Republic - Completed

[Mooglie]

Yes but they werent going to go autocracy so that obviously changed when I managed to get myself into the council. At that point I knew that if I managed autocracy it would be claim or lose. The fact that Ender murdered an innocent (who was the doctor) only added to my plan since town now needs me even more.

so what was the original plan of action following the 5 townie council

 

[Nottykitten]

Even more evidence to support my claim is how even Hunter called me out in the council chat about how I was arguing for autocracy and wasn't worried Ender was the Revo at all, which is obviously since I am the Revo.

so what was the original plan of action following the 5 townie council

Take the 1/5 chance or use my superior reads to get the dictator. If not id of simply gotten the dictator once they'd become known (or leave it to the Mafia that night)

 

[Infected_alien8_]

We have about 24 hours left btw

 

[Faliara]

Then why are you arguing I wouldnt claim since Mafia would kill me when THEY CANT

im not done reading yet and just saw this point, but you’re only immune if not occupied during the night
as in, if you’re not doing anything
you’re not immune if you kill endy

 

[Mooglie]

im not done reading yet and just saw this point, but you’re only immune if not occupied during the night
as in, if you’re not doing anything
you’re not immune if you kill endy

occupied = being subpoenad/being a representative in a subpoena/when two of the mafia carry out a night kill

priz rated a post where i said this agree!

 

[Mooglie]

99% sure occupied refers to being subpoenad/being a representative who is subpoenaing someone/when mafia have to sacrifice action to kill someone

this one

 

[Nottykitten]

im not done reading yet and just saw this point, but you’re only immune if not occupied during the night
as in, if you’re not doing anything
you’re not immune if you kill endy

Occupied means all people who are in court

 

[TheWeakGuy48_]

tbh I'm pretty sure Danni is maf and is looking to kill the Rev (Notty), because at this point in the game it looks like Rev is the biggest threat to the mafia (aka they don't won't her to steal the win and the only way to get rid of her is to lynch her so they want to lynch her).

 

[Sploorky]

What are you saying here? Sounds like youre saying I'm not Mafia because the 'real' revo would try to snipe a Mafia and clearly in that scenario im fake claiming which would make me a guarantreed target for the revo yet you say the revo would try to snipe a Mafia instead of me?

Assume: You're mafia, real rev is going to make a kill tonight

If the rev kills you, that is 5-6 mafia remaining

If the rev kills a 'random' who turns out to be mafia and the town decides to lynch you, that is 4-5 mafia remaining

It's not a foolproof situation but that's the idea

 

[Nottykitten]

Assume: You're mafia, real rev is going to make a kill tonight

If the rev kills you, that is 5-6 mafia remaining

If the rev kills a 'random' who turns out to be mafia and the town decides to lynch you, that is 4-5 mafia remaining

It's not a foolproof situation but that's the idea

Oh I get it now.

But riddle me this. If the town decides now to not lynch me then theres two scenarios:

A) I'm the Revo and I help the town for now since I cant let Maf win

B) I'm Mafia and Revo kills me tonight since town has decided to not lynch me and Id be a guaranteed Maf hit for the town.

(Spoiler alert its scenario one) but wouldnt both of these be favourable for the town?

 

[Sploorky]

Oh I get it now.

But riddle me this. If the town decides now to not lynch me then theres two scenarios:

A) I'm the Revo and I help the town for now since I cant let Maf win

B) I'm Mafia and Revo kills me tonight since town has decided to not lynch me and Id be a guaranteed Maf hit for the town.

(Spoiler alert its scenario one) but wouldnt both of these be favourable for the town?

That is true, I suppose in scenario B if the town does not lynch you it would force the rev to kill you eventually. I think the underlying issue behind what you're saying is that we don't have as surefire a lynch as you.

By the way I'm going to unelect and cast some new votes

elect: Faliara, Aqua, Nottykitten, HKCaper

First two I think are the best uncc'd townies to have on the counsel (I put aqua instead of ooglie because I think ooglie might flip to an autocracy which I think is bad) and the last two are people I'd be fine lynching

 

[Infected_alien8_]

We should massclaim and go autocracy <3

 

[Mooglie]

elect: Faliara, Aqua, Nottykitten, HKCaper

First two I think are the best uncc'd townies to have on the counsel (I put aqua instead of ooglie because I think ooglie might flip to an autocracy which I think is bad) and the last two are people I'd be fine lynching

what
if you think notty and hk are mafia theyre just gonna force an autocracy

 

[Sploorky]

We should massclaim and go autocracy <3

And when the dictator dies and we are forced into working with a sub-optimal council? We don't want a council of three people, that's awful

 

[Nottykitten]

And when the dictator dies and we are forced into working with a sub-optimal council? We don't want a council of three people, that's awful

Name me 1 difference between a council of 4 and one of 3. Either way you can only put in 1 suspicious person since 2 can force autocracy

 

[Sploorky]

what
if you think notty and hk are mafia theyre just gonna force an autocracy

Oh fuck I forgot that they have to comply to the subpoena

unelect

Which uncc'd townies supports democracy? Please respond if yes and you want to be on the council

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Oh fuck I forgot that they have to comply to the subpoena

unelect

Which uncc'd townies supports democracy? Please respond if yes and you want to be on the council

I do!

 

[Mooglie]

Oh fuck I forgot that they have to comply to the subpoena

unelect

Which uncc'd townies supports democracy? Please respond if yes and you want to be on the council

i mean if you want to go democracy ender really needs to be on council so notty doesnt murder him

 

[Sploorky]

Name me 1 difference between a council of 4 and one of 3. Either way you can only put in 1 suspicious person since 2 can force autocracy

We're not one step closer to losing the game to the Rev with a council of 4.

We can exclude the suspicious person from the subpoena in a council of 4(not extremely useful but it has fringe cases).

Maybe more I'm not thinking of

 

[LISTINGS09]

That is true, I suppose in scenario B if the town does not lynch you it would force the rev to kill you eventually. I think the underlying issue behind what you're saying is that we don't have as surefire a lynch as you.

By the way I'm going to unelect and cast some new votes

elect: Faliara, Aqua, Nottykitten, HKCaper

First two I think are the best uncc'd townies to have on the counsel (I put aqua instead of ooglie because I think ooglie might flip to an autocracy which I think is bad) and the last two are people I'd be fine lynching

We'll need the majority vote if we're going demo. Can you count on Notty/HK to not vote auto?

What are you doing?

 

[Scrable]

So... Don't mind me, I just wanted to vote. But the last two pages completely threw me off.


elect: Faliara, Aqua, Nottykitten, Danni

I base this on my gut feeling.
Faliara because uncc'd townie, Aqua and Notty, because they somehow developed a pretty specific dynamic between each other, can't really explain it but it somehow seems fake to me... I'm really confused with these two
....Danni, uncertain honestly. He does seem to act as always, so I'd trust him a bit more.


And are we really back at this dem vs aut? You know, this will be the second toppling and afterwards (the dictator is guaranteed to die) we will be left with 3 council members to elect. Even now there is only one slot left for potential mafia...


I hope my post had been as useless as ever

 

[Sploorky]

I do!

Really validating your subversive claim

 

[Mooglie]

So... Don't mind me, I just wanted to vote. But the last two pages completely threw me off.


elect: Faliara, Aqua, Nottykitten, Danni

I base this on my gut feeling.
Faliara because uncc'd townie, Aqua and Notty, because they somehow developed a pretty specific dynamic between each other, can't really explain it but it somehow seems fake to me... I'm really confused with these two
....Danni, uncertain honestly. He does seem to act as always, so I'd trust him a bit more.


And are we really back at this dem vs aut? You know, this will be the second toppling and afterwards (the dictator is guaranteed to die) we will be left with 3 council members to elect. Even now there is only one slot left for potential mafia...


I hope my post had been as useless as ever

so have you read things or not

the first paragraph implies you have, but saying that there is a fake argument between an uncc townie and an uncc scum is a bit :thinking:

 

[Infected_alien8_]

So... Don't mind me, I just wanted to vote. But the last two pages completely threw me off.


elect: Faliara, Aqua, Nottykitten, Danni

I base this on my gut feeling.
Faliara because uncc'd townie, Aqua and Notty, because they somehow developed a pretty specific dynamic between each other, can't really explain it but it somehow seems fake to me... I'm really confused with these two
....Danni, uncertain honestly. He does seem to act as always, so I'd trust him a bit more.

Why are you electing 3 people you don't trust (and one is an uncc PR btw so your view of notty/aqua being 'fake' is a bit weird)

And are we really back at this dem vs aut? You know, this will be the second toppling and afterwards (the dictator is guaranteed to die) we will be left with 3 council members to elect. Even now there is only one slot left for potential mafia...

And with 3 council members it will also be one slot left

 

[Sploorky]

We'll need the majority vote if we're going demo. Can you count on Notty/HK to not vote auto?

What are you doing?

Yea I just came back from work and I think I blocked out that three people need to actively work together and agree in order to do a democracy, that's my bad

elect: Faliara, Aqua, Enderfive, Nottykitten

Still gonna go with the notty vote for the time being