Retaking Rochester (Concluded)

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If you understood or read the role assignments that the only person who can kill is Deko Rivell, a vigilante, which is town sided. Mafia can't kill anyone and both sides have investigators. Basically everyone's mini role as a whole is to discuss stuff and lynch who we think is "scummy", which is also subjective based on your role/side.
Correct me if im wrong bu im pretty sure mafia always gets an auto kill at night even if they dont have a specific player who has the ability to kill someone once a night. I mean thats the reason they have mafia chat right?
 

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Correct me if im wrong bu im pretty sure mafia always gets an auto kill at night even if they dont have a specific player who has the ability to kill someone once a night. I mean thats the reason they have mafia chat right?
It wasn't shown on the roles thing @Jivvi showed us though.. "Does not participate in Mafia Meetings" For the traitors that is...
 

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If you understood or read the role assignments that the only person who can kill is Deko Rivell, a vigilante, which is town sided. Mafia can't kill anyone and both sides have investigators. Basically everyone's mini role as a whole is to discuss stuff and lynch who we think is "scummy", which is also subjective based on your role/side.
I probably didn't state this clearly enough, but the way the mafia works is this:

Contact and Hooker share a night talk
Quack and Yakuza share a night chat, and also decide on a kill
 

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So for those that are following we /may/ have two masons in play, as neither killing role is going to waste a kill and actually pulled out a kill.

As far as I know the mafia in play are not immune to a mafia kill so the possibility is that two traitors were hit in the night and one was converted, at the most.

You can argue that perhaps neither attempted a kill.
In that case it would boil down to only three people having info, should the mason have not attempted convert then two people.

At this point there are at most five people with knowledge in one way or the other.

The mason knows who was a traitor as the traitor is now a mason or the mason knows who is a power role as he could not convert them.

The two investigators know who one person is respectively.

The vigilante and mafia know who are traitors definitively.
(That is if the mason conversion happens before a killing would happen, if a person becomes a mason after a possible kill-save from being a traitor then one of the would be victims could be mason at this point)

Which means that two townies and three mafia know who is who to some degree. 1/3 of the players have information.

At this time a random lynch really isn't so random, neither side has really anything to lose as far as lynching an ally.

Should a town pr be lynched the assistant will assume that role.
Should a mafia pr or a mafia be lynched the ally that shares a night chat will still have pertinent information.

Should a traitor be lynched, well lets be honest, as a traitor, that role is insignificant what with the yakuza switching players back to traitors and the mason taking them back.
 

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So for those that are following we /may/ have two masons in play, as neither killing role is going to waste a kill and actually pulled out a kill.

As far as I know the mafia in play are not immune to a mafia kill so the possibility is that two traitors were hit in the night and one was converted, at the most.

You can argue that perhaps neither attempted a kill.
In that case it would boil down to only three people having info, should the mason have not attempted convert then two people.

At this point there are at most five people with knowledge in one way or the other.

The mason knows who was a traitor as the traitor is now a mason or the mason knows who is a power role as he could not convert them.

The two investigators know who one person is respectively.

The vigilante and mafia know who are traitors definitively.
(That is if the mason conversion happens before a killing would happen, if a person becomes a mason after a possible kill-save from being a traitor then one of the would be victims could be mason at this point)

Which means that two townies and three mafia know who is who to some degree. 1/3 of the players have information.

At this time a random lynch really isn't so random, neither side has really anything to lose as far as lynching an ally.

Should a town pr be lynched the assistant will assume that role.
Should a mafia pr or a mafia be lynched the ally that shares a night chat will still have pertinent information.

Should a traitor be lynched, well lets be honest, as a traitor, that role is insignificant what with the yakuza switching players back to traitors and the mason taking them back.
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Too much theories for me to digest information this morning.

So you're saying that we should lynch on this day? If it is not as random as it seems, I still don't think we could reach on 8 votes on the same person since we won't have solid proof in our hands. Nonetheless, I want to see what others think.
 

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Okay, really now? This thread has gone far too quiet. This game revolves around speaking and if we don't speak, we'll never get anything done! At this point it's honestly tempting to just randomly vote and see where that gets us. And let's face it, it won't get us anywhere we need to be. Instead, let's try a little something: who is your FoS, and what evidence do you have against them? Reread the thread. Quote things. Put in theories and contemplations. We need discussion, and it's not going to come out of nowhere.
 

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Okay, really now? This thread has gone far too quiet. This game revolves around speaking and if we don't speak, we'll never get anything done! At this point it's honestly tempting to just randomly vote and see where that gets us. And let's face it, it won't get us anywhere we need to be. Instead, let's try a little something: who is your FoS, and what evidence do you have against them? Reread the thread. Quote things. Put in theories and contemplations. We need discussion, and it's not going to come out of nowhere.
I'm honestly not sure who to quote/lynch/etc. because everyone is being so neutral "we could no lynch, but that would be bad. We could lynch, but we might kill someone important".
 

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I'm honestly not sure who to quote/lynch/etc. because everyone is being so neutral "we could no lynch, but that would be bad. We could lynch, but we might kill someone important".
But still, it's not helping that no one is talking. It's kind of getting at me that there's not a new page at least once a day. There needs to be some discussion going on, but it seems as if there's only one post every three hours instead of every three minutes. Staying silent and not coming to a decision is just going to give us a deadline and then we'll panic and we really will lynch the wrong person. If no one's talking, we'll never get anywhere.
 

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But still, it's not helping that no one is talking. It's kind of getting at me that there's not a new page at least once a day. There needs to be some discussion going on, but it seems as if there's only one post every three hours instead of every three minutes. Staying silent and not coming to a decision is just going to give us a deadline and then we'll panic and we really will lynch the wrong person. If no one's talking, we'll never get anywhere.
I know I know. :/

Well, here is a question for everyone to answer:

If you had to pick one person to be suspicious, who would it be?:

For me I'd just say Midnight because she was good at keeping away in the other mafia game until it mattered, and she's giving neutral responses which don't really answer much. And I need to pick someone to be suspicious, sorry Midnight!
 
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