and also i was scum with him both times i saw him as scum so that might have biased me to think he was more obvious when scum than what he really is but also maybe not cuz it felt pretty obvious he was scummy last game yet UNU felt townie even tho i knew he was scum)
- i found it a bit hard to believe that he saw everyone's claims and decided he would claim to be able to buy something (makes him stand out from the pattern) if he was scum
- i thought he wouldnt be super likely to come up with the idea of poison himself cuz it seemed quite an out-there idea, idk how to explain it exactly but i just
felt it wasnt that likely twg would create a poison thing if it wasnt part of his role, idk why exactly i just felt as scum he prob wouldnt have claimed something as interesting as that and would do something more basic instead, maybe biased by the fact he didnt seem to come up with any ideas of a fakeclaim when we were scum together last game but i guess thats not a fair assessment cuz a) he was super busy that game so maybe he didnt have time to even think, b) maybe he just felt claiming sinner was better, c) last game was a different game and the ideas/possibilities available to you are obv gonna be different; and maybe also biased by how he seems to like basic roles more when hes making setups idk the poison thing just felt like something he wouldnt create himself unless it was actually part of his role. so i thought the poison was probs legit at least even if the price of it wasnt, and i didnt see maf having poison since thats kinda OP in 11 player setup to do a double kill with (i guess maybe the poison didnt kill them but blocked or something though), so i thought at most he's 3p who can steal coins and thats how he can afford poison or something but i leaned town cuz of my gut + town sided one-shot vig seemed more balanced than a 3p killer i think (i dont remember if this was a thought i had exactly); but i later changed my mind on twg being unlikely to make up poison cuz suddenly it felt more viable an idea (idk why, i just came to the conclusion that it was plausible that he did make it up)
- the whole 'aqua and notty got told they start with coins cuz they dont get any
day 0' yet oog not getting any coins day 0 yet not starting with them made me wonder if there was another way some of us would get coins day 0 that we hadnt found yet which could make twg's claim more believable
- gut feeling which was probs influenced by some or all of the above
so basically i was overthinking everything and ignoring the simple solution!
if anything that makes me trust inf more since would he really so weirdly defend his mafia buddy like that (i mean this is just a wifom argument so garbage)
i will admit his post near the end of day 0 where he was randomly like 'ya i think twg could have come up with the poison if he was scum now :)' was a bit weird
as i started to trust notty more (cuz i realised they wouldnt come up with black market claim as scum probs) i started to feel twg was more likely to be scum since nottys reads are good in general so maybe that influenced it, idk, at some point i just realized that my 'i dont think twg would come up with poison' thing wasnt as convincing and i suddenly felt he couldve done
meanwhile are all mafia members mafiosos or was twg just like the vanilla mafia role
since his role pm seemed to indicate like it being the same for everyone ('as a mafia member')
that or twg was the only person who could make black market purchases out of the mafia which would make sense as to why notty supposedly didnt get any money
i think it just means that all maf can pool coins to buy from the black market
also you should def ask tim about how the donation thing works!