[GAME OVER] Formula Mafia
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Mooglie
NAMEALIGNMENT ROLE DAY ZERO STATUS NIGHT ONE STATUS NIGHT ONE TARGET DAY ONE STATUS NIGHT TWO STATUS NIGHT TWO TARGET DAY TWO STATUS NIGHT THREE STATUS NIGHT THREE TARGET DAY THREE STATUS MOO Town Roleblocker N/A Roleblock TIM N/A Roleblock
(Roleblocked by STR)HKC Received Message Roleblock OKX N/A
Votecount
MOO - [1] - ALI
With 8 players it takes 5 to lynch and 4 to no lynch.
MOO - [1] - ALI
With 8 players it takes 5 to lynch and 4 to no lynch.
_________GAP
| 1. ALI -
| 2. DUF 7
| 3. MOO 2
| 4. BOO 10
| 5. UNU 2
| 6. GOO 1
| 7. OKX 0
| 8. HKC 0
| 9. STR
|10. NOT
|11. INF
|12. HIP
|13. MAR
|14. TIM
| 1. ALI -
| 2. DUF 7
| 3. MOO 2
| 4. BOO 10
| 5. UNU 2
| 6. GOO 1
| 7. OKX 0
| 8. HKC 0
| 9. STR
|10. NOT
|11. INF
|12. HIP
|13. MAR
|14. TIM
I was on Boo last night, following what to me was the main plan.
I am really worried about this game. We know town has, tracker and two roleblockers (okay 1 is a 1shot). Now if we believe boo's claim (which i do) we also have a cop and another roleblocker. I dont necesarily feel unu is scum (i mean he only joined yesterday, but did refuse to claim then), but if this setup also has a 1 shot doc and a full doc, that must be 1 hella op town.
Meanwhile the one confirmed 3p didnt make any sense (as in, what was the purpose) , and the other claimed 3p lools townsided (as in the role).
In addition, iirc roleblocks are mentioned, and there has only been 1 or no nightkills (i guess you could see that mars kill as 2,but thats the only 'stronger' scum thing weve seen) .
Is it just me, or does this make no sense? Ill elaborate a bit in next post.
I am really worried about this game. We know town has, tracker and two roleblockers (okay 1 is a 1shot). Now if we believe boo's claim (which i do) we also have a cop and another roleblocker. I dont necesarily feel unu is scum (i mean he only joined yesterday, but did refuse to claim then), but if this setup also has a 1 shot doc and a full doc, that must be 1 hella op town.
Meanwhile the one confirmed 3p didnt make any sense (as in, what was the purpose) , and the other claimed 3p lools townsided (as in the role).
In addition, iirc roleblocks are mentioned, and there has only been 1 or no nightkills (i guess you could see that mars kill as 2,but thats the only 'stronger' scum thing weve seen) .
Is it just me, or does this make no sense? Ill elaborate a bit in next post.
Mooglie
The Local Cow
what do you even mean convenient
i was blocked night 2 would you like me to have avoided that
it was literally outlined in the plan for me to block okx and im pretty sure he should have received the block message anyway
1) he gave me that dislike rating and deserved punishment
2) if he didn't die that night i would have been rather susp of him since i truly see no better night kill working with the day 0 information
i did say this stuff on day 1
yes it makes no sense i slightly just want this game to end at this point
Even with what we know this game is looking odd, so lets have a look at possibilities and lets start with alisha, someone i have been town vibing most of the game.
It all started yesterday with her mentioning two scum teams for some reasons, which striked me as odd. Then she got put in a chat with unu, who didnt feel the need to claim even tho we wanted, who then claimed full doc (a role, which in my opinion, seems to be too strong to also have in the game), and convinced stranger not too block, who then died. Just seems odd she believed that like that.
Day starts and she places a vote on oog, before boo comes forward with their report, who then comes forward with their report, and she still thinks moog is scum (i guess moog could be like a godfather, but personally i still believe moog, which makes me doubt the existence of a full doc even more.)
All in all, not a good read on alisha for now.
Duffie's role is also weird. She claims to be town sided ish, being a bodyguard for a player, but that'd be too strong right now. Possibly she could have a mafia as her target, but depending on how her target got picked, the odd of getting town would be large, making it a bit strong. Overall, i worry she might not be telling the truth.
There is another look at all this. This town wouldnt look as unbalanced as it does rn if say unu&boo&moog are lying (or other combos). I just dont see boo as lying. Boo claimed cop so early, that would be too risky.
Skele and okx are both roles that could be lying, but iirc both their actions got confirmed (atleast moog knows afaik). Doesnt say much about alignment, but balance wise, their roles dont seem strong.
To sum it up, i believe there's got to be at least 3/4 scum, with atleast 2 maf. My guess would be unu, alisha, duff (and good skele/okx for 4th). I feel confident enough to lynch either of those first 3 today.
I strongly believe moog and boo are town.
It all started yesterday with her mentioning two scum teams for some reasons, which striked me as odd. Then she got put in a chat with unu, who didnt feel the need to claim even tho we wanted, who then claimed full doc (a role, which in my opinion, seems to be too strong to also have in the game), and convinced stranger not too block, who then died. Just seems odd she believed that like that.
Day starts and she places a vote on oog, before boo comes forward with their report, who then comes forward with their report, and she still thinks moog is scum (i guess moog could be like a godfather, but personally i still believe moog, which makes me doubt the existence of a full doc even more.)
All in all, not a good read on alisha for now.
Duffie's role is also weird. She claims to be town sided ish, being a bodyguard for a player, but that'd be too strong right now. Possibly she could have a mafia as her target, but depending on how her target got picked, the odd of getting town would be large, making it a bit strong. Overall, i worry she might not be telling the truth.
There is another look at all this. This town wouldnt look as unbalanced as it does rn if say unu&boo&moog are lying (or other combos). I just dont see boo as lying. Boo claimed cop so early, that would be too risky.
Skele and okx are both roles that could be lying, but iirc both their actions got confirmed (atleast moog knows afaik). Doesnt say much about alignment, but balance wise, their roles dont seem strong.
To sum it up, i believe there's got to be at least 3/4 scum, with atleast 2 maf. My guess would be unu, alisha, duff (and good skele/okx for 4th). I feel confident enough to lynch either of those first 3 today.
I strongly believe moog and boo are town.
You claimed the same ability as one he has. Ofc he is going to suspect you then.
Mooglie
The Local Cow
bad since its confirmed he didnt do the nightkill last night (since i blocked him)
but not that bad but the fact youre suggesting it means im against it tbh
no stranger was claiming they tried to do no penalty to me but since ltin wouldnt let me be voteblocked (since inf died) she had to block me but now theres apparently a no penalty option
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vote mooglie
Reasons:
- never been 3 town blockers on the same team. Ok, there was 2 which is the first time, but there is no way there is also a third one, especially in a small setup like this.
- Ltin had a lawyer in his last game (when there was only 2 mafias), and there should be quite a decent chance there is one here too. If so, it would almost directly make Ooglie mafia, as he is the obvious choice regardless of alignment.
+
- doesn't want to kill a pretty much proven mafia - okx. There has never been two town messengers in a game ever before for a good reason - there is no point. Meanwhile there have been multiple times with mafia ones.
- Apparently was fine blocking okx, 'to prove okx wasn't doing the kill', but usually mafias can only do one action and therefore okxs missing acton DOES THE OPPOSITE - We have no way to know if Okx actually did the kill as his message which in most games would prove he couldnt have done the kill.
- Believes I am mafia because town has very strong roles compared to mafias but this argument is flawed since we don't know either number of mafias or their roles.
Not sure what happened, but there always was according to role info.
Fine, then it's settled.
vote mooglie
Reasons:
- never been 3 town blockers on the same team. Ok, there was 2 which is the first time, but there is no way there is also a third one, especially in a small setup like this.
- Ltin had a lawyer in his last game (when there was only 2 mafias), and there should be quite a decent chance there is one here too. If so, it would almost directly make Ooglie mafia, as he is the obvious choice regardless of alignment.
+
- doesn't want to kill a pretty much proven mafia - okx. There has never been two town messengers in a game ever before for a good reason - there is no point. Meanwhile there have been multiple times with mafia ones.
- Apparently was fine blocking okx, 'to prove okx wasn't doing the kill', but usually mafias can only do one action and therefore okxs missing acton DOES THE OPPOSITE - We have no way to know if Okx actually did the kill as his message which in most games would prove he couldnt have done the kill.
- Believes I am mafia because town has very strong roles compared to mafias but this argument is flawed since we don't know either number of mafias or their roles.
Mooglie
The Local Cow
I'm a little late the scene, someone on the pit crew put sugar in the gas tank ?
have quite literally of skooma's posts btw to evaluate
Mooglie
The Local Cow
2.01
you dont have an issue with hk for very similar reasons
probably because lynching him -> he flips town doc -> you look x100 more susp!!
except in this scenario its probs mylo so you probs wouldnt mind
idk what a lawyer is
proven que
also go find some examples
what
mafia can usually only do one night ability
the message is a day ability
+ you didnt seem to have any quarrels with this plan yesterday
theres not 4 mafia right now (otherwise game would be over), mars was essentially a vanilla mafia killer with the strong day ability, seemingly no mafia roleblocker (unless you think its me but most people seem to be arguing that my entire blocking thing is a lie), compared to a bunch of strong town roles
3 if you include all blocker roles. And it would be closer to 2,25 if you are counting decimals for one-shot which is still more than twice the number of the game with most town blockers. And now we are talking about a small game. It makes no sense
I do have an issue with him, but it's not relevent in reasons as for why you are mafia.
lets say there's a 95% chance he is mafia based on statistics from earlier games.
Rick'n Morty
Ok I didn't know that.
didn't know of the plan
role that chooses a player. If that player is investigated by a cop, the result will be the opposited (town -> antitown, antitown -> town). Ltin had added that role when there were only 1 mafia. In this game there is likely 3-4 so should be a significally higher chance he added one.
'Seemingly no mafia roleblocker' is quite the big assumption just because we haven't seen signs of one yet. Also you are probably that blocker yeah. Still we have no idea of the rest of the mafia roles, and you assume they are weak basically because we haven't seen signs of another blocker.
2 mafias*
Mooglie
The Local Cow
neato
maybe im blind/dumb but i dont remember you bringing this up at all today!
any game with aqua as a host is disqualified tbh
uhh valid i guess
if you havent seen signs of a mafia roleblocker by night 3 this means that theyre blocking the person the mafia kills every night i guess??
and neato
and name me some strong mafia roles that could still exist that would require 1.25 doctors ontop of 2.25 roleblockers (assuming im mafia in this scenario so im excluding myself), a tracker, a cop, 2 night chats (unless you think skele is mafia), duffie apparently bodyguarding someone
1 doctor, as HKC is also mafia.
A lawyer would be very strong in a small setup like this. Hooker as well. If they're 4 in total that shouldalready have balanced towns roles out pretty much imo, so the last could be any role.
cant help but feel alisha and unu cooked something up to fool stranger into not blocking one of them (especiialy since unu refused to claim yesterday (or atleast didnt do it even tho we all wanted it)), and are now trying to get a lynch on moog, DESPITE notty specifically saying that is what we shouldnt do. Combine the fact that alisha dove on moog right away aswell and bingo bango, it doesnt seem right.
also, no way this setup has a full doc in addition to my 1 shot doc. also, alisha #1 reason to believe unu over me seems to be my rolename and thats bogus reasoning. im feeling confident enough about this to vote already. possibly would be down for an alisha lynch as well, but atleast we somewhat know what her action is and it doesnt seem to dangerous. and no im not down for an okx lynch (unu asked earlier), since i believe moog (as in confirming his action), his role is litteraly an exact copy of inf, and in a setup where its confirmed to have more than 1 town roleblocker, thats the only thing that seems somwhat weaker and therefore balanced.
vote unu
also, no way this setup has a full doc in addition to my 1 shot doc. also, alisha #1 reason to believe unu over me seems to be my rolename and thats bogus reasoning. im feeling confident enough about this to vote already. possibly would be down for an alisha lynch as well, but atleast we somewhat know what her action is and it doesnt seem to dangerous. and no im not down for an okx lynch (unu asked earlier), since i believe moog (as in confirming his action), his role is litteraly an exact copy of inf, and in a setup where its confirmed to have more than 1 town roleblocker, thats the only thing that seems somwhat weaker and therefore balanced.
vote unu
ive literally been screwed over by inspecting a godfather in previous games
this feels like the kind of game to have one to make sure a cop isn't able to steamroll through inspections, especially with duffie being third party
this feels like the kind of game to have one to make sure a cop isn't able to steamroll through inspections, especially with duffie being third party