CAPITALISM MAFIA

[Nottykitten]

Why were you expecting them to cc though? Surely it'd be unlikely that they'd claim a role they weren't just because noone else had claimed it since to their point of view it'd be obvious that someone had the role and just was staying quiet ready to cc them. I think you're expecting a cc because you're lying.

I'd find it pretty likely one of them might of claimed it since nobody else claimed. Atleast from my own experience with how I would act in such a situation, it would lead 100% to a CC by the real person but if I were Mafia I would take that and try to get said person lynched, especially if they weren't one-shot and an actual vigilante it would be profitable to lynch them during the day. Kind of like how a Mafia might claim Cop just to try and get the actual cop lynched.

I mean we don't know for sure we even have an SK, for all we know it's been a town vigilante this entire time, or the autocrat has a kill ability.

I mean there is no reason there would be a full vigilante type of role when theres already me. I'd give it a 90% chance there is an SK since the autocrat and SK being the same role just seems unlikely to me.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Also notty why do you find it so "impossible" for all anti-town to be american

 

[Infected_alien8_]

I'd find it pretty likely one of them might of claimed it since nobody else claimed. Atleast from my own experience with how I would act in such a situation, it would lead 100% to a CC by the real person but if I were Mafia I would take that and try to get said person lynched, especially if they weren't one-shot and an actual vigilante it would be profitable to lynch them during the day. Kind of like how a Mafia might claim Cop just to try and get the actual cop lynched.

Yeah but if there's only like 2 maf left then why would they cc just to get someone lynched, it'd be suicide

 

[Infected_alien8_]

(since they'd be lynched next and then they'd have only 1 maf left with like 9 players alive)

 

[HKCaper]

I feel like inffy is going all over the place this game, and i find him (as i said before) very shady. When paige sort of proved that inffy wasnt scum (mafia or sk) I was quite suprised at first, but i started to think he could still be autocrat.

He has been doing some weird shit, and for me it feels he is sorta flipflopping all over. lets start by what paige said a bit ago:

and autocrat should be in one of the above posts where someone really, really wants mafia to die

immediatelly he jumps on the action, and says it's the 'best move right now', despite the fact he has been VOCAL about thinking Oak is scum and going for an Oak lynch for most part of the day. On top of that later he reveals he has a gun and wants to shoot notty. And now he wants to go for autocrat? Besides that lets look at how inffy answered the questions:

Who you think is most likely to be mafia: Oak, then either Notty, Vat, HK or TWG. Possibly oog. Possibly erik. Who knows. But my main suspicion is Oak.
Who you think is most likely to be serial killer: Oog/erik/hk/twg/vat, dunno tbh
Who you think is most likely to be autocrat: HK/oog/twg
Which of the above do you prefer to target today: Oak
How strong is this preference: Fairly strong because he's the only one I have a strong feeling about being scum, regardless of the type of scum he is. But I can see why oog/erik may be a candidate for lynching and I guess I'm maybe okay with trying that? I'd much rather get oog though since at least erik's useful in the day <3 Oog has kinda given up this game which makes me wonder if he's some kind of useless role which doesn't have much power over their win/loss and thus has kind of lost motivation to try (Autocrat/SK can easily be killed at night and lose after all the effort they put in). So if nobody else wants to vote Oak (which I do not understand but ok) then sure I guess I'm open to an oog lynch today. But we should obviously wait for his defense if he ever comes online, and we should also get TheWeakGuy48_ to claim so he can prove himself tonight

OOOH would you look at that. Inffy appears to be one of the people who was strongly in favor of lynching a mafia today. That fits what paige said, mhm, i dont necessarily think paige's idea is true, but its still weird inffy goes along with paige when he fits the description. I'm starting to think more and more inffy is probably autocrat , and am interested to see what the rest of you think of this thought.

 

[Mooglie]

tbh im so done with this game
i'll make a short rant after game is done why it was garbage (im coming for you jivvi)

look i'm mafia
chew on that
it is 100% in everyones best interest to kill me
SK cant win unless last left
autocrat cant win unless town 'wins'
town cant win unless SK, mafia and autocrat are dead

but if you people (town) cant hunt down autocrat and SK while i'm dead, you lose
it's in my best interest to kill autocrat and SK as well so i can win (if u guys keep me alive)
tbh a TOWN ALLIANCE WITH ME WOULD BE NICE (obviously i'd try to kill u guys as well <3 <3 <3)
but i fully expect a lynch against me today since if i'm alive none of the remaining parties can win (idk why im giving u guys a reason to lynch me)

i want a vote happy ending but THATS NOT HAPPENING

 

[Mooglie]

NOTE this is all assuming SK and autocrat are separate people
i'm assuming jivvi would have revealed whether or not autocrat could kill in the autocrat reveal post but who knows

 

[Nottykitten]

Also notty why do you find it so "impossible" for all anti-town to be american

Because the alignments weren't assigned randomly. Jivvi tailored each role to his design and making litterally all anti-town american doesn't seem like something any host would do. Plus also the fact that they litterally can't all be american because I'm town. Infact(HEHEHE since it's an Inf fact get it) if all anti-town were american(with 4 anti-town left) that would mean litterally all 5 americans left right now are not town(since Ender is third part). Now I know this isn't true because I'm town, and you've been cleared by Paige so that puts 2 anti-town to be non-american by simple process of elimination. If you look further and think Paige/Weak are telling the truth about their roles, that would mean there would be 2 anti-town in Vat/Oog/Erik wouldn't there? Tell me if my math here is wrong but the likely hood of those two australians being anti-town is extremely high.

Yeah but if there's only like 2 maf left then why would they cc just to get someone lynched, it'd be suicide

Less suicide than praying a vig-type role wouldn't murder them during the night. With 2 people left they have to take some chances. Plus it'd be 1 left with like 7 alive where the town would then proclaim to try and lynch the autocrat instead and the Mafia could use that to their advantage.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

I feel like inffy is going all over the place this game, and i find him (as i said before) very shady. When paige sort of proved that inffy wasnt scum (mafia or sk) I was quite suprised at first, but i started to think he could still be autocrat.

He has been doing some weird shit, and for me it feels he is sorta flipflopping all over. lets start by what paige said a bit ago:

immediatelly he jumps on the action, and says it's the 'best move right now', despite the fact he has been VOCAL about thinking Oak is scum and going for an Oak lynch for most part of the day. On top of that later he reveals he has a gun and wants to shoot notty. And now he wants to go for autocrat? Besides that lets look at how inffy answered the questions:

OOOH would you look at that. Inffy appears to be one of the people who was strongly in favor of lynching a mafia today. That fits what paige said, mhm, i dont necessarily think paige's idea is true, but its still weird inffy goes along with paige when he fits the description. I'm starting to think more and more inffy is probably autocrat , and am interested to see what the rest of you think of this thought.

Well I did say earlier:

There's also the chance that if we kill Mafia, sk kills another, no other Mafia live and autocrat wins

Hmmmmm I'm rethinking my vote on oak, not because I don't think he's Mafia anymore but because of that risk, but then again there could be 5 Mafia this game but I forget how many players we had to begin with, but it could make sense especially if there's a serial killer

And like I said to paige;

Yeah killing autocrat is the best move right now but it's difficult because we can't really pinpoint who we think is autocrat. Ideally I'd lynch autocrat but I don't really know who I think it is, all I know is that Oak/Notty don't seem town so it seems safe to lynch them but if people have a good idea of who autocrat is and can convince me then I'll join the vote on them. Right now I think it's most likely HK.

 

[Oak Milk]

tbh im so done with this game
i'll make a short rant after game is done why it was garbage (im coming for you jivvi)

look i'm mafia
chew on that
it is 100% in everyones best interest to kill me
SK cant win unless last left
autocrat cant win unless town 'wins'
town cant win unless SK, mafia and autocrat are dead

but if you people (town) cant hunt down autocrat and SK while i'm dead, you lose
it's in my best interest to kill autocrat and SK as well so i can win (if u guys keep me alive)
tbh a TOWN ALLIANCE WITH ME WOULD BE NICE (obviously i'd try to kill u guys as well <3 <3 <3)
but i fully expect a lynch against me today since if i'm alive none of the remaining parties can win (idk why im giving u guys a reason to lynch me)

i want a vote happy ending but THATS NOT HAPPENING

Wait, what

 

[webpaige]

look i'm mafia
chew on that

well I know which 50% outcome it is now :thinking:

 

[HKCaper]

Wait, what

same

 

[Infected_alien8_]

why would a legit mafia just claim mafia im so confused

 

[Oak Milk]

Notty, how the fuck did you nut Ooglie out as mafia

 

[webpaige]

Notty, how the fuck did you nut Ooglie out as mafia

n u t

 

[Nottykitten]

Notty, how the fuck did you nut Ooglie out as mafia

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Because the alignments weren't assigned randomly. Jivvi tailored each role to his design and making litterally all anti-town american doesn't seem like something any host would do. Plus also the fact that they litterally can't all be american because I'm town. Infact(HEHEHE since it's an Inf fact get it) if all anti-town were american(with 4 anti-town left) that would mean litterally all 5 americans left right now are not town(since Ender is third part). Now I know this isn't true because I'm town, and you've been cleared by Paige so that puts 2 anti-town to be non-american by simple process of elimination. If you look further and think Paige/Weak are telling the truth about their roles, that would mean there would be 2 anti-town in Vat/Oog/Erik wouldn't there? Tell me if my math here is wrong but the likely hood of those two australians being anti-town is extremely high.


Less suicide than praying a vig-type role wouldn't murder them during the night. With 2 people left they have to take some chances. Plus it'd be 1 left with like 7 alive where the town would then proclaim to try and lynch the autocrat instead and the Mafia could use that to their advantage.

Oh, is there 5 american claims?

 

[Vatumok]

Well that fot one makes thing a lot easier, I'm actually the town vigilante, Theresa May. Technically I deport people but it just removes them from the game (kill). I actually killed Comp and Arelic (sorry!) because they were rather silent and a bit scummy + I thought it wasn't going well for town.

I already expected that Oog is scum but now that we have confirmation I think we should be able to get the win in. Because I am town vigilante it makes Notty's claim even stranger and now I just want to claim so we can get rid of her. I don't think there was really a feasable situation in my head where notty wasn't 3rd party except maybe Oak + Inffy SK and autocrat. Now I hope this confirms to you guys that notty is scum too.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

SO NOTTY WAS MAFIA AND BUSSED ALL HER PARTNERS????

 

[Infected_alien8_]

And that would explain why oog claimed mafia, since it'd benefit notty and save her

 

[Vatumok]

NOTTY IS THIRD PARTY HELLO INF

 

[Infected_alien8_]

and it'd explain her random suspicion on iggish and her certainty of iggish/aqua

 

[Vatumok]

She's just a good player, probably just figured out who's mafia. If she had suspicions of Iggy it makes sense that she killed him (her being SK).

 

[Infected_alien8_]

NOTTY IS THIRD PARTY HELLO INF

Why not mafia???

 

[Oak Milk]

Well that fot one makes thing a lot easier, I'm actually the town vigilante, Theresa May. Technically I deport people but it just removes them from the game (kill). I actually killed Comp and Arelic (sorry!) because they were rather silent and a bit scummy + I thought it wasn't going well for town.

I already expected that Oog is scum but now that we have confirmation I think we should be able to get the win in. Because I am town vigilante it makes Notty's claim even stranger and now I just want to claim so we can get rid of her. I don't think there was really a feasable situation in my head where notty wasn't 3rd party except maybe Oak + Inffy SK and autocrat. Now I hope this confirms to you guys that notty is scum too.

So then explain the third kill last night