I actually think voting Kylieanna is a good choice.
Her reasoning of not voting off the serial killer in day 1 makes me confident she's not the doctor. Why would a doctor want more night killings to happen, when they can only save one person?
Her reasoning of not voting off the serial killer in day 1 makes me confident she's not the doctor. Why would a doctor want more night killings to happen, when they can only save one person?
I like your reasoning; better reasoning than mine against balloon. (Doesn't mean you're off the hook though balloon; I'm keeping an eye on you. ) I will retract my vote for balloon and vote for Kylieanna.
Wait-- is that a genuine vote for Kylie or are you just throwing names out there until Kylie replies?
Ohmygod. I'll be busy till I come back home tonight. PLEASE guys, reasons. I need to catch up so bad.
I'm highly suspicious of Alpha and Storm. Reasons to come...
I was thought of as a doctor? What? I never claimed or tried to make you believe I was a doctor, so why would you think that? I certainly am not a doctor, you silly derps x3.
I don't really have much to say atm. I was trying hard not to get digi to be voted off due to the fact that there wasn't even that much of a chance of her being the serial killer and she could've been anything, saved by the doctor or not, and we made the same mistake voting old man oak off on the first day of mafia season 5. I just think on the first day of mafia the serial killer can be useful, but when we have less people alive (day three/four) it's a risk not worth taking, but of course, this is my first mafia game, and I could be too relaxed for it right now. I just don't think scurrying around and thinking "but we NEED a vote, we'll be screwed if not despite it's the first-second day and we have quite a bunch of people". Yes, I understand the risk of not voting or getting 3 kills on the first-second day, but we still have quite a lot of people, and hurrying a vote can let us lose one.
About my logic of not voting off the serial killer, well, I don't believe I'm the only one who thought this, I just tried to express the idea as much as I could because it seems people simply skimmed over it when someone else posted it and I actually thought it was a good opinion and could work. It was also me trying my hardest to not let someone die when they had a much, much higher chance of being innocent.
I can easily understand your reason of wanting to vote me off, and when I look back on it, pressing so hard on that fact couldn't have worked very well and isn't working very well for me right now, so I did make a mistake, and a single mistake makes a person suspicious in a game of mafia. I was also proven wrong by a few people if my memory serves me, and they also had good opinions, and I think I got the idea then.
Also, I removed my vote for notty a while back when I started to believe he was a elite civ, though I can't remember if I voted for him again. I will retract my vote for a No-Lynch right now, though no one seems to be suspicious, a heated discussion could help us find out who is suspicious and who is not.
Also, me blabbering about Serial Killers being nice to have on the first/second day wasn't even the main point of my argument then; it was me trying my hardest to get people to not kill digi, who I saw as an innocent and randomly accused person in my eyes who had screwed up logic used against her. Just wanted to point this out.
About my logic of not voting off the serial killer, well, I don't believe I'm the only one who thought this, I just tried to express the idea as much as I could because it seems people simply skimmed over it when someone else posted it and I actually thought it was a good opinion and could work. It was also me trying my hardest to not let someone die when they had a much, much higher chance of being innocent.
Actually, you are very much true, because I believe I was the first person to actual state such an opinion, in fact, if you all want reference, go all the way back to Page 3 of this thread, and toward the end of that page, my lengthy post should be prevalent and known in regards to that opinion, because I do believe in that opinion.
Here is the whole post with the actual statement of believing the serial killer was a potential asset in bold for those of you who don't want to flip all the way back there.
First off...
I am extremely happy I am not dead as of yet so... Hooray for me I guess \o/. Really wanted to quite forum Mafia cause of that silly "skilled players don't die = Mafia" debacle back in one of the Mafia Seasons which I found quite disgusting. So-- at least I am alive and can actually contribute to this game for once! (I am very happy 'bout that)
Second off...
I really shouldn't be typing this post! Why you may ask? I should really be getting to my continued report on France and other European countries, and its already 10:45 PM... How fantast---!... Oh dear... However, now that I've been able to skim the postings once more thanks to a quick break I am taking... Seeing the current discussions kind of is making me shake my head and wonder... "WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?!"
Because seriously, the first "major" debate we are having at the beginning of the game is seriously is based on a silly, and must I emphasize a VERY SILLY posting between Digitalmez and Marnixxie BEFORE THE GAME EVEN OFFICIALLY BEGAN?!?
Let's take a look back at what the actual postings that everyone seems to be up in arms with shall we?
No, that doesn't seem in the least suspicious if you ask me.
May I repeat what I said earlier that these were merely postings before the game actually began whence we, the players, stated if we received our role PM's or not so we could officially begin the game. All I see here is a bit of friendly bantering along with silly or funny side-comments to have fun, because you know what, this is a forum game, and we can have fun before the actual game and serious tension begins!--- And during it too. That would be nice.
I remember seeing something similar be brought up by--- I believe our host tonight, The_Road_to_ruin, whom used Marnixxie's "complaining about role" idea before the game actually began as an opening discussion point back in the previous mafia round of Mafia Lite 3.
Now, may I also note that Sjaakeito(however you spell it) also did something similar this round of Mafia with this statement:
If we, as players, can be able to randomly accuse someone out of the blue based on what was stated prior to the beginning of the game based on a tiny, insignificant comment, then we should be able to accuse this Skaakieto of possible Mafia affiliation and lynch him as it seems we have done so with both Marnixxie in the past, and now Digi!
... No, don't do that, that's a TERRIBLE idea, and I believe this line of discussion should very much end here. Once more, it is a silly line of reasoning based off of what easily is seen as simple banter between players before the game proper.
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Now that that is out of the way, I would very much like it if The road to ruinwould possibly clear some line of information up before we go on any further, and that involves the serial killer. I would first like to note an idea that has been passing around players thus far:
Anyways, for me, it looks like Digi was saved by the doctor from the way she died, but it is possible she could have 2 lives, meaning she'd either be an elite citizen or the serial killer. However, I think she was just saved by the doctor, reading the story. We have no way of telling if she does have 2 lives or not this early in the game.
However, as it clearly states in the rules presented on page 1 of this thread, I do not see any indication that the Serial Killer has 2 lives during the night, seen here:
Unless I'm missing something, I do not believe Digi is the Serial Killer as of this date.
However, even if we can discuss whether or not she is the Serial Killer if it indeed does have two lives during the night, I still wouldn't consider voting her off just yet. This was a problem I had back in Season 5 of Mafia when Old_Man_Oak was being pounded into the ground for being assumed the Serial Killer JUST BECAUSE he survived the night due to having an extra life, and I WAS going to bring this up in a comment post-game how I thought it was utterly counter-intuitive and how I really thought people were going overboard with the whole idea. There is a larger chance (especially since I believe road said there were 3 Elite Civilians?) that since digi was safe tonight, that she either is an Elite Civ, or was saved by the doctor (which is open to debate whether or not she is indeed the doctor who saved herself, or the doctor whom she is not, saved her tonight).
And even so, personally, and this has been a philosophy I've gained over the past Mafia games since Mafia Season 3, personally, and yet another thing I would've added if I ever did get around to making that Season 5 comment... I wouldn't kill the serial killer off quite yet. Personally, though risky, I believe that the Serial killer can be a greater asset to the Town at least early on in the game. It allows for a third person to be chosen to be killed during the night, which can include Mafia members, as we have seen tonight. Again, risky, but Mafia is a game of risk, and personally, a risk I would take as a town member in any Mafia season to date.
Plus, now that we KNOW that Digi has lost a life (and if road does say that the Serial killer has two lives), we can keep close tabs on Digi knowing that she can be a potential suspect for the role of Serial Killer, giving us a higher chance of lynching them when we need to.
((And Yes, I am defending digi. I like to defend a lot of people against logic and reasoning I do not find to be extremely good. If I am suspected of Mafia because of this ((I'm looking at you Mafia Season's #something)), then sue me.))
I wont be posting for awhile as I should really get back to doing my report and then sleep and school and whatnot so I didn't post anything on whom I suspect yet/what happened last night/etc. I'll get to that later. Goodnight o/
So honestly, if Kylie must be put up onto the chopping block, then I believe so must I, because I was indeed, the first person to do so.
And honestly, I am VERY surprised Kylie was picked as scapegoat for this suspicion in the first place, over myself, seeing as I believe I did state such an opinion first, and so early in the game.
But besides that, at the moment, the argument against Kylie is rather... well... flawed, because as Kylie already stated, I don't quite remember Kylie ever hinting or stating that she was a power-role, primarily that of the doctor in any way.
I actually think voting Kylieanna is a good choice.
Her reasoning of not voting off the serial killer in day 1 makes me confident she's not the doctor. Why would a doctor want more night killings to happen, when they can only save one person?
In fact, everything apart of Day 1 was essentially focused on protecting Digi against what appeared to be a very flawed argument proposed by Notty.
I believe you are getting the "doctor" idea from the idea that digi, because she had survived the previous night, could be one of 4 scenario's:
1) Digi is an Elite Civilian
2) Digi is the Serial killer
3) Digi is either Mafia or a non-2 life role and was saved via. Doctor
4) Digi IS the doctor and decided to save herself.
First, may is stress the latter scenario's, 3 and 4, which involved the doctor's role. Note that this was a debatable topic in terms of actually defending digi originally again'st Notty's accusations, and at the moment, could still be a possibility. However, this was really the only time the "doctor role" ever came directly up from conversation from what I remember.
Also we must stress the serial killer scenario.
Digi could still be the serial killer, but honestly, if we look back over posts already previously written as well as using normal logic, we can believe that digi, out of all the current players (well, at the time), was relatively quite slim and really not that big of an idea to really jump on that automatically sets digi as a lynching target, at least, that was what the atmosphere was back on Day 1.
However, digi could have been the serial killer, and still can be right now, hiding under our noses.
But to me, such an idea (since it seems im trying to cover every possibility and that I'm on a rant thanks to reading over Day 1 again) that Kylie would be anti-town just because she has a specific opinion in terms of the Serial killer, doesn't directly make her suspicious to me.
Everything else about day 1 was supposed to somewhat show additional ideas in your flaw/argument (unless you give evidence of Kylie and the doctor), but I'm not entirely sure if I made a point or not/if it was clear.
At the moment, I don't see myself voting off Kylie(or digi, seeing as I tended to stray toward her a lot in that >.<) any time soon with that argument.
Honestly. despite myself stating No Lynching isn't a very good idea at this point,
seeing how the arguments have progressed thus far, and how little some people seem to be participating, nothing is really getting done this in-game day, and really, I'm tempted just to No-Lynch to get this day over with. We aren't getting anywhere with these arguments (at least, it seems that way to me).
We still need more activity from the quieter crowd.
I don't think we should jump the gun just yet... we accused both Notty and Hockey, and neither were Mafia. That's just my comments. We should think it through a bit more. Not sure on no lynch though.
Okay anyways, I voted kylieanna to do a reaction test, which in my opinion she passed. I want to hear why it is a good idea to lynch her as she seems, well, cleared to me.
Okay anyways, I voted kylieanna to do a reaction test, which in my opinion she passed. I want to hear why it is a good idea to lynch her as she seems, well, cleared to me.
Hold on a minute...
You revealed your role as a lyncher because your target, Hockey, was killed last night. Unless I'm wrong, the lyncher only gets one target.
My vote's on Defiant, unless it can be confirmed that the lyncher is assigned a new target once the old one is dead.
Hold on a minute...
You revealed your role as a lyncher because your target, Hockey, was killed last night. Unless I'm wrong, the lyncher only gets one target.
My vote's on Defiant, unless it can be confirmed that the lyncher is assigned a new target once the old one is dead.
Now my head hurts... I don't now how to make sense of this at all and it is just beginning to be a pain in the butt to read. Anyways TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND ANSWER TIME
1. Who is the most suspicious to you and why?
2. Do you believe the role claims?
3.STATE YOUR FREAKING OPINION ON WHAT IS GOING ON!
1. Honestly, Dessern your way of providing a reaction test for Kylie confuses me, as Kylie's only post since you posed the reaction test was about having tea. No strategy talk whatsoever yet you clear her despite her providing no defense against our accusations. But I also don't know what the quieter people are thinking, and that is making this day very tough because of their lack of input.
2. I 100% believe that Defiant_Blob is the lyncher. I will NOT vote for Defiant. If you guys want to lynch him and prove that he is the lyncher after death, go ahead.
3. I'm annoyed at every time someone is brought up for questioning, all it takes is one sentence to clear them. Suddenly, everyone is innocent. I still maintain my opinion that reluctance is going to kill this game because of inactivity unless someone starts making some moves, which I have attempted multiple times but to no avail.
I was thought of as a doctor? What? I never claimed or tried to make you believe I was a doctor, so why would you think that? I certainly am not a doctor, you silly derps x3.
I don't really have much to say atm. I was trying hard not to get digi to be voted off due to the fact that there wasn't even that much of a chance of her being the serial killer and she could've been anything, saved by the doctor or not, and we made the same mistake voting old man oak off on the first day of mafia season 5. I just think on the first day of mafia the serial killer can be useful, but when we have less people alive (day three/four) it's a risk not worth taking, but of course, this is my first mafia game, and I could be too relaxed for it right now. I just don't think scurrying around and thinking "but we NEED a vote, we'll be screwed if not despite it's the first-second day and we have quite a bunch of people". Yes, I understand the risk of not voting or getting 3 kills on the first-second day, but we still have quite a lot of people, and hurrying a vote can let us lose one.
About my logic of not voting off the serial killer, well, I don't believe I'm the only one who thought this, I just tried to express the idea as much as I could because it seems people simply skimmed over it when someone else posted it and I actually thought it was a good opinion and could work. It was also me trying my hardest to not let someone die when they had a much, much higher chance of being innocent.
I can easily understand your reason of wanting to vote me off, and when I look back on it, pressing so hard on that fact couldn't have worked very well and isn't working very well for me right now, so I did make a mistake, and a single mistake makes a person suspicious in a game of mafia. I was also proven wrong by a few people if my memory serves me, and they also had good opinions, and I think I got the idea then.
anyways...
1. Honestly I would have to say Alpha right now. I don't know why I feel this way but the way you are pushing for a lynch? It just reads to me like you want as many town sided people as possible gone.
2. As for Defiant I am in the middle
3.I hate it. People make a conscious effort to try to post at least once a day unless circumstances prevent it.
) I will retract my vote for balloon and vote for Kylieanna.
