Lost In Fog - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN

hipmeow

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also why does me being delivery driver change the fact that i thought nottys post was a joke also id like to say imo you, inf and notty seem to all be trusting everything each of you says - maybe its all a plan to get us to mass claim then kill us off!??!!?!
 

Mooglie

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also why does me being delivery driver change the fact that i thought nottys post was a joke
you earlier:
i was joking earlier and didnt realise we all have an item or something
hmmm
you didn't realise we all have an item
when your role
is the role
centered around the items
 

Nottykitten

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The lonely child and imaginary friend can claim and prove each other, and they don't really have a reason not to. Mostly since the lonely child is town and shouldn't lie about himself or their imaginary friend. I expect the 4 mafia to be claiming delivery driver(we likely already have atleast 1 Mafia[*cough* hip *cough*]), and we'll end up with 8 delivery driver claims.

I also think we should lynch today, but we'll decide on that after everyone has claimed. I'll table again since whynot.

[xtable=skin1|379x@]
{tbody}
{tr=@x30}
{td=50x30}Name{/td}
{td=138x30}Claimed role{/td}
{td=179x30}Claimed 'requested' item{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x30}
{td=50x30}Notty{/td}
{td=138x30}Delivery driver #1{/td}
{td=179x30}Spicy meme-sauce{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=50x15}Ooglie{/td}
{td=138x15}Pharmacist{/td}
{td=179x15}Courgette{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=50x15}Infected{/td}
{td=138x15}Cake maker{/td}
{td=179x15}The ultimate guide ..... #8{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=50x15}Vino{/td}
{td=138x15}Cop{/td}
{td=179x15} {/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=50x15}HKCaper{/td}
{td=138x15}Bodyguard{/td}
{td=179x15}Feta{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=50x15}Unusual{/td}
{td=138x15} {/td}
{td=179x15}Boots{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=50x15}Iggish{/td}
{td=138x15}Hunter{/td}
{td=179x15}A can of black paint{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=50x15}Ltin{/td}
{td=138x15}Doctor{/td}
{td=179x15}:vatumug:{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=50x15}Weak{/td}
{td=138x15} {/td}
{td=179x15}Sand{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=50x15}Hip{/td}
{td=138x15}Delivery driver #4{/td}
{td=179x15}Tescos chicken and bacon sandwich{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=50x15}Ender{/td}
{td=138x15} {/td}
{td=179x15} {/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=50x15}Mulbery{/td}
{td=138x15}Delivery driver #2{/td}
{td=179x15}Mulberries{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=50x15}Aqua{/td}
{td=138x15} {/td}
{td=179x15} {/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=50x15}Pink{/td}
{td=138x15}Delivery driver #3{/td}
{td=179x15} {/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=50x15}Madara{/td}
{td=138x15} {/td}
{td=179x15} {/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=50x15}Vat{/td}
{td=138x15} {/td}
{td=179x15} {/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
[/xtable]
Note: delivery drivers don't actually have a number, the number represents the order in which they claimed incase someone wants to know.
 

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First of all, can anyone tell me who is trolling and started this mass claim? then I know who to lynch today. Claiming right now might not be -terrible- but at this stage of the game you are giving way more information to the mafia than that it benefits us and there's also the chance it will be bring confusion.

Secondly, I do not trust Notty's claim, for 2 reasons.
1 - Delivery Driver is essentially towny role, there are 4 of them so it's very easy to claim wihout any option for counter.
2 - The way he posts comes over to me that he's trying too hard to gain trust. In his claim post he described the role but anyone could've done that from the role description and later he made the claim tables.
I'm not saying that notty is bad but it's standard mafia play too try too hard.

Hip doesn't come over too trustworthy either but I don't see why you would play a joke that way as mafia.

I will refrain from claiming because I don't want to give that information away right now. Since we already have a cop claimed which presumably can be trusted he should lead town discussion.

Also my requested item is fishsticks
 

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I will refrain from claiming because I don't want to give that information away right now. Since we already have a cop claimed which presumably can be trusted he should lead town discussion.
And what information might that be? You're only hurting the town by holding back this little bit of information. Kind of makes me thing you're the imaginary child. Everything PR is practically out on the table so there is no turning back, just claim already if you're town.

Secondly, I do not trust Notty's claim, for 2 reasons.
1 - Delivery Driver is essentially towny role, there are 4 of them so it's very easy to claim wihout any option for counter.
2 - The way he posts comes over to me that he's trying too hard to gain trust. In his claim post he described the role but anyone could've done that from the role description and later he made the claim tables.
I'm not saying that notty is bad but it's standard mafia play too try too hard.
I make tables since they give a quick, structured overview. 'Trying too hard' maybe, but I just want to make sure we get the most out of today. We can't do that if people refrain from claiming because the deadline is in 3 days. I'd rather not spend the next 2 days asking for claims only to have one day left that turns into a no-lynch because there wasn't enough time to get enough votes for a lynch.
 

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And what information might that be?
Like.. everything??

If we all claim the mafia can deduce the role of every player and they also know what we'll do which means they can easily come up with a strategy that screws us over.

We get some info too but for us it's way more confusing because many people will be lying (both mafia and also townies can lie) and we can't know exactly.

Mass claiming is useful when you need to weed out the last mafia(s) but right now you're we're just giving information to them.
 

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the fuck are you guys doing

let me get an idea of what's going on before i decide if i want to claim or not, but i want to point out two things:
a) the last game we did this in, we did it way smarter and still lost (which really doesn't have to mean anything, but is just an interesting tidbit)
b) vatu's refusal to claim is scummy as fuck now that everyone's going along with it

unvote
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Like.. everything??
Like.. nothing?? Everything is already out on the table, every single town PR has claimed except for the lonely child. So either you're the lonely child/imaginary friend, a Mafia or a delivery driver. The mafia already know everything about our PR's. It'll be usefull to know for the town whether or not you're gonna claim delivery driver, lonely child/imaginary friend or CC something(but you won't since if someone claimed your role you would of counterclaimed by now).
 

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are ender and aqua afk?
the fuck are you guys doing

let me get an idea of what's going on before i decide if i want to claim or not, but i want to point out two things:
a) the last game we did this in, we did it way smarter and still lost (which really doesn't have to mean anything, but is just an interesting tidbit)
b) vatu's refusal to claim is scummy as fuck now that everyone's going along with it

unvote
vote Vatumok
nvm then

Ender, seeing as you haven't posted it yet, what is your requested item?
 

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I've read everything back again and I want to say notty is mafia.

With essentially a townie claim he was really pushing for a mass claim even though Vino, who is in my opinion cleared Cop claimed and more trustworrthy because of that, said he didn't want to do a mass claim day 0. As I've stated before mass claiming right now mostly gives information to mafia. It did look like notty is actively trying to help with the shopping items plan but it's actually very trivial and I'm pretty sure he just did that to earn trust.

I know not claiming right now is not very useful, but IMO we don't get anything out of me claiming right now. I'd rather save that information that I can later -maybe- use if people ended up lying or things are not 100% clear for the mafia yet.

vote Nottykitten
 

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You seem very experienced.

What's your thought on mass-claiming day 0(right now) considering the wide range of town PR's at our disposal?
I'm against massclaims on D0 outside of cop since if CCd you get 1 of the two claims as mafia. If unCCd you have a soft clear cop who is safe until doc dies
But normal Townes claimed already so Idk...
Nvm only hardclaim was me
Honestly you should just claim. A mass-claim is 100% beneficial to the town since we have so many protectors. Let's get this mass-claim started!
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