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I'd would like HKC's floormate to claim, honestly HKC is just making himself scummier in this game by not saying who his other floormate.

Also I do not like the theory that there's a silencer in this game. Why would someone be silenced in a game where communication is essential, either the silencer can only silence on day 0 (then maybe silence a person from night chats), the silencer could silence people when there's 5 people necessary and the role would be totally broken. Honestly, I think that Inffy knowingly didn't speak, he has done this before in a different mafia game, so I think this is something he would certainly do.
 
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Sploorky said:
Okay, first time in a few days that I've got to sit in front of my computer, so hopefully this post will be more concise than my previous ones.

HKCaper and Unusual_Dood these four links below are from recent mafia games. In each one it takes one less vote to no lynch somebody than to lynch somebody, and as far as I can see(I did not play nor read these games) there is no silencer role of any type. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this.

https://escaperestart.com/forum/threads/the-bastard-game-day-5.20963/
https://escaperestart.com/forum/threads/waning-sunset-game-over-mafia-win.20838/
https://escaperestart.com/forum/threads/zuplar-invasion-game-over-town-win.20719/
https://escaperestart.com/forum/threads/lost-in-fog-game-over-town-win.20692/

Jivvi I do not understand why if you do not like HK's claim you would vote for me, the person pressuring him on his claim? I am not keen on outing who his floor member is, I do not care who his floor member is. HK has made a claim that could either easily be proven false or easily be proven true. If it is proven false, more likely than not we have found a bad guy. If it is proven true, than we can definitively know there is a silencer in the game(though I believe every alive player has said something this day, which insinuates this is false). Again, I will lay out a course of actions that could happen:

1.) HKCaper is innocent but does not tell us who his floor member is.
2.) His floor member is a mafia, gets spooked at the idea of HK outing him, and makes sure he night two.

I want to avoid this. (Comp you said in a post that maybe both HK and his floor member could be mafia, but I think this is a valid option as well).

Ooglie101 as stated earlier in my post, I don't care who HK's room mate is, I care that we could get screwed out of possibly catching a mafia because we have an easily verifiable claim which is not being verified. It is really not good to not act on this lead.

TheWeakGuy48_ I am aggressive towards HK because of reasons stated above(he is refusing to provide proof for his claim)

I don't know what else I can really add. People say I am acting scummy because I am aggressive, but I am acting aggressive towards HKCaper because he has made a claim he refuses to provide concrete proof for(a second confirmation). I simply do not see a situation where not having that second person confirm his claim is advantageous to the town. I don't think it's wise to assume that there is some third party role that has a great advantage by knowing the room names/setups because we can't focus on the big what ifs. At this stage in the game we just have to find mafia members one by one and get them lynched or killed.

HK refuses to tell us who his floor mate is.
His floor mate refuses to step in and confirm the silencer role even though I am giving HKCaper so much shit for it.

In my eyes, one of these two players has to be scum.
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Okat i looked again all those games and sploorky sorry bud what you are saying is simply not true. You HAVE to look at the days where and odd number of players was alive. On those days it ALWAYS took the same amount of players to lynch and no lynch.

Aqua is not some rookie who would mess that up either.
 
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TheWeakGuy48_ said:
I'd would like HKC's floormate to claim, honestly HKC is just making himself scummier in this game by not saying who his other floormate.

Also I do not like the theory that there's a silencer in this game. Why would someone be silenced in a game where communication is essential, either the silencer can only silence on day 0 (then maybe silence a person from night chats), the silencer could silence people when there's 5 people necessary and the role would be totally broken. Honestly, I think that Inffy knowingly didn't speak, he has done this before in a different mafia game, so I think this is something he would certainly do.
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On top of the proof ill say this one more time. WHY for the love of god would i say inffy was silenced and make the whole thing up if it wasnt so.

Also, if i was lying, the other person in my night chat could have outed to tell you guys i wasnt telling the truth, they havent done that either.
 
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HKCaper said:
Also, if i was lying, the other person in my night chat could have outed to tell you guys i wasnt telling the truth, they havent done that either.
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What if BOTH of you were Mafia? What if one of you is third party and the other Mafia? There is 0 advantage to keeping their name a secret besides withholding information from the town, with the town gaining a clearer picture of the game.

What do you think about what rune said about how there could be 1 Mafia on each floor?
 
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HKCaper said:
Id argue it isnt the same level, but alright ill cut you a deal.

If you can give me a GOOD reason id make this all up, WITH a reason why the votes were weird, ill out my roommate.
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The vote being weird doesnt prove that anything you said about what Inf said is true at all. If you out the person *cough* ender *cough* then they can easely confirm your story. Also why dont you give me one good reason to hold this information back and if youre gonna use the 3rd party argument again come up with a probable role that gains advantage of it.

A good reason you should out being that like I said before there is a good chance Inf was killed because of something he said in the nightchat, that being by you and the other person. Do you not suspect the other person in the slightest bit?

Hell I'd say with the likelyhood that there is 1+ mafia on probably atleast 4 of the floors I'd say the other person should be your biggest suspect unless you are infact that Mafia. One of you two is probably also our best lynch option for today if I'm being honest, statistically speaking.
 
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HKCaper said:
So you are not going to answer me? Alright. Anyone else wanna take a shot and tell me why i would make this up and why the vote was weird?
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First of all you want me to argue Sploors argument when I've given a perfectly fine other reason for you to out them, and second I did answer you and said that the vote being weird does not prove anything you say to be the truth.

For all we know Inf had another mechanic much like Fog's not voting last game and told you this but you chose to go with silencer instead for whatever scummy reasons, maybe because you plan on pretending to be silenced yourself one day. Yes it's not likely you're lying unless both you and them are anti-town which is why it's not even my argument for you revealing them and instead I've provided another one but you wanted an answer so there.

I hope that satisfies you meanwhile don't you agree with what I said about it being statistically extremely likely the other person in your nightchat is Mafia? Especially from your perspective if you're town wouldn't you be suspicious of them when you yourself said theres probably some floors with 0, some with 1 and some with even 2 Mafia. Do you think your floor is the exception and all of you are town?
 
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Alright then. Ill stick to my word, even though he has made it clear he didnt want it revealed. But i guess you are right he is suspicious based on the odds of him being mafia (althought my night chat vibes made me think he is town).

I'm not sure if you thought it was ender, but its not. Its the person who has been very vocal about not wanting people to claim floors. Its oog.
 
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Sploorky said:
HKCaper and Unusual_Dood these four links below are from recent mafia games. In each one it takes one less vote to no lynch somebody than to lynch somebody, and as far as I can see(I did not play nor read these games) there is no silencer role of any type. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about this.

https://escaperestart.com/forum/threads/the-bastard-game-day-5.20963/
https://escaperestart.com/forum/threads/waning-sunset-game-over-mafia-win.20838/
https://escaperestart.com/forum/threads/zuplar-invasion-game-over-town-win.20719/
https://escaperestart.com/forum/threads/lost-in-fog-game-over-town-win.20692/
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Here are all the 'how many players needed to lynch and no-lynch' for all the recent games.
Tavern Arcana -
Day 0: With 23 players alive, it takes 12 players to lynch and 12 players to no lynch.
Day 1: With 21 players alive, it takes 11 players to lynch and 11 players to no lynch.
Day 2: With 20 players alive, it takes 11 players to lynch and 10 players to no lynch.
Day 3: With 15 players alive, it takes 8 players to lynch and 8 players to no lynch.
Day 4: With 12 players alive, it takes 7 players to lynch and 6 players to no lynch.
Day 5: With 7 players alive, it takes 4 players to lynch and 4 players to no lynch.
Day 6: With 4 players alive, it takes 3 players to lynch and 2 players to no lynch.
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Bastard Game -
Day 0: with 20 players alive, it takes 11 votes to lynch and 10 votes to No Lynch.
Day 1: with 17 players alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch and 9 votes to No Lynch.
Day 2: with 13 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch and 7 votes to No Lynch.
Day 3: with 10 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch and 5 to vote No Lynch.
Day 4: with 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to lynch and 4 votes to No Lynch.
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Capitalism mafia -
Day 1: 17 players remain, it takes 9 to lynch (9 to nolynch)
Day 2: 13 players left - 7 to lynch and 7 to no-lynch

Day 3: 9 players remain: 5 to lynch 5 to nolynch
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Waning sunset -
Day 1: with 12 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch, 6 votes to no-lynch.
Day 2: with 10 alive, it takes 6 votes to lynch, 5 votes to no-lynch.
Day 3: with 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to lynch, 4 votes to no-lynch.
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General Quarters -
Day 0: With 16 players it takes 9 to lynch and 8 to no lynch.
Day 1: With 15 players it takes 8 to lynch and 8 to no lynch.
Day 2: With 12 players it takes 7 to lynch and 6 to no lynch.
Day 3: With 10 players it takes 6 to lynch and 5 to no lynch.
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Zuplar Invasion -
Day 0: With 14 players alive, it takes 8 to lynch, 7 to no-lynch
Day 1: With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch or no-lynch.
Day 2: With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch and 6 to no-lynch.
Day 3: With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch or no-lynch.
Day 4: With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch or no-lynch.
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Lost in Fog -
Day 0: With 16 alive it takes 9 to lynch and 8 to no lynch
Day 1: With 14 alive it takes 8 to Lynch and 7 to No Lynch
Day 2: With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch and 6 to no lynch
Day 3: With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch and 7 to no lynch
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As you can see the ammount of people needed to lynch and no-lynch is equal when the number of total players is odd.
 
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Unusual_Dood said:
Here are all the 'how many players needed to lynch and no-lynch' for all the recent games.

As you can see the ammount of people needed to lynch and no-lynch is equal when the number of total players is odd.
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Hey while you're here mind explaining your seemingly random votes?
 
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HKCaper said:
On top of the proof ill say this one more time. WHY for the love of god would i say inffy was silenced and make the whole thing up if it wasnt so.

Also, if i was lying, the other person in my night chat could have outed to tell you guys i wasnt telling the truth, they havent done that either.
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Making us believe Inffy was silence would divert the focus from the mafia and to the silencer, it would make you more believable (as I'd imagine that the chat would be used for something) and it could make confusion within the town.

Also, as Notty said earlier, both of you could be mafia, or one of you could be 3rd party with the other as mafia, and they wouldn't out you. Something that happened is that Inffy could've claimed PR/doctor role and you used the night kill on him instead.
 
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