Retaking Rochester (Concluded)

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Alright I'll just come out and say it. Yes I am the illusionist. However before you just all vote me to death I'd like to point something out. There is currently 5 Mafia and 5 Town which means if you lynch me Mafia then kills a townie and has the advantage. Since it'll be 9 people left and mafia will probs have 5 while town will have 4 mafia will slowly pick you guys off one by one until they win. So I'm offering a game changing decision here. How about you don't lynch me right now and I make it so that town has a chance of winning. I'm basically offering an alliance with town that'll in the end kill me. But going farther into the game is worth it to me. Go ahead think it out before someone kills me with a lynch.
 

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I must admit, that is a good deal. Whatever happens to the next days when everyone's role is basically known now? It's actually going to be 4 vs 5 or 3 vs 5, but then if we do have the majority right now especially with the Illusionist by our side, it's basically 6 town vs 5 mafia, so I could say we could be the majority for once again if we take this opportunity. Mad11gab8 raxo2222 midnightgirl24 std1997
 

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I must admit, that is a good deal. Whatever happens to the next days when everyone's role is basically known now? It's actually going to be 4 vs 5 or 3 vs 5, but then if we do have the majority right now especially with the Illusionist by our side, it's basically 6 town vs 5 mafia, so I could say we could be the majority for once again if we take this opportunity. Mad11gab8 raxo2222 midnightgirl24 std1997
I'm kind of leaning toward taking that deal.
 

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I'm kind of leaning toward taking that deal.
Also if you guys haven't noticed, the Mafia had been actually planning their win strategy after all.
Once the illusionist is dead if we lynch then the masons will convert who is left.
But in the night one mason should be converted because the remaining traitor will be converted to mason and one role killed, preferably one mason that wont be converted to try and get the headmason. If the traitor gets lynched in this daytime thing then the same process, turning a mason traitor targeting a mason to kill the conversion back powers.
Also storm886 you might want to join us since you would be converted to our side once this plan goes accordingly.
 

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Since we know that raxo2222 can convert storm to our side, right now it is our chance to pick a person lynch. I'm kind of stepping on a cliff right now, but I think we can pull this out correctly. (sorry for the double
Well that's such a nice ploy right thar. Your saying raxo can convert? Didn't you just screw the pooch so to say?
If hes the headmason now then the mafia only needs to kill him tonight or maybe that's what you want and madgab is the head mason? either way ill find out tonight. we know the doctor and have been role blocking her since night one, a lucky investigation if I do say so myself. The mafia isn't going to target erik so even if he stays alive I'd rather ask storm886 to willingly sacrifice himself for the greater good of the mafia.
 

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Well that's such a nice ploy right thar. Your saying raxo can convert? Didn't you just screw the pooch so to say?
If hes the headmason now then the mafia only needs to kill him tonight or maybe that's what you want and madgab is the head mason? either way ill find out tonight. we know the doctor and have been role blocking her since night one, a lucky investigation if I do say so myself. The mafia isn't going to target erik so even if he stays alive I'd rather ask storm886 to willingly sacrifice himself for the greater good of the mafia.
Storm wants to be on the winning side though, yes?
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The winning team? Well that would either be the mafia or the illusionist.
Considering how tonight either the doctor is being killed(theres no point shes getting roleblocked) or going to kill one of the masons and convert one of the masons that puts mafia in the lead, given the mafia targets and kills the appropriate mason killing the headmason will lead to no more conversions so really its either mad11gab8 or raxo2222 to end the mason conversions.

Also given that sephh is no fool and both raxo and seph wanted to turn on madgab it shows they were attemping to create a 'divide' between them getting the mafia to not target her attempting to convert her during the night(please dont you cant convert the headmason) and not target her for a kill, but was forced to reveal her role when votes started to stack up. Which would kill the town because no more masons. So I devise that madgab should be the target, however at this time its still up in the air and their choice either way they need to convert sephh because my investigation showed he was a regular mason, not the headmason. It could also show that raxo is the headmason as hes been the one choosing to reveal masonry from the start a riske move that could make him a target but divert targets because a headmason wouldnt out themselves would they? Choices choices.

So why should storm betray his team when hes only going to get converted back after we kill this headmason buisness?

Taking the illusionists deal woul be the death of everyone as the votes after this night will boil down to the illusionist becoming that number needed for a lynch, no daytime lynch, no illusionist kill, no win for town.
 

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The winning team? Well that would either be the mafia or the illusionist.
Considering how tonight either the doctor is being killed(theres no point shes getting roleblocked) or going to kill one of the masons and convert one of the masons that puts mafia in the lead, given the mafia targets and kills the appropriate mason killing the headmason will lead to no more conversions so really its either mad11gab8 or raxo2222 to end the mason conversions.

Also given that sephh is no fool and both raxo and seph wanted to turn on madgab it shows they were attemping to create a 'divide' between them getting the mafia to not target her attempting to convert her during the night(please dont you cant convert the headmason) and not target her for a kill, but was forced to reveal her role when votes started to stack up. Which would kill the town because no more masons. So I devise that madgab should be the target, however at this time its still up in the air and their choice either way they need to convert sephh because my investigation showed he was a regular mason, not the headmason. It could also show that raxo is the headmason as hes been the one choosing to reveal masonry from the start a riske move that could make him a target but divert targets because a headmason wouldnt out themselves would they? Choices choices.

So why should storm betray his team when hes only going to get converted back after we kill this headmason buisness?

Taking the illusionists deal woul be the death of everyone as the votes after this night will boil down to the illusionist becoming that number needed for a lynch, no daytime lynch, no illusionist kill, no win for town.
That's some really complicated stuff but I think you have forgotten a couple of stuff that could change the plans you're hoping to happen. Imo I'd actually prefer the Illusionist winning than the Mafia but there's still a chance for town to win.
 

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The winning team? Well that would either be the mafia or the illusionist.
Considering how tonight either the doctor is being killed(theres no point shes getting roleblocked) or going to kill one of the masons and convert one of the masons that puts mafia in the lead, given the mafia targets and kills the appropriate mason killing the headmason will lead to no more conversions so really its either mad11gab8 or raxo2222 to end the mason conversions.

Also given that sephh is no fool and both raxo and seph wanted to turn on madgab it shows they were attemping to create a 'divide' between them getting the mafia to not target her attempting to convert her during the night(please dont you cant convert the headmason) and not target her for a kill, but was forced to reveal her role when votes started to stack up. Which would kill the town because no more masons. So I devise that madgab should be the target, however at this time its still up in the air and their choice either way they need to convert sephh because my investigation showed he was a regular mason, not the headmason. It could also show that raxo is the headmason as hes been the one choosing to reveal masonry from the start a riske move that could make him a target but divert targets because a headmason wouldnt out themselves would they? Choices choices.

So why should storm betray his team when hes only going to get converted back after we kill this headmason buisness?

Taking the illusionists deal woul be the death of everyone as the votes after this night will boil down to the illusionist becoming that number needed for a lynch, no daytime lynch, no illusionist kill, no win for town.
2 problems with ur strategy currently. First of all I'm just going to straight out vote for the hooker so we can kill her and doctor does what they need to do while if you guys decided to shoot me while using hooker it won't work. Second of all you gotta remember the bullet vests. Since if town is agreeing with me siding with them we have advantage during day but during you niht you guys get a kill which basically means bullet vests would work. Plus headmason recruits every night while yakuza every 2 nights so we can lynch him next day. The hooker is pikmon so
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See thats the point and fun of this, While you might argue about a traitor who is on my team going over to the town side tonight have you ever thought is that if you willingly give up the headmason then you won't become a target, but that you will simply instead join the true and rightful winning side.

Not only will you be a part of the winning team but you get to be a part of a mafia winning team, the team that in a reverse game as this that would be essentially the rightous. Unless your wishing to skew your view, the real villans are those that forced you traitors, wonderful compatriots of ours to become masons, forcing you into a new lifestyle where you had no choice but to betray those you once loved, the yakuza offering you a kind welcome a day after welcoming you back where your true life leads to back on the mafia world.

Now, dont you, who have been converted wish to become part of those you once were? The rightful! with nearly a flawless headcount in our future, only having lost two of our comrade traitors. I have pushed hard for you being masons not to see you as an enemy, but as a future comrade. Unless you wish to give into the deceit that is the illusionist's plot.
 
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See thats the point and fun of this, While you might argue about a traitor who is on my team going over to the town side tonight have you ever thought is that if you willingly give up the headmason then you won't become a target, but that you will simply instead join the true and rightful winning side.

Not only will you be a part of the winning team but you get to be a part of a mafia winning team, the team that in a reverse game as this that would be essentially the rightous. Unless your wishing to skew your view, the real villans are those that forced you traitors, wonderful compatriots of ours to become masons, forcing you into a new lifestyle where you had no choice but to betray those you once loved, the yakuza offering you a kind welcome a day after welcoming you back where your true life leads to back on the mafia world.

Now, dont you, who have been converted wish to become part of those you once were? The rightful! with nearly a flawless headcount in our future, only having lost two of our comrade traitors. I have pushed hard for you being masons not to see you as an enemy, but as a future comrade. Unless you wish to give into the deceit that is the illusionist's plot.
They've gone to the dark side Lee_Scar, there's no getting them back, sacrifices must be made.
 
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