REVIVAL OF MAFIA: Dire Streets {(OVER: FENCE WIN + town)}

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For how suspicious geek seems to people she isn't really defending herself. I still stand by my reasoning that I think she is innocent. If she was a power role (town/anti town) she would (in my opinion) fight to survive more even going as far as a role claim.

I think we're barking up the wrong tree here
 

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And by the way if webpaige doesn't become active will they be inactive killed?

I also think it's safe to assume web is a townie based on how quickly the night went. There is no way they could be a power role but still be inactive here
I don't know if that counts as gaming the system or not, and I always get uncomfortable when things start to go toward that territory. But usually that only happens when Hunter is around so I think we'll be ok if we don't push it.

The people I feel are most inclined to be town, in descending order:
1) Vatumok. He always gives me really town vibes and he's a pretty good leader from what I can tell.
2) Duffie. She just feels super innocent. It might be because of what happened in the Masquerade, but I feel I can trust her.
3) Dessern. No strong gut feeling, but the way he talks about his points feels decidedly town.

No strong reads on anyone else (except Geek, who I'm just keeping an eye on)
 
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For the record I am not currently convinced enough to vote geekenstein, noobiness is an adequate excuse at this point for my tastes. What I thought would be pretty good to do would be to have a cop investigate Geek (which I don't think is too absurd) than try and see who if we can draw some hidden alliances out. However now it's too hot even if Geek is scum. I would wager at least one of the people currently voting is scum.
 

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I still think Geek is mafia but on the off chance she isn't and turns out to be Town, for some reason I have a feeling that Dessern is mafia and is trying to look innocent by defending her. Could be wrong of course but the way he said she's just using bad phrasing after she clearly contradicted herself and how sure he seems of her innocence seems suspicious to me. Or he could be the investigator I guess. Or mafia buddy trying to save her. I don't know, I just think it's a bit odd and worth mentioning. I know he's not the only one saying he thinks she's innocent but my gut tells me something fishy's going on with him for some reason \o/


My vote stays for now. Geekenstein do you have no defence?
 

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The implication that the town would fail miserably without her. And the fact that it's an appeal to emotion in a game of logic.








What?

It implies the town would fail without her? What makes you think that "good luck" is more then just courtesy? Where is anything other than "I'm going to be lynched" (which isn't even actually given) implied?
 

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"Good luck with the rest of the game." Is courtesy.
"Good luck [without me]." Implies that we need her.
Geek didn't say either of those though.
She said "good luck if the vote goes through"
To me that says if (probably in her opinion, at least at the time, when) she is lynched, she hopes the town does well.
I understand how those words could be meant to be malicious, but I don't understand how you can tell the difference. Text cannot inflect.
 

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Geek didn't say either of those though.
She said "good luck if the vote goes through"
To me that says if (probably in her opinion, at least at the time, when) she is lynched, she hopes the town does well.
I understand how those words could be meant to be malicious, but I don't understand how you can tell the difference. Text cannot inflect.
Her exact words were "Good luck if this vote goes through:)". I know her exact words weren't "Good luck without me." That's why I used [ ], to denote that while it is not exactly what was said, it clarifies meaning in the case of a missing, obscure or obsolete phrasing. In this case, it's the second purpose.

Maybe it's just me, but I've never heard anyone say "Good luck" like that and have a genuine wish attached. In or out of mafia.
Besides, if you understand where I'm coming from, why are we still talking about this? It's nothing more than a difference of opinion that can never be clarified. What I mean by that is, even if Geek comes out and says "Yeah I had a genuine wish that the town does well without me" we have no way of knowing she's not lying to save her skin.

Either way, it's an appeal to emotion and that is the part that makes it scummy.
 
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