Mafia: Saints & Sinners - GAME OVER MAFIA WIN

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i think vat/UNU/beta/twg has the scumteam in it

even if im wrong about vat i think skele is town tbh, my gut was pretty strong that we were about to mislynch him, and all game he's been a slight townread of mine and i shouldnt ignore that

so lynching 1 of vat/unu/beta/twg today and 1 tomorrow imo is very likely to guarantee us a successful lynch on one of those lynches

and i propose we lynch UNU first just since aqua, if he lives, can prove me wrong on all the other people, but if UNU doesnt get enough votes im fine lynching vat instead
A unu mislynch would be a lot worse than a sinner mislynch though. I feel like you might be trying to set up a saint mislynch so tomorrow could be a MYLO situation where people are still clueless.
 

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A unu mislynch would be a lot worse than a sinner mislynch though. I feel like you might be trying to set up a saint mislynch so tomorrow could be a MYLO situation where people are still clueless.
if you believe this then why were you wanting to lynch skele instead of a sinner claim, since a skele mislynch would also be worse than a sinner mislynch

unu can never be proven alignment, so he's going to be a questionmark for the entire game if he's left alive. id rather get rid of a questionmark now, instead of in a mylo situation, which we could easily be in for the rest of the game if we mislynch today, regardless of whether its a sinner or a saint. with the sinners theres at least a chance aqua can prove one of them town so wasting a mislynch on one when they couldve been proven otherwise feels like a waste of what could be our last lynch where it's not mylo

but yeah, like i said earlier, numbers wise if we lynch 2 sinners today the likelihood of us correctly lynching is really in our favour, but im pretty confident 3 of you/unu/beta/twg are scum anyways so regardless of which of you we lynch, as long as we lynch 2 of you we should lynch scum in the next 2 days anyway
 

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if you believe this then why were you wanting to lynch skele instead of a sinner claim, since a skele mislynch would also be worse than a sinner mislynch

unu can never be proven alignment, so he's going to be a questionmark for the entire game if he's left alive. id rather get rid of a questionmark now, instead of in a mylo situation, which we could easily be in for the rest of the game if we mislynch today, regardless of whether its a sinner or a saint. with the sinners theres at least a chance aqua can prove one of them town so wasting a mislynch on one when they couldve been proven otherwise feels like a waste of what could be our last lynch where it's not mylo

but yeah, like i said earlier, numbers wise if we lynch 2 sinners today the likelihood of us correctly lynching is really in our favour, but im pretty confident 3 of you/unu/beta/twg are scum anyways so regardless of which of you we lynch, as long as we lynch 2 of you we should lynch scum in the next 2 days anyway
Because I am more confident about Skele flipping scum plus if I see him flip scum I am almost sure Aqua is town. Unu flip will give us barely any information about the other people and put us in a very uncomfortable spot tomorrow if he is town. Sure we can be in a MYLO situation for the next days regardless if we mislynch now but if we guarantee a scum lynch tomorrow it will give us at least 2 more days. In those 2 days mafia will have to kill some people off which narrows down the suspects. Starting tomorrow we will have a lot better idea of how the game works based on this lynch and the night kill.

I've been getting pretty suspicious of inffy now, because I feel like there is a good chance only 1 in that list happen to be scum. Regardless I've made up my mind now that I want to focus on sinners today and Weak is IMO the best target though I'm willing to switch to Beta if people prefer that. Tomorrow one of remaining sinners can be cleared.

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Because I am more confident about Skele flipping scum plus if I see him flip scum I am almost sure Aqua is town. Unu flip will give us barely any information about the other people and put us in a very uncomfortable spot tomorrow if he is town. Sure we can be in a MYLO situation for the next days regardless if we mislynch now but if we guarantee a scum lynch tomorrow it will give us at least 2 more days. In those 2 days mafia will have to kill some people off which narrows down the suspects. Starting tomorrow we will have a lot better idea of how the game works based on this lynch and the night kill.

I've been getting pretty suspicious of inffy now, because I feel like there is a good chance only 1 in that list happen to be scum. Regardless I've made up my mind now that I want to focus on sinners today and Weak is IMO the best target though I'm willing to switch to Beta if people prefer that. Tomorrow one of remaining sinners can be cleared.

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guess i was right and you and UNU are scum buddies huh ;)

very convenient how all of a sudden when UNU is up for a lynch, you suddenly have a well thought out argument for why lynching sinners is better than lynching saints (which is the 1 argument you can possibly use to defend UNU), despite wanting to lynch a saint before that

you say skele was an exception because youre more confident in him flipping scum but if you truly believe lynching sinners has a good chance of guaranteeing us a scum lynch and buying us 2 more days, your read on skele shouldn't matter unless you were very vconfident, and you definitely weren't, because you were "worried", remember

sure its possible you just hadnt thought of this line of thought now but the timing is too convenient and i dont buy it

Because I am more confident about Skele flipping scum plus if I see him flip scum I am almost sure Aqua is town.
why?
 

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meanwhile UNU goes up my townie list since he could've easily claimed another bible name there to get me lynched and didnt (unless he has reason to know that town saints are random names i guess)
unu can never be proven alignment, so he's going to be a questionmark for the entire game if he's left alive.
So you suddenly want to lynch people from your townie list. ok

And the same argument can be brought up against Skele, except if hes town we will also learn vats role. So, unless we're in a mylo which i highly doubt we should lynch skele.

vote good skele

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So you suddenly want to lynch people from your townie list. ok

And the same argument can be brought up against Skele, except if hes town we will also learn vats role. So, unless we're in a mylo which i highly doubt we should lynch skele.

vote good skele

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turns out your name is in the bible so those townie points are gone again

and i townread skele so it cant be brought up against skele no (and his role claim is that it only works if he's killed at night so we wont learn vat's role)

Infected_alien8_ why are you lynching Unu?

You seemed to be convinced that there was no way mafia would have a messenger role earlier, why change your mind now?
i didnt say theres no way mafia would have a messenger role, i said a messenger role is useless for both teams, so its not indicative of his alignment

idm switching to vat at this point either, but if im wrong abut vat you can prove it tomorrow so i don't want to be stubborn and ignore that, but like i said if unu cant get the numbers ill vote vat
 

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unproven sinner you mean? twg and beta
Yeah unproven, and I still trust beta as do a lot of people. I'll flip a coin and pick between TWG and Vat tonight, if they flip poor sinner I guess we lynch the other.

Idk how I feel about the unu lynch, good skele seems to have far less going for there as there is no evidence to support there role existing
 

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Yeah unproven, and I still trust beta as do a lot of people. I'll flip a coin and pick between TWG and Vat tonight, if they flip poor sinner I guess we lynch the other.
i dont get why you trust beta and i think you/others are overlooking them/underestimating them

Yeah unproven, and I still trust beta as do a lot of people. I'll flip a coin and pick between TWG and Vat tonight, if they flip poor sinner I guess we lynch the other.
id rather vat than twg considering vat's been scummy this whole game but twg's just a blank slate

Idk how I feel about the unu lynch, good skele seems to have far less going for there as there is no evidence to support there role existing
still my gut says skele is town
 

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i dont get why you trust beta and i think you/others are overlooking them/underestimating them
vibes, plus their instantaneous reaction to the poor sinner thing without prompting seemed too genuine. Even I wouldn't think to do that in that scenario if I was mafia AND had access to the poor sinner name (which, unless mafia has their own poor sinners, I doubt they do.)
 

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id rather vat than twg considering vat's been scummy this whole game but twg's just a blank slate
so then surely it would be better to visit TWG, and if he flips town, lynch vat?

It's more likely vat is scum when TWG is town than it is for TWG to be scum when vat is town.

i dont get why you trust beta and i think you/others are overlooking them/underestimating them
still my gut says skele is town
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vibes, plus their instantaneous reaction to the poor sinner thing without prompting seemed too genuine. Even I wouldn't think to do that in that scenario if I was mafia AND had access to the poor sinner name (which, unless mafia has their own poor sinners, I doubt they do.)
i read it as "oh heres something i can contribute" because that wouldve been one of few pieces of info they felt they could share to be helpful, and i can easily see them doing that as scum

id already called them out on not contributing much

so then surely it would be better to visit TWG, and if he flips town, lynch vat?

It's more likely vat is scum when TWG is town than it is for TWG to be scum when vat is town.
wat

...yes? my personal opinion is people are sussing skele even though hes town but people are ignoring beta when he might be scum

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...yes? my personal opinion is people are sussing skele even though hes town but people are ignoring beta when he might be scum
my person opinion is that you are sussing beta while you're ignoring skele when he might be scum...?

I can't tell if you're joking or you actually can't see the irony
 

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So you suddenly want to lynch people from your townie list. ok

And the same argument can be brought up against Skele, except if hes town we will also learn vats role. So, unless we're in a mylo which i highly doubt we should lynch skele.

vote good skele

now back to studying.
I guess you're really not reading what is being said here.
 
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