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Timdood3 tbh you should retract your pr claim

but you literally claimed pr already??? so you're already "out in the open"???

Nottykitten how is your claim different from a 2-man mafia group? literally the only distinction is claiming townsided and not having a kill
How exactly does retracting a claim even work/do anything?
To me, retracting a claim is going "oh yeah I lied about my role, I'm actually something entirely different"
Which, I'm town, I have no reason to lie.

Besides, if I've already claimed, saying "oh no nevermind" does nothing to stop me from being targeted.
 

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How exactly does retracting a claim even work/do anything?
To me, retracting a claim is going "oh yeah I lied about my role, I'm actually something entirely different"
Which, I'm town, I have no reason to lie.

Besides, if I've already claimed, saying "oh no nevermind" does nothing to stop me from being targeted.
Tim you just said you're not gonna give me any proof of you being town (or at least about your role) because you said you don't want to be targeted. AND YET you just admitted you're already most likely gonna be targeted. I say we lynch notty or Tim since ATM we have a 25% chance to lynch a mafia out of the 4 potential (Tim, notty, duffie and jolt) but apparently if we kill notty or tim then the other is affected. But I'm leaning more on the Tim side because of reasons mentioned above. Or we could make the best decision to progress and get rid of shit posts. The only way to do that is to remove terrible memers who think they're cool
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if jolt flips town then tim/notty/duffie is scum team trying to get rid of town protective roles
Sure.
(Also by that logic if the entire town mislynches someone then they obviously did it all intentionally because they're all scum)
((This is the part where Hunter will say "you sound like someone who knows jolt will flip town - I don't think he will by the way - and is trying to make excuses now for when it happens))
(((But no I just don't like being accused of something based on contingencies that haven't and probably won't happen.)))
(("oh but if jolt flips maf then you've got nothing to worry about "))
("I'm just defending myself now on the off chance it does happen")
There, have a simulated conversation between Hunter and myself.
 

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Tim you just said you're not gonna give me any proof of you being town (or at least about your role) because you said you don't want to be targeted. AND YET you just admitted you're already most likely gonna be targeted. I say we lynch notty or Tim since ATM we have a 25% chance to lynch a mafia out of the 4 potential (Tim, notty, duffie and jolt) but apparently if we kill notty or tim then the other is affected. But I'm leaning more on the Tim side because of reasons mentioned above. Or we could make the best decision to progress and get rid of shit posts. The only way to do that is to remove terrible memers who think they're cool
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REALLY!?
 

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I dunno, Duffie seems suspicious to me, to start of with rather than being a jailer she's a curfew inforcer... was it, idk.
What.

What.

Did you, like, not read my post, at all?

Seriously, now I know how Notty feels. You guys need to stop highlighting the keywords that work for your headcanon, because it's just not true.

Anyway so in a game with a lot of vanilla roles it seems a bit odd that it's been renamed.
Hey, if anything, that makes me doubt Jolt more. :p

Secondly if Jolt was innocent, I'm not saying he is but he may be. Do you not think that claiming the same role as him to make him seem like he's lying convince people he's mafia even more than they were before, especially since they're already suspicious of him?
That's completely viable, yes. That's is, indeed, a tactic that is used in the Mafia games.

But, I wasn't planning on outing myself. Far from it. But when someone with pretty much the exact same role as you outs themselves... It makes you wonder.


Adding to above: Duffie's name also makes sense given the fear of clocks.
Wait, it does?

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Reasonings:
Having two jailers is incredibly unlikely.
Even if we did, only one would be town.
Jolt's name is female.
Hooker's are female.
Duffie claims "curfew enforcer." This is backed up by having a fear of clocks.
(This doesn't necessarily mean Duffie if town, but it means she's likely to not be mafia)
Oh, that part. I thought you meant my flavour name. xD

Idk, I honestly believe duffie is less trustworthy than Jolt, although then again Jolt did visit Notty in the Night?

Did you say your role tells you who visits you or something I've forgotten?
OH RIGHT

No one asked, but I visited 77thShad in the night. It probably means absolutely nothing, considering it's a Day 0 => Night 1 choice, but nonetheless.


(This doesn't necessarily mean Duffie if town, but it means she's likely to not be mafia)
I am Town, though. :c
Tim you just said you're not gonna give me any proof of you being town (or at least about your role) because you said you don't want to be targeted. AND YET you just admitted you're already most likely gonna be targeted. I say we lynch notty or Tim since ATM we have a 25% chance to lynch a mafia out of the 4 potential (Tim, notty, duffie and jolt) but apparently if we kill notty or tim then the other is affected. But I'm leaning more on the Tim side because of reasons mentioned above. Or we could make the best decision to progress and get rid of shit posts. The only way to do that is to remove terrible memers who think they're cool
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Wha- I'm not Mafia, though. I'm reading what can't be seen, and it's clearly Town.

I strongly believe that if there's only one Town Jailer, Jolt is Mafia. If there's more... Well, this is a sad state of affairs, then.

But, I'm not full of doubt. I'm sticking my guns to my current vote. "There can only be one," if you will.
 

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where'd you get this from

is this part of your role
Sort of kinda. It came from not-exactly-flavor text The message sent N1 that notty just mentioned. I am claiming town PR. I suspect that Notty's death will have an effect ranging from detrimental to extremely detrimental to town.
Because I know if I don't you're going to force me to sooner or later anyway.
No, it's me not wanting to deal with your inevitable accusations of "Oh, he didn't claim he was town he must be third party or mafia" that you do to literally everyone.
you literally claimed town pr in response to the first post i made regarding you
even if the opinions in the bottom two quotes were valid (they're not), you could have just claimed town. being a power role has no relevancy.
 

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So is it possible that the reason notty was blocked from tracking 77 was because duffie visited them? Did duffie protect them or something, is that how the role works or am I getting confused
blocked from visiting 77/whatever they did*
Whoa, wait, I must have missed this, because I didn't see Notty bring up 77. xD
 

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you literally claimed town pr in response to the first post i made regarding you
even if the opinions in the bottom two quotes were valid (they're not), you could have just claimed town. being a power role has no relevancy.
Fair, but in my mind simply claiming to be town carries next to no weight. On the same hand though... Claiming pr and refusing to provide evidence because it requires claiming (and also brings forth no new information and wouldn't prove me at all) carries equally little weight.

Yes, I put myself in a hole. At this moment I can't get out of it. Give me one, maybe two nights and I will claim. Until then, I ask that you just let me sit in my home until I have the resources to convince you to pull me out of it.
 

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you literally claimed town pr in response to the first post i made regarding you
even if the opinions in the bottom two quotes were valid (they're not), you could have just claimed town. being a power role has no relevancy.
Well I mean didn't Tim say those when we were planning on lynching notty and he mentioned that doing so would be detrimental to him? In which case it makes perfect sense since claiming town PR means we'll have doubts to lynch notty. AANDI JUST HAD A REALIZATION. IF NOTTY AND/OR TIM WERE BOTH TOWN AND LYNCHING ONE IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE OTHER THEN WHY WOULDNT MAF HELP KILL NOTTY? Notty was up to like 8/10 or so 2 more kills and for maf that's basically an easy double town kill with both notty and Tim being harmed. Unless they don't want notty and/or Tim harmed or they had all already voted for notty. I'm not sure which is true or whether all of this is relative or not. But to me it seems like either Tim or notty (or both) are scum
 

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I'm more inclined to believe Duffie because my role name is rather flavorish as well.

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This doesn't make sense to me.

We know of people with fairly vanilla role names.
We (not definitely but a lot of people just claimed them) know of people with flavoury role names.
Why do you think one of them is more suspicious?
 

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Well I mean didn't Tim say those when we were planning on lynching notty and he mentioned that doing so would be detrimental to him? In which case it makes perfect sense since claiming town PR means we'll have doubts to lynch notty. AANDI JUST HAD A REALIZATION. IF NOTTY AND/OR TIM WERE BOTH TOWN AND LYNCHING ONE IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE OTHER THEN WHY WOULDNT MAF HELP KILL NOTTY? Notty was up to like 8/10 or so 2 more kills and for maf that's basically an easy double town kill with both notty and Tim being harmed. Unless they don't want notty and/or Tim harmed or they had all already voted for notty. I'm not sure which is true or whether all of this is relative or not. But to me it seems like either Tim or notty (or both) are scum
It's extremely likely that mafia was already /on/ the wagon.
 

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Well I mean didn't Tim say those when we were planning on lynching notty and he mentioned that doing so would be detrimental to him? In which case it makes perfect sense since claiming town PR means we'll have doubts to lynch notty. AANDI JUST HAD A REALIZATION. IF NOTTY AND/OR TIM WERE BOTH TOWN AND LYNCHING ONE IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE OTHER THEN WHY WOULDNT MAF HELP KILL NOTTY? Notty was up to like 8/10 or so 2 more kills and for maf that's basically an easy double town kill with both notty and Tim being harmed. Unless they don't want notty and/or Tim harmed or they had all already voted for notty. I'm not sure which is true or whether all of this is relative or not. But to me it seems like either Tim or notty (or both) are scum
Because two mafia (jolt & aqua) and maybe more were already voting me at that point?
 

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Well I mean didn't Tim say those when we were planning on lynching notty and he mentioned that doing so would be detrimental to him? In which case it makes perfect sense since claiming town PR means we'll have doubts to lynch notty. AANDI JUST HAD A REALIZATION. IF NOTTY AND/OR TIM WERE BOTH TOWN AND LYNCHING ONE IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE OTHER THEN WHY WOULDNT MAF HELP KILL NOTTY? Notty was up to like 8/10 or so 2 more kills and for maf that's basically an easy double town kill with both notty and Tim being harmed. Unless they don't want notty and/or Tim harmed or they had all already voted for notty. I'm not sure which is true or whether all of this is relative or not. But to me it seems like either Tim or notty (or both) are scum
that's a nice catch, didn't even think of that
 
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