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Oh god did not know that town drunk was not in this game ;_;

Also I was messaged that I was targeted but it did not say In the post that alpha said I think (tl;dr)

If both of the iron golems were to claim their roles I would obviously be lynched off, then they would still be safe to survive because they are the iron golems and they could get hit once and still survive. What would be more profitable for the town would be the iron golems to claim their roles, and as I see no one is doing so so I am obviously the iron golem =3
 
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Well to play devils advocate, and while reminding everyone that this is just a hyper advanced hunch feed on interpetation and not quotes. I suspect Defiant blob, it is just a way for me to get the ball rolling but defiant has certainly taken on a leadership/inquisitor role and we have been having shit luck in picking who we lynch so I would like to pass the spot light on to one of our more active players and hear some defenses there.
 

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The road to ruin Just a note, I play a "leader" role no matter what I am.
Are you saying I am suspicious for being one of the few players who contribute? :I
Sorry, but that just seems completely counter-productive. In fact, lynching the active players seems a bit more suspicious. Mafia would lynch all active players so they can take control of the game.

Anyways, I'd like you to offer a better argument than I am contributing and active. You claimed throughout today that you had a lead. If this was your lead that you got us all anxious for, I'm disappointed.

Just sayin' *shrugs*
 

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Game's going a bit slow so I'm the mafia so I'll post everybody who I'm suspicious of.

Prizyms-Never lost suspicion of him. I thought his posts were vague with his vote for Dessern, him posting quite a bit once I accused him, almost like he's panicking. Also, what 77 said is true, Ooglie not voting for Priz could mean something.

vati180-His entire claim just seems...wrong. Look at what he said:
Perhaps town drunk got him or her
Then four minutes later, he says he has something to say. If he was actually the iron golem, wouldn't he have just said the second line first? That, and the fact the town drunk isn't even in the game. Him saying if he was mafia, the iron golem would CC him. BUT there are two iron golems, making counter claims highly unlikely, because the iron golems don't know who the other golem is.

Defiant_Blob-I've had suspicions since the first day, honestly. It's this post that caught my eye:
Ah, but in mafia you must take which that has happened to determine what one should do next.

As such, you are really soft-claiming as the vigilante .-.
I can safely say Defiant is the most experienced mafia member here. As such, why would he say somebody is soft-claiming as vigilante? To get an answer. If a town sided role has suspicions as to who a town-sided PR is, why would they say it? It stood out to me more after he said something like: "Protip: You shouldn't try to get the doctor to claim"(Or something like that, not going to search for the exact line). That, and him trying all he can to stop prizyms from being lynched. Now, that could mean nothing, I was doing all I can to stop Dessern from being lynched because I thought he was innocent. However, if Prizyms is the mafia, I'm betting Defiant is also.

Now that I've got a giant target on my back, let the discussion begin.
 

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Sploorky Thank you for providing a valid argument.

To address your concerns, I'll start with the soft-claiming vigilante. First off, I'd like to point out the fact that if I was mafia, outting the vigilante wouldn't benefit the mafia at all. Why would I need to point it out at day? However, I do see your point, but it was more of an intent to show that they were appearing to be the vigilante with what they were saying, rather than trying to make them say "Yes, I am the vigilante". That is, it was a tip to them to not look so much like a power role.

Second, you questioned me having defended Prizyms so valiantly. Put simply, I just felt it was a horrid lynch with horrid reasoning, and that the lynch was going along too easily. If someone had provided actual solid reasoning, I would have been more okay with it.

However, I'd also like to note that posting more when targeted for a lynch, or "panicking", is only natural, as they must post more often to retaliate the lynched against them. Rather, it would have been more suspicious if he had hardly defended himself.
 

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Defiant_Blob Nice points. While I do think trying to out a PR would be a good strategy for the mafia, as this gives them an even better target during the night, I am willing to accept that as a signal to not seem like you're a vigilante.

vati180 Ok, I can understand that. That doesn't explain why you went on that whole claiming thing when there are two iron golems. Also, being new is about the best excuse to hide behind if you were the mafia.

I'm still suspicious of Prizyms and, to a lesser extent, Defiant, but if I had to choose somebody to vote right now, it would be vati.
 

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When i said there were 2 Iron Golems, I meant that if supposely i was mafia and claimed I was the targeted Iron Golem, both of the iron golems can contradict me and say that what i say isnt true. If they do do that, then you would lynch off me who was obviously lying. I see no other iron golems who claim that they have been targeted tonight so its obvious its me.
 

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Buuuut, each iron golem doesn't know who the other golem is.

Let's say Marnixxie and I were iron golems. I claimed I was a golem, and he being a golem sees this. However, because he knows who one iron golem is(himself), he doesn't know who the other iron golem is(in this example, me).

Now let's say both you(vati) and Marnixxie were golems, and I am mafia. If I claim I'm a golem, then both of you know of two golems with revealed roles, me and themselves. You don't know who the other iron golem is, and this makes it a -generally-(I say generally because the skeleton or vigilante could snipe him at night) role to claim.
 

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Not posted since the last mafia day started:
Jolteon42 (Pinging incase you're not on vacation anymore)
HarmakPaul
Marnixxie
Prizyms
paceboys
theodorre

This game cannot continue if only half of the total players remaining post. Mass inactivity like this should not be happening.

It's time for prompt questions. You can do these if you want, these are designed to prompt further discussion at times like this.
1. Explain who is the most suspicious to you, and why.

2. Why do you think the game is going slow right now?
 
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