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Oak Milk

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Yeah, but that's a 1 in what, 11 or 12 chance? He's more likely to be a power role or civilian than the godfather.
True, I agree, these are suspicions and theory only, but we can determine which side he is on by lynching Notty, after all notty wouldnt have defended Blob so astutely unless they were both mafia members I believe.
 

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If your accusing Notty of defending Defiant then if we lynch Defiant and hes the Godfather then we can lynch Notty and Nitasu? (I think it was nitasu)
WHOAWHOAWHOA. Why'd you want to lynch ME? All I've done is tell you of the inevitability of the cop being revealed/and or being targeted by the mafia upon revealing. It's obvious that Old_Man_Oak isn't who he says he is, just look at it. He has to be hiding something if he's trying to get himself killed, knowing that he'd survive. Come on guys, Lynch Old! Notty and Defiant haven't done anything lynch-worthy, and Defiant could be a civilian for all we know. Hell, maybe Notty IS the doctor! Don't take those chances!
 

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So hold on, whats your scenario if your wrong and I am an elite civilian.
And what is yours when you are wrong and I'm not even something close to a mafia.
My answer as I said lots of time now... YOU have the highest chance of being a bad guy. I have a way lower chance of being a bad guy. Defiant has a lower chance of being a bad guy. What is the best option? YOU.
You keep telling me we shouldnt lynch you because we could lynch an elite civilian. Thats not that good of reasoning. Because EVERYONE has a chance of being on the town-side. And because we know what role you are, it is better to vote you. Because you dont know what will go wrong when you lynch me and I appear to be town sided. We know what can happen when we vote you. Knowing what will happen is always better than not knowing what will happen.
Also this, to you saying we should lynch me so we can find out everyones role. While we can lynch you aswell to find out the roles.
If you lynch oak instead, theres a way higher chance the town will get something good out of this, and from that you determine wether I am innocent or not.

This also means that if he is the serial killer, [which I think he is], then there will be 1 less murder that night. Doesnt that sound good? :_:
 

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And what is yours when you are wrong and I'm not even something close to a mafia.
My answer as I said lots of time now... YOU have the highest chance of being a bad guy. I have a way lower chance of being a bad guy. Defiant has a lower chance of being a bad guy. What is the best option? YOU.
You keep telling me we shouldnt lynch you because we could lynch an elite civilian. Thats not that good of reasoning. Because EVERYONE has a chance of being on the town-side. And because we know what role you are, it is better to vote you. Because you dont know what will go wrong when you lynch me and I appear to be town sided. We know what can happen when we vote you. Knowing what will happen is always better than not knowing what will happen.
Also this, to you saying we should lynch me so we can find out everyones role. While we can lynch you aswell to find out the roles.
You wanna know my scenario gone bad, I wouldn't last the night now would I, simple as that. Yet you still seem to be trying to push the vote onto me, with the only thing backing your vote the chance that I might be the Serial Killer out of two other elite civilians, the fact that you disregarded my earlier question about what would happen if you are wrong and what your worst case scenario would be suggests to me that you don't care if you care if you are wrong, and just want me gone in either case even if I am the elite civilian.
 

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You wanna know my scenario gone bad, I wouldn't last the night now would I, simple as that. Yet you still seem to be trying to push the vote onto me, with the only thing backing your vote the chance that I might be the Serial Killer out of two other elite civilians, the fact that you disregarded my earlier question about what would happen if you are wrong and what your worst case scenario would be suggests to me that you don't care if you care if you are wrong, and just want me gone in either case even if I am the elite civilian.
I didnt disregard it. I just said that I think there will be no bad scenario. But its the same as yours. I wouldnt last the night.

And I do care if I'm wrong. I just simply don't think I am wrong.
I trust my feelings, I trust my intuition. I have a strong feeling I am right and I am going for that.
 

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I didnt disregard it. I just said that I think there will be no bad scenario. But its the same as yours. I wouldnt last the night.

And I do care if I'm wrong. I just simply don't think I am wrong.
I trust my feelings, I trust my intuition. I have a strong feeling I am right and I am going for that.
Well it appears we have both played our cards then, time to see what everyone else makes of them. The only little nuance I seem to have currently is with nitasu.
WHOAWHOAWHOA. Why'd you want to lynch ME? All I've done is tell you of the inevitability of the cop being revealed/and or being targeted by the mafia upon revealing. It's obvious that Old_Man_Oak isn't who he says he is, just look at it. He has to be hiding something if he's trying to get himself killed, knowing that he'd survive. Come on guys, Lynch Old! Notty and Defiant haven't done anything lynch-worthy, and Defiant could be a civilian for all we know. Hell, maybe Notty IS the doctor! Don't take those chances!
What is this? You say you shouldn't take chances that they might have an important role, yet you ask them to take a chance on me. Furthermore its not what you have done, its the manner in which you have done things that has made me suspicious, and yes I'm bringing this example back, you wanted to know straight up who the cop was and you were very nonchalant about it too. Then there is the fact that you say we shouldn't vote Defiant and Notty but instead me, it more looks like you are just trying to throw suspiscion off those two, only problem is, its so very obvious and a desperate move to boot.
 

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I'd like to say I really don't like the arguments of "Well he could be a good power role, so lets not lynch him" and "Well that's a really small chance of him being this power role". Anyone COULD be anything, it's completely random. Changing your votes based on statistics doesn't seem like a good move to me.

WHOAWHOAWHOA. Why'd you want to lynch ME? All I've done is tell you of the inevitability of the cop being revealed/and or being targeted by the mafia upon revealing. It's obvious that Old_Man_Oak isn't who he says he is, just look at it. He has to be hiding something if he's trying to get himself killed, knowing that he'd survive. Come on guys, Lynch Old! Notty and Defiant haven't done anything lynch-worthy, and Defiant could be a civilian for all we know. Hell, maybe Notty IS the doctor! Don't take those chances!
Why have you been agreeing to everything Notty has been saying, and is now trying to protect both notty and defiant, who were previously trying to prove each others innocence? And making a fake PR claim ISN'T lynch worthy in the slightest? And again, my previous point is brought up. Anyone could be the doctor. Oak could be the doctor. If we stand around and not lynch anybody because of a chance of them being a good PR, we're not going to get anywhere.
 

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Everyone is jumping on the band-wagon. Seriously guys... this is probably some dilema we have just like in the other seasons and the mafia is most likely not saying anything and watching all of this crap go by without saying anything. We should tag the people who have not talked very much about the suspicions on Nottycat, OldmanOak and Defiant_Blob.

My opinion:
Ok let's right some REAL FACTS.

  • Oak can be the Elite civilian or the Serial Killer, nothing else.
  • Oak claims to be the Elite Civilian
This are the real facts we have up to now.
There is a possibility that old_man_oak is the serial killer but if we lynch him today, and he turns out to be the Elite civilian we lose and gain the following:
  • We lose a Elite Civilian
  • We gain less confusion about if Oak was or was not the Serial killer in the future.
For now I am going to tag the people who have not stated their opinions yet about this matter and I will see what they have to say.
 

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I just don't really have much to say in the discussion. If I do, I'll post it.


Neither are yours, technically; we don't know if you're Mafia or not.
For now, I'll abstain... I'm not quite sure, but I'm leaning towards voting for Oak. I'd like to see final arguments from both sides, that would be helpful.
Don't edit your posts, It's against the rules
 

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Don't edit your posts, It's against the rules
Oh, sorry, didn't know that. I'll move the edit here.

Yeahhh... but still, his opinions aren't reliable
Neither are yours, technically; we don't know if you're Mafia or not.
For now, I'll abstain... I'm not quite sure, but I'm leaning towards voting for Oak. I'd like to see final arguments from both sides, that would be helpful.
 

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I am very sorry I have been at basketball and sleeping while this conversation has been going on.

So this is how I se it:

The people who have been suspicious are: Defient_Blob, Nottykitten, old_man_oak, and Nitasu987 (not in the order).
They seen most likely to be Mafia at the moment.

If Defiant is the godfather he would appear as civilian to the detective (the same goes for anyone else).
old_man_oak is either an elite civilian or the godfather.
nottykitten and nitasu987 are acting quite strangely also, I suspect them to be Mafia.

Also my suspicions are drawn off old_man_oak because the other top suspects have all voted for him. ↓↓↓

Vote count

Old_Man_Oak_63 - 2 (Nottykitten, Nitasu987, Defiant_blob)
Viligante, I suggest you kill Defiant or Nitasu next, as the town will most likely lynch notty today. In colclusion my vote is for: Nottykitten.
 
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