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I would now like Ooglie to respond with if inffy said he was silenced in his group chat, why he did not claim at all when HK was constantly defending what he said, and why he is so hesitent to reveal his group(to the point that an innocent could be lynched)
yes inf claimed he was silenced
there was no reason to step in at 1 vote and a total of 3 people suspicious of him (you, notty, twg from memory maybe Iggy)
 

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yes inf claimed he was silenced
there was no reason to step in at 1 vote and a total of 3 people suspicious of him (you, notty, twg from memory maybe Iggy)
Yes there were many reasons to step in.

1.) We now know there is a silencer in the game
2.) Excluding the possibility that you and HK are aligned, the odds stand that HK is most likely innocent.
3.) I'm sure there are investigative roles in this game. Not doing what you can to confirm someone's claim/innocence could make those night roles investigate an innocent, wasting their night and hurting the odds of the town.
4.) I've stated multiple times that the other room member could be mafia. Why would you not reveal in fear of HK giving up your name and then you looking like a mafia member?
5.) Those 3 people being suspicious of him was the topic of about 3 or 4 pages, wasting our time and causing us to approach the deadline when you could have told us earlier and we could focus on other matters.
6.) I don't think revealing rooms is a good idea. But not at the cost of possibly throwing an innocent under the bus.

I'm going to cast my vote to fire Ooglie101 for not verifying info and appearing scummy while doing so
 

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1.) We now know there is a silencer in the game
So the silencer was either blocked or it was a one-use thing, or a cooldown etc.
2.) Excluding the possibility that you and HK are aligned, the odds stand that HK is most likely innocent.
By saying this, do you mean that it is much more likely that oog is scum, which therefore makes HK innocent, unless both of them are mafia?
4.) I've stated multiple times that the other room member could be mafia. Why would you not reveal in fear of HK giving up your name and then you looking like a mafia member?
This is one of the most convincing points for me against Ooglie. It would make sense for a mafia to sit quiet and hope that Hk gets killed, while it wouldn't really make sense for a townie to do so, unless they believed that Hk was mafia. But then they would push against Hk which IIRC, Oog has not done so it is certainly suspicious.

fire Ooglie

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not verifying info and appearing scummy while doing so
and mainly point 4 above.
 

Mooglie

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1.) We now know there is a silencer in the game
why would hk lie about this
how would it do him any good
this fact is likely to be confirmed in the up & coming days anyway
there was no reason to be suspicious of hk over it, and no reason for me to verify it??????
not to mention its inf so he could have been lying anyway
2.) Excluding the possibility that you and HK are aligned, the odds stand that HK is most likely innocent.
how
3.) I'm sure there are investigative roles in this game. Not doing what you can to confirm someone's claim/innocence could make those night roles investigate an innocent, wasting their night and hurting the odds of the town.
again, there was no reason to be suspicious over hk for this
and its not like they were going to use their magical investigation powers to discover if a silencer does actually exist or not, that would require them to target somebody (if role cop) and check and nothing hk has said gives any indication to who the silencer is since IT COULD BE LITERALLY ANYONE and so verifying what he said helps nothing in this situation
if you're going to say that a floor investigator would investigate me, well if this role exists and is town sided then sure i'd be down for mass claiming floors but as it is there is no evidence to suggest there are any positive consequences for a mass floor claim but it is much more likely there is a negative consequence (a serial killer that can only kill by knowing what floor people are on) or no consequence at all which means there would be no reason to claim
4.) I've stated multiple times that the other room member could be mafia. Why would you not reveal in fear of HK giving up your name and then you looking like a mafia member?
what is your point here
it can be spun either way
5.) Those 3 people being suspicious of him was the topic of about 3 or 4 pages, wasting our time and causing us to approach the deadline when you could have told us earlier and we could focus on other matters.
suspicious for him for no reasons i was hoping that you would have realised that by now but apparently i set my bar too high
and what other matters are there to focus on
6.) I don't think revealing rooms is a good idea. But not at the cost of possibly throwing an innocent under the bus.
well ok i guess i misinterpreted that (im still gonna leave what i said in this post tho for others to look at and HK HAD 1 VOTE ON HIM I WOULD HAVE SPOKEN UP IF IT GOT ANYWHERE NEAR A LYNCH BUT HINT: IT DIDNT
 

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It would make sense for a mafia to sit quiet and hope that Hk gets killed, while it wouldn't really make sense for a townie to do so, unless they believed that Hk was mafia. But then they would push against Hk which IIRC, Oog has not done so it is certainly suspicious.
hipman500 That's my main reasoning anyway. His reasons for not wanting to claim seem pretty selfish and not town-like compared to the suspicion, waste of time and the waste of effort that the town has been through as a result. Him claiming his room earlier also would've given us the valuable information of whether there is a silencer in the game or not, and by not claiming, he kind of went against the best interests of the town.
 

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hipman500 That's my main reasoning anyway. His reasons for not wanting to claim seem pretty selfish and not town-like compared to the suspicion, waste of time and the waste of effort that the town has been through as a result. Him claiming his room earlier also would've given us the valuable information of whether there is a silencer in the game or not, and by not claiming, he kind of went against the best interests of the town.
could you say anything more holy????????????
tell me how knowing a silencer exists is useful information at all for people right now
tell me why hk would make it up, it literally only would draw attention to him for something people didn't really care about in the first place

i'm honestly either stupid or y'all bad for not seeing why there was literally 0 GOOD reason for why i should have claimed
 

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but was there any reason it would be bad to claim
any known no bad reason, no
but the likelihood of there being a third party that needs to know our floors to do something (e.g. serial killer killing us) or win (but this would be incredibly easy for them, its much more likely they need to know our names -idk if anyone said this yet already but my role came with a name and so did everyone in my room apparently-)
 
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His reasons for not wanting to claim seem pretty selfish and not town-like compared to the suspicion, waste of time and the waste of effort that the town has been through as a result. Him claiming his room earlier also would've given us the valuable information of whether there is a silencer in the game or not, and by not claiming, he kind of went against the best interests of the town.
You could argue that, sure, but you must bear in mind that for Oog to stay silent about his floor just to put HK in the negative spotlight wouldn't be much of an effective strategy given how HK can at any point shift our focus towards him by just revealing his presence on the 3rd floor (as he did a while ago).

This undermines the argument that oog's actions can be explained by him using such a strategy since it can be broken so easily by HK, which leads me to believing that oog has other better reasons to withhold his assigned floor information to the rest of us, something that may prove detrimental.

I am, personally, still open to the idea of an Oog lynch, but right now I'm convinced that voting him should not be our first choice and that we should be slightly more cautious here since it could really go both ways given how the main argument against oog has its flaws.
 

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You could argue that, sure, but you must bear in mind that for Oog to stay silent about his floor just to put HK in the negative spotlight wouldn't be much of an effective strategy given how HK can at any point shift our focus towards him by just revealing his presence on the 3rd floor (as he did a while ago).
hey thats what i wanted to say but completly forgot when i came to writing. but yeah this oog fire thing seems contrived and i feel like we have better targets for a fire hint hint its notty
 

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Danni122112 - Nottykitten(x2) (2/11)
Jivvi - Unusual_Dood (1/11)
Ooglie101 - Sploorky (1/11)
Sploorky - Jivvi (1/11)
Nottykitten - hipman500
(1/11)

With 20 players alive it takes 11 to fire and 10 to no-fire.

Deadline: 25/04 5:00pm GMT
did someone ducking vote block me, or can’t inffy and aqua fucking count
FIRE NOTTYKITTEN
 

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did someone ducking vote block me, or can’t inffy and aqua fucking count
FIRE NOTTYKITTEN
Blame aqua, he did the votecount after you voted, I just trusted that his votecount would be accurate and copied + pasted it and edited in the new ones!!

Votecount

Danni122112 - Nottykitten(x2) (2/11)
Jivvi - Unusual_Dood (1/11)
Ooglie101 - Sploorky (1/11)
Sploorky - Jivvi (1/11)
Nottykitten - Danni122112, hipman500 (2/11)


With 20 players alive it takes 11 to fire and 10 to no-fire.

Deadline: 25/04 5:00pm GMT
 

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Blame aqua, he did the votecount after you voted, I just trusted that his votecount would be accurate and copied + pasted it and edited in the new ones!!

Votecount

Danni122112 - Nottykitten(x2) (2/11)
Jivvi - Unusual_Dood (1/11)
Ooglie101 - Sploorky (1/11)
Sploorky - Jivvi (1/11)
Nottykitten - Danni122112, hipman500 (2/11)


With 20 players alive it takes 11 to fire and 10 to no-fire.

Deadline: 25/04 5:00pm GMT
You forgot me as well.
 
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