MEDIEVAL MAFIA: INTRUSION [DAY 8]

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Hunter

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How experienced are you with Mafia games?
Somewhat, I've played in a good amount of Forum Mafia games here, but never got too far (Pro tip: Don't RP as an old prospector whose parents are native american shamans when you're the passenger bodyguard.)
What are your strengths (What do you think your strengths could be) in a game of Mafia?
I guess I'm a good Rp'er and I am open to all possibilities.
How suspicious do you deem yourself to be?
I don't think I'm that suspicious, but you never know.
I had just noticed the abundance of questions asked, along with the bandwagoning nature, which gave me the impression he was slightly unfamiliar with the gameplay.
 

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My point of view:
  • Pim seems suspicious for reasons mentioned by endersteve, but partially defends himself
  • nitasu appears to want to bandwagon (which is understandable since he's new to the game)
No, you're quite mistaken. If there are two doc claims, the only thing that can happen with a lynch is bad.
  1. Real doc is lynched. Fake doc survives another night and can perform their night action with the mafia.
  2. Fake doc is lynched. Real doc is killed during the night and town is screwed over in regards to protection.
As for the doctor issue, there are other possible outcomes with multiple claims if neither are lynched.
  1. The quoted outcomes
  2. Neither is lynched, but vigilante kills fake doctor while real doctor survives, arousing suspicion (never mind, roles are released upon death)
  3. Same situation, but real doctor is accidentally killed by vigilante
  4. Vigilante kills fake doctor, real doctor is mafia-killed
  5. Neither is killed overnight; town is slightly stunned
Interestingly, nobody has mentioned the vigilante in their statements.
My argument was purely about lynching, not kills.
I wasn't disagreeing with or consciously implying your argument was incomplete. Your post was quoted as a useful reference to the discussion. Perhaps I should have removed the quotes-within-quotes before posting.
 

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Please forgive my lack of posting, internet was crappy this morning.

From what it seems the most suspicious people are Pim and Priz?

Please correct me if I'm wrong. Also I see that people are pushing for a Lynch, and I guess whatever the group decides is best is probably best because there are people here with more experience than I have.
Just going to be blunt here and tell you to stop agreeing with what everybody else is doing and make your own mind up. Not contributing and simply going with everyone else is toxic to the game, and results in the stronger players being killed off, leaving the less vocal players able to be swayed easily by the mafia and third parties. Suspicion is not some value that can be measured on a scale or whatnot - I may be a top FoS for some, but may also be a purely vocal player to others with no suspicion. I'm not just saying this because I'm considered suspicious - I would have said this if it was anybody being suspected through hive mentality alone.

Well fine, My making-up-my-mind is to go with everyone else for today, seeing as It's so hard to tell who is the right person to lynch. Also Hunter27a1 I'm familiar with the gameplay, I just never make it far in these things and imo it's illogical to say who I really think is suspicious because it makes no sense.
 

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I think given the timeframe left and our current situation, the most we can do it narrow down the Pim/Nita predicaments. Anything that will require more attention, such as the Prizyms vs GmK drama, may be best left for tomorrow.
At the moment, Pim is the most suspicious to me, mostly from his perfect mimicry of Notty's vote on page five, right down the the sudden withdrawal complete with reaction-testing claim. Now that I think about it, Notty seems to be trying to exploit WIFOM loops to make people appear suspicious, when the reverse is equally likely.

Power roles don't out today.
Despite saying that this should wait til tomorrow, I'd like to point out that there seems to be a power struggle between Priz amd GmK. Prizyms has been out with blatant rules to follow, while GmK has been providing some particularly forceful points of view. While you might say but Jivvi, Priz is being helpful!, this seems a little forceful, and, I know that if I was trying to assume control of the town, I would start with an order to do something risky, I'd start with a statement like Prizyms'
 

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This is kind of my mind map for links so far~

Endersteve5 attacked Pim
Nottykitten attacked Jivvi
Pim followed Nottykitten and attacked Jivvi
HypeBurst, Endersteve5 and Arachiadonic defended Jivvi

Alpha103, Prizyms and Sploorky appear to be collaborating in a corner, with the occasional interjection from The Road to Ruin and GmK

Pim failed to start a bandwagon, and took a hiding from Endersteve5, but everyone else has mostly ignored this

Nottykitten is falling ass over head in WIFOM loops

Ltin seems to agree with everyone

Potential mafia links could include~

Myself and Notty (unlikely)
Hype. Ender, Arac and myself (more likely)
Notty and Pim (not too likely)
Alpha, Priz and Sploork (not likely)

If we assume that I am mafia, it casts suspicion on a large portion of the group. If Nottykitten proves to be mafia, it casts suspicion over Pim. If Pim proves innocent, Endersteve may fall suspicious.

These are just strange ideas floating around in my head that I've caught with a butterfly net and smooshed into this text box, so don't make harsh judgements. These are just ideas. If we can add more, and subtract the unlikely ones, perhaps we could and up with a successful lynch.

Right now, there seems to be a power clash between Prizyms and GmK, while Sploorky's fallen a little quiet
Pim and Nita have also done fine jobs of throwing suspicion onto themselves.

So I dunno
Make of this what you will~
 

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This is kind of my mind map for links so far~

Endersteve5 attacked Pim
Nottykitten attacked Jivvi
Pim followed Nottykitten and attacked Jivvi
HypeBurst, Endersteve5 and Arachiadonic defended Jivvi

Alpha103, Prizyms and Sploorky appear to be collaborating in a corner, with the occasional interjection from The Road to Ruin and GmK

Pim failed to start a bandwagon, and took a hiding from Endersteve5, but everyone else has mostly ignored this

Nottykitten is falling ass over head in WIFOM loops

Ltin seems to agree with everyone

Potential mafia links could include~

Myself and Notty (unlikely)
Hype. Ender, Arac and myself (more likely)
Notty and Pim (not too likely)
Alpha, Priz and Sploork (not likely)

If we assume that I am mafia, it casts suspicion on a large portion of the group. If Nottykitten proves to be mafia, it casts suspicion over Pim. If Pim proves innocent, Endersteve may fall suspicious.

These are just strange ideas floating around in my head that I've caught with a butterfly net and smooshed into this text box, so don't make harsh judgements. These are just ideas. If we can add more, and subtract the unlikely ones, perhaps we could and up with a successful lynch.

Right now, there seems to be a power clash between Prizyms and GmK, while Sploorky's fallen a little quiet
Pim and Nita have also done fine jobs of throwing suspicion onto themselves.

So I dunno
Make of this what you will~
Since everyone apparently finds me suspicious, I can say that my suspicion right now is on GmK and Priz. GmK because of his posts, and Priz for trying to throw me under the bus.
 

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nitasu987 Only maf can be 'thrown under the bus'. I was trying to get you to think for yourself but now you're claiming that I am 'bussing' you.

Slip?

Yeah probably. I've only heard 'thrown under the bus' on Survivor lol so I didn't quite use it correctly, sorry. I'm only suspicious of you because I'm just getting that vibe, so it's probably nothing, right?
 

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To be honest, this recent power clash and all these rules and arguments about what town should do/shouldn't do is really shutting me down from this game. Feels mostly irrevelant.

However, Nitasu's blatant bandwagoning has put a red flag in my brain, as from what I've experienced as mafia in the last game I played that's the exact kind of behavior we shouldn't be having. We need free-thinkers to keep a mafia victory away.

If nitasu is lynched today and turns up innocent, our good power roles can get to work as his words suddenly mean a bit more.

vote Nitasu987
 

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To be honest, this recent power clash and all these rules and arguments about what town should do/shouldn't do is really shutting me down from this game. Feels mostly irrevelant.

However, Nitasu's blatant bandwagoning has put a red flag in my brain, as from what I've experienced as mafia in the last game I played that's the exact kind of behavior we shouldn't be having. We need free-thinkers to keep a mafia victory away.

If nitasu is lynched today and turns up innocent, our good power roles can get to work as his words suddenly mean a bit more.

vote Nitasu987

The only reason I'm bandwagoning is because everyone else is. And I haven't even VOTED yet. Nothing's set in stone, and I can change my mind at any point. I was only saying what I thought, and coincidentally as it may be It's what everyone else thinks too, and I had these suspicions from the beginning.
 

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To be honest, this recent power clash and all these rules and arguments about what town should do/shouldn't do is really shutting me down from this game. Feels mostly irrevelant.
This. Sorry for not posting much, but I really have nothing to add when conversation to find mafia is grasping at straws.
^ Same. I think we should all sit down and get to the main topic instead of discussion that goes around in circles.
 
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