Mafia: Saints & Sinners - GAME OVER MAFIA WIN

[Fog]

he's saying maf would've been given the role sinner, but not the rolename

so alisha giving the info she did could've easily come from mafia, she didn't give her rolename until after beta did

But would Alisha have known to claim as a sinner? In a game called saints and sinners? As when I first read my role I thought oh I'm mafia as I was a sinner. But that wasn't the case. If I was maf trying to claim town I would more likely have picked a Saint

 

[Aqua]

i said sinner first and the powers we can get

Sinner is literally in the flavour text of the game. You cannot use sinner as evidence of your innocence.

 

[Fog]

I don't even trust Alisha but the more Aqua talks the more his opinions are just clashing in my head which makes me feel he is Maf.

 

[Aqua]

But would Alisha have known to claim as a sinner? In a game called saints and sinners? As when I first read my role I thought oh I'm mafia as I was a sinner. But that wasn't the case. If I was maf trying to claim town I would more likely have picked a Saint

Most people have the ability to read the game they're in fog, I suggest you visit page 1 post #1

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Thoughts on fogs disingenuous campaign that I'm scum btw?

Idk whether he's salty that I'm trying to get him lynched or that this is an actual mafia attempt to try to shift focus onto me

probs both

i said sinner first and the powers we can get

But would Alisha have known to claim as a sinner? In a game called saints and sinners? As when I first read my role I thought oh I'm mafia as I was a sinner. But that wasn't the case. If I was maf trying to claim town I would more likely have picked a Saint

guys aqua's saying the maf got told: "there's a sinner role, it does this and that. you can claim it."

but they didnt get told that the rolename structure is "Poor Sinner <name>"

so alisha and anyone else claiming sinner and what sinner does, without claiming the name, could've come from scum, bearing in mind the info they got given

but beta, who was the first to claim Poor Sinner X rolename structure, is town, because maf didnt get told that, yet he knew it without copying it from anyone

 

[Aqua]

I feel the more Aqua talks the less I trust him. But that might just because I don't enjoy him talking.

I don't even trust Alisha but the more Aqua talks the more his opinions are just clashing in my head which makes me feel he is Maf.

Keep it up bud, maybe add more ellipses next time it'll make you sound more ominous and foreboding

 

[Alisha]

i revealed the powers too

 

[Fog]

probs both




guys aqua's saying the maf got told: "there's a sinner role, it does this and that. you can claim it."

but they didnt get told that the rolename structure is "Poor Sinner <name>"

so alisha and anyone else claiming sinner and what sinner does, without claiming the name, could've come from scum, bearing in mind the info they got given

but beta, who was the first to claim Poor Sinner X rolename structure, is town, because maf didnt get told that, yet he knew it without copying it from anyone

yeah, I understand what Aqua is saying. But then again this whole thing is circumstantial, we are assuming mafia were told about the role and if they were that they weren't told the structure of the name.

 

[Aqua]

i revealed the powers too

Which is why I'm not 100% on you - that being said mafia could still possibly know that

 

[Infected_alien8_]

yeah, I understand what Aqua is saying. But then again this whole thing is circumstantial, we are assuming mafia were told about the role and if they were that they weren't told the structure of the name.

yeah i know thats why im disagreeing that beta is "100% town"

 

[Infected_alien8_]

i revealed the powers too

he thinks maf got told about the powers

 

[Aqua]

but beta, who was the first to claim Poor Sinner X rolename structure, is town, because maf didnt get told that, yet he knew it without copying it from anyone

yeah i know thats why im disagreeing that beta is "100% town"

Plus like I said before it's not just that he said the name structure perfectly, it's also the circumstance and how he said it.

It seems considerably more innocent and an attempt at being helpful than anything negative, especially his follow up responses when I flipped a tit.

Idk maybe I'm being played like a fool but I just get wholesome vibes from beta

 

[BetaPanda]

im also not in favor of a massclaim unless somebody knows why there was a nokill

vv

Probably off-topic but do you think there is a possibility that a Saint prevented the kill? Perhaps they have the similiar ability with the role as a doctor ?

If a Saint did prevented a kill i think they shouldnt out themselves for now because they would obviously be the next target from the mafia

Then again if there are like 3-4 saints and posesses that kind of ability that would be unbalanced ?

so perhaps saints don’t have the doctor ability? or maybe there are few who has it??

 

[Fog]

so perhaps saints don’t have the doctor ability? or maybe there are few who has it??

I would assume that the saints have a range of abilities, so like doctor, cop and the likes

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Aqua do you still think we should massclaim today?

Alisha do you have a response yet to my defences?

 

[sessybessy]

Hi sorry I’m here again, been drowned in work as of late

also

HKCaper Vatumok sessybessy Good Skele Unusual_Dood MarsKid

what's your stance on making a deal with the devil day 0? do you agree that it's a bad move and that it shouldn't be done?

can each of you answer please thank

I personally think it’s a risky move as it’s not known what the consequences of making a deal are but then again it gives more information as to what can happen? I guess?

Also a mass claim will just give Mafia more information imo, perhaps they specifically target Sinners ?

(also what does meta mean I’m confused oops)

 

[Aqua]

@Aqua do you still think we should massclaim today?

Personally yes, the only reason not to IMO is if we've gravely underestimated the number of actual sinners

However I'm not gonna claim if nobody else is

 

[Aqua]

can anybody poke MarsKid HKCaper Unusual_Dood and Vatumok

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Personally yes, the only reason not to IMO is if we've gravely underestimated the number of actual sinners

However I'm not gonna claim if nobody else is

why don't you agree that it's better to massclaim tomorrow than today though, do you think maf doesn't have a blocker/do you truly think they can't nightkill?

 

[Aqua]

why don't you agree that it's better to massclaim tomorrow than today though, do you think maf doesn't have a blocker/do you truly think they can't nightkill?

The only reason we would not massclaim today is if we were 100% sure fog was getting lynched. Right now I'm the only one voting him and we seem to be the only ones actually in favour of lynching him.

 

[Aqua]

The only reason we would not massclaim today is if we were 100% sure fog was getting lynched. Right now I'm the only one voting him and we seem to be the only ones actually in favour of lynching him.

as opposed to massclaiming tomorrow*

 

[Stranger from Myst Island]

can anybody poke MarsKid HKCaper Unusual_Dood and Vatumok

I've poked all these people on discord.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

The only reason we would not massclaim today is if we were 100% sure fog was getting lynched. Right now I'm the only one voting him and we seem to be the only ones actually in favour of lynching him.

hk said he would be happy to vote him too so that's 3 of us which is more support than any other target so far excluding alisha, so imo fog or alisha being lynched is pretty likely so far unless a cop report or something guilties someone else in which case massclaiming still won't alter our decision unless theres a cop cc (which i highly doubt and even then we dont need a massclaim for that to happen)

i guess we'll see what vat/unu/mars say when they get on

 

[sessybessy]

why don't you agree that it's better to massclaim tomorrow than today though, do you think maf doesn't have a blocker/do you truly think they can't nightkill?

I say it’d be better to massclaim tomorrow. If Fog or Alisha are lynched and have been telling the truth then that does change some things.

Also I believe mafia can nightkill, I don’t know what happened last night I’m assuming a roleblock happened but from who? I also believe mafia can nightkill, a mafia game can’t really operate properly if mafia can’t nightkill.

We’ll have to wait for the inactive players to add their views though.

 

[Aqua]

I say it’d be better to massclaim tomorrow. If Fog or Alisha are lynched and have been telling the truth then that does change some things.

If they flip inno when lynched it's even more reason for a massclaim as then the pool of potential mafia is smaller with a higher ratio of mafia to sinners