EscapeRemastered Mafia: Economy of Madness [Day 3]

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like iirc the exact same thing happened day 0 where i thought you were scum then it was just us 2 talking for a while and then i went to thinking you were town
yh but why would that make you think im town unless im giving off townieness to you/?

also does the fact i am able to not distribute any items change your mind on my role
 

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yh but why would that make you think im town unless im giving off townieness to you/?
since its easy to feel as tho youre talking to a town person when youre having a conversation less about your roles and reads etc and more so on plans and stuff! but you can also fake that stuff as scum since i know i do!
also does the fact i am able to not distribute any items change your mind on my role
i mean in my mind people still cant do 2 actions a night since i dont like that as a mechanic in mafia slightly and so having the choice to not distribute does provide a cover for being able to do the night kill and be like 'OwO i just chose not to distribute since i thought it was safer for town OwO' but i mean all 3 of you are claiming to have that as an option i believe (since stranger didnt call you out on it i think) so like i guess not? but slightly? but not really?
 

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since its easy to feel as tho youre talking to a town person when youre having a conversation less about your roles and reads etc and more so on plans and stuff! but you can also fake that stuff as scum since i know i do!

i mean in my mind people still cant do 2 actions a night since i dont like that as a mechanic in mafia slightly and so having the choice to not distribute does provide a cover for being able to do the night kill and be like 'OwO i just chose not to distribute since i thought it was safer for town OwO' but i mean all 3 of you are claiming to have that as an option i believe (since stranger didnt call you out on it i think) so like i guess not? but slightly? but not really?
yh but if im scum and had a choice of giving town investigative powers or not why wouldnt i just never use my role and claim something else
 

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yh but if im scum and had a choice of giving town investigative powers or not why wouldnt i just never use my role and claim something else
since your role provides decently good safety in being in the 33/33/33 (working with the originally popular idk if people really think it anymore assumption that one of the distributors being mafia) which was especially good for you at the time in day 0 since you were under fire slightly and then stranger slightly came to your rescue by softclaiming first so you knew you had that like safety net + the massclaim did sporadically happen on day 0 so maybe you didnt have enough time to lie + the fact you give town investigative powers works in your benefit as a mafia claim! even if it does also slightly hinder your whole team at the same time
 

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since your role provides decently good safety in being in the 33/33/33 (working with the originally popular idk if people really think it anymore assumption that one of the distributors being mafia) which was especially good for you at the time in day 0 since you were under fire slightly and then stranger slightly came to your rescue by softclaiming first so you knew you had that like safety net + the massclaim did sporadically happen on day 0 so maybe you didnt have enough time to lie + the fact you give town investigative powers works in your benefit as a mafia claim! even if it does also slightly hinder your whole team at the same time
i meant like, in general, why would tim make a scum role that can choose to give investigative abilities, or not

what scum in their right mind would want to use that role instead of just never using it and claiming something else

id argue the 'my role looks townie though' wouldnt be worth it since it could out the rest of my team, or even out me if the investigation is used on me, which it could easily be if i dont claim, and if i do claim, then i become suspicious for not being nightkilled despite my townie claim

and being the scum in a pool of 3 with 1 of you believed to be scum is worse than being in the wider pool!
 

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i meant like, in general, why would tim make a scum role that can choose to give investigative abilities, or not

what scum in their right mind would want to use that role instead of just never using it and claiming something else

id argue the 'my role looks townie though' wouldnt be worth it since it could out the rest of my team, or even out me if the investigation is used on me, which it could easily be if i dont claim, and if i do claim, then i become suspicious for not being nightkilled despite my townie claim
i feel like i answered that still
like id probably claim the role if it were me since my team should just be good enough to not be suspected enough to be investigated if they want to survive the game
it really just comes down to whether the person wants to have an on the surface townie sounding role or not! and tim is just giving the person that choice i guess? + the other distributors have the option to not do it too so you cant exactly not have the option either otherwise thats a giant red flag
and being the scum in a pool of 3 with 1 of you believed to be scum is worse than being in the wider pool!
disagree since while 33/33/33 may be statistically worse on the surface, the fact you all have equal likelihood and useful roles means that noone is really willing to penetrate the bubble incase theyre wrong
to me atleast
otherwise thered be bigger calls to have you/stranger/UNU murdered on day 0 (atleast before twg made a mess)!
 

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like id probably claim the role if it were me since my team should just be good enough to not be suspected enough to be investigated if they want to survive the game
i disagree if im scum i dont think 'well ill give town unnecessary advantages just so that i look more townie, because my team shouldnt be getting investigated anyway' and i dont think most people would think that as well, id be worried i and my team would be investigated
 

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i disagree if im scum i dont think 'well ill give town unnecessary advantages just so that i look more townie, because my team shouldnt be getting investigated anyway' and i dont think most people would think that as well, id be worried i and my team would be investigated
then youre WEAK
your team should fend for themselves
thats what it means to truly be mafia!!!!!
 

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wouldnt you be worried about townies being proven town too though, even if you think your team is never gonna be investigated themselves
not really
as long as you can play well enough to not be investigated, especially with an item in which you have a pretty good idea whos getting it during the day so you can nightkill them, as well as it only coming around every 3 days
 

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not really
as long as you can play well enough to not be investigated, especially with an item in which you have a pretty good idea whos getting it during the day so you can nightkill them, as well as it only coming around every 3 days
i guess

still i think most mafia would never use this role as scum

but anyway, does everyone agree with oog's plan of having everyone donate 100000 coins except me + oog, oog bidding on the bulletproof vest and camera, me bidding on the tonic, and lynching skele? then lynching hk tomorrow unless something else comes up?
 

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honestly even tho i support this plan i still feel theres a chance skeles town cuz him thinking hed be able to get away with suddenly visiting stranger and misreading oog's role and all that, when he couldve just nightkilled me, makes 0 sense
dont make me regret letting you keep your 6 coins as you try and defend your mafia buddy ?
 

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and leaving him til tomorrow lets him at least prove his 1 coin steal thing IF hes town whereas hk could never prove himself

is there no way to lynch hk first AND guarantee oog gets those items
the only other way is giving skele like 5 (hk) + 1 (unu) more coins to work with over night which can be used for black marketing
 

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i mean do you disagree
i dont disagree but i dont think its impossible/that unlikely that their plans just werent that thought through
or that hes your mafia buddy and so couldnt nightkill you and also couldnt take 1 coin from you since (i live in a world where you can only do 1 action a night) he was busy doing the mafia kill and you couldnt claim to have lost 1 coin since i exist to prove if people are lying or not and so he has to have visited a person with 0 coins so he couldnt prove/disprove himself

+ frankly im not too thrilled with going with hk who was your first proper choice to lynch since that means hes probably town to me in a world where you + hk/skele are mafia and so would rather go with skele before you can invent some plan to save him tomorrow/to save hk's life who is inno in this case since skele will flip mafia and so you have no claim to thinking hk is mafia based on alishas murder

but i am a peoples person who does what the people want
 
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