Rick and Morty - The Non Canonical Mafia Game - Guess we're not getting to post 2000 :(

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We are not glib globs, we are trafiklorians or however the fuck you spell that. Me having to say my "glib glob" basically means "mah niggah" according to what google told me.

No idea about vat, know nothing about him or his role other than what has been said here, he was at least not in our night chat
ok yeah i get it now cool beans

what strikes me as odd is that out of all the people who didn't like inf's claim and were saying he needed to convince the doc to save him more, vatumok wasn't one of them and seemed pretty sure claire was more likely to be mafia than inf, so i'm curious as to how they both ended up dead. Obvious first conclusion to jump to is that vat didn't save inf so he died, and then there's 2 nightly kills that got vat and hkc (would be nice if we knew what the fuck a twitch streamer role did).

alternatively maybe there's a vig and they shot a town, but neither vat or hkc really seemed like good vig targets as far as i saw (feel free 2 debate that).

but imo the most likely scenario is that the 3 deaths were mafia kill, poisoner kill, and 3p kill; with maybe a vig lurking around.

i thought maybe there could have been a vig who thought inf was scummy so he got killed twice, but doctors don't usually work like that (not that we'd know bc aqua is telling us nothing about roles)
 

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alternatively maybe there's a vig and they shot a town, but neither vat or hkc really seemed like good vig targets as far as i saw (feel free 2 debate that).
Well, vat did have the lowest message count out of everyone. He was seriously lurking and therefore suspicious, I think that that would be enough reasoning for someone who wanted to kill a mafia to go through with it.
Also sorry, I forget, are vigilantes normally third party or town?

Bitch.
 

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Well Jolt and Iggish both have anti-galactix federation rolenames in which my opinion there's a large chance they're scum.
I'd personally mark Iggy and Jolt down as neutral/third party, Scary Terry doesn't really have any form of alignment towards the federation, and Noob Noob is sided with the Vindicators, that never really had any thing to do with the federation, but the Vindicators didn't really like Rick.

Guessing from the wiki, maybe Noob Noob is town sided with us, cause on http://rickandmorty.wikia.com/wiki/The_Vindicators it says:

Known Enemies:
Drunk Rick
While Noob Noob found Rick funny, I don't know if he liked him.
 

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Well Jolt and Iggish both have anti-galactix federation rolenames in which my opinion there's a large chance they're scum.
How is scary Terry connected with the galactic federation in the show? Let alone the fact that this game in non-canonical, scary Terry has 5 minutes of air time on the show and the federation isn't even mentioned. People are only suspicious of jolt because of an alleged janitor role, not the name or what the character says.

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not really sure what to think right now, but one explanation I need sorry:
Iggish why are you saying Bitch at the end of every message? if I remember correctly, that only started halfway through day 1 right (and not before)
the search function is your friend

it only took me ten seconds to check if you remember correctly and surprise, he's been saying it since his first post
 

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the search function is your friend

it only took me ten seconds to check if you remember correctly and surprise, he's been saying it since his first post
I found it, my bad
I was confused since I didn't realise that it was once every *second* post (and alas, there are a lot of posts early on where he only said it every other post, whereas he switched to saying it every post now I think?)
 

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not really sure what to think right now, but one explanation I need sorry:
Iggish why are you saying Bitch at the end of every message? if I remember correctly, that only started halfway through day 1 right (and not before)
the search function is your friend

it only took me ten seconds to check if you remember correctly and surprise, he's been saying it since his first post
Nah ender, I understand his question. He's asking why I only began saying it after every post. Prior to that, I was only saying it once every two posts as required by my loss condition. However, then I thought "Surely it'd be better to use it every post in case I forget to say it in one".
This system is working a lot easier for me and has already saved me a few times where I would've forgot to say it in my second post, and therefore lost. Also, as I'm not trying to hide it or keep it discreet, now I'm simply saying it at the end of the post, not hidden in plain sight in a paragraph of text like before.

(Also, when I say bitch in the post already, I tend not to say it down here as well as there is no need).
 

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I found it, my bad
I was confused since I didn't realise that it was once every *second* post (and alas, there are a lot of posts early on where he only said it every other post, whereas he switched to saying it every post now I think?)
Ugh never mind, just saw this post.
Well hopefully my post gives you a little more information.

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I would personally prefer if we could start a massclain
I was actually thinking more like a rolename massclaim however after thinking it would also out the PRs.
Well Jolt and Iggish both have anti-galactix federation rolenames in which my opinion there's a large chance they're scum.
Idk if this is any relevance, but it's not the first time TWG has mentioned names / tried to acquire names from other people.

Just a theory but maybe TWG has a name or role associated with terrorism like birdman. As a result, he would know that after the lynching of Arelic (a possible mafia buddy), that people would be more inclined to vote for names that may have links to the mafia etc.
Maybe as he has such a name, he is a lot more aware of the possible power of the name claim and lynching options depending on someone's name.

He suggested he wanted a mass claim but then clarified it to say a name claim. I'm not sure how this would've been beneficial to the town in any way, but beneficial to mafia, definitely.
Mafia would learn vanilla townie names and could so claim as that role. They could also learn the names of other townies and try to manipulate people into thinking that they could be anti-town due to their name.

Of course, TWG quickly withdrew this idea under the first hint of criticism and said that "however after thinking" that it would be a bad idea and expose PRs. I mean, he knows that this is a closed set-up so why ask something like that in the first place (obviously could've been an honest mistake but eh). He could've been hoping that people would just go along with it so he could get his useful info.

Ok, ok, I know I'm probably reading way too much into this but his attachment to names is curious. Of course, me being suspicious of him already is probably a big factor is this theory. I mean, previously in this game he's been lurking pretty hard and coupled with a gut feeling, he's very suspicious for me.
As a result, as I said, I'm probably reading to much into just these 3 quotes but ahh, it's kind of weird, he's not sitting right with me at all.

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Idk if this is any relevance, but it's not the first time TWG has mentioned names / tried to acquire names from other people.

Just a theory but maybe TWG has a name or role associated with terrorism like birdman. As a result, he would know that after the lynching of Arelic (a possible mafia buddy), that people would be more inclined to vote for names that may have links to the mafia etc.
Maybe as he has such a name, he is a lot more aware of the possible power of the name claim and lynching options depending on someone's name.

He suggested he wanted a mass claim but then clarified it to say a name claim. I'm not sure how this would've been beneficial to the town in any way, but beneficial to mafia, definitely.
Mafia would learn vanilla townie names and could so claim as that role. They could also learn the names of other townies and try to manipulate people into thinking that they could be anti-town due to their name.

Of course, TWG quickly withdrew this idea under the first hint of criticism and said that "however after thinking" that it would be a bad idea and expose PRs. I mean, he knows that this is a closed set-up so why ask something like that in the first place (obviously could've been an honest mistake but eh). He could've been hoping that people would just go along with it so he could get his useful info.

Ok, ok, I know I'm probably reading way too much into this but his attachment to names is curious. Of course, me being suspicious of him already is probably a big factor is this theory. I mean, previously in this game he's been lurking pretty hard and coupled with a gut feeling, he's very suspicious for me.
As a result, as I said, I'm probably reading to much into just these 3 quotes but ahh, it's kind of weird, he's not sitting right with me at all.

Bitch.
Our names, in my opinion, is the best indicator for who's scum and who's town. Someone with a name of a bad person = bad role, someone with a good name = someone with a good role.

Also if nobody claims who you've sent your message to (have they even spoken?) you should probably go ahead and tell us who you sent your message to
 

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More TWG speculation and conspiracy here.
I haven't said anything because I have litterary nothing to say, and people have already said my thougths.
I mean, I don't think that there is any argument to be heard that TWG isn't lurking. In the previous day, he had one of the lowest message counts out of anyone. However, this has changed pretty dramatically today.
I mean, if I have counted right, TWG has posted 21 messages in this mafia game, a whopping ten of these have been posted in day 2 which has only been going like a day, this inconsistency is staggering. In the previous day, he quantified inactivity and lurking by the post above. If there was nothing to say that entire day, then how did people post a whole 46 pages?? Surely there must've have been some input he could have provided.
tbh I think that Inf is the birdperson and is trying to convince us that arelic is maf/birdie. The first thing he said was that he was sure arelic was birdie because he visited her and got the bird flu. Inf didn't really claim what type of disease he had until arelic did, where I think that his plan was to lure out what type of disease. idk cant find any hat he quotes rn since mobile is birdshit.

Okay Im short on time right now, Ill make a better(and bigger) post when I get home
Another possible indicator of him being mafia is that he seemed to be on Arelic's side. This could also just be a coincidence but seriously, how many coincidences can you have before it gets suspicious.
Because in the show, Iggish' rolename is a fucking serial killer, and when 2 ppl die in the first night it usually means there is a serial killer. Like a vigiliant wouldn't randomly kill someone night 1 and it's too early for birdflu/poision to kill someone.
Also, this is before Arelic was lynched when there was literally no proof that names and roles corresponded to what faction you were. While Claire's death has shed a bit of light on this subject, it's still not conclusive.
Why was TWG so sure that there could be a correspondence between scummy sounding roles and what faction they were unless they are one themselves?

Actually, I think I am definitely suspicious enough of him to push for a lynch.
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Bitch.
 

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Our names, in my opinion, is the best indicator for who's scum and who's town. Someone with a name of a bad person = bad role, someone with a good name = someone with a good role.
But why were you so sure of this before there was any evidence. If you are mafia like I suspect then you could've conferred with your mafia buddies and then established this connection. Besides from that, there was nothing else to base this point off.
Say if you are a townie and have a very scummy sounding name and someone claims townie who also has a scummy sounding name. Now, you cannot be sure what faction they are. Like you, they could be town but with a scummy name or they could be mafia. There is no way to make this connection or to be sure . However, if you were able to reference your role name and compare it to others, you could be sure or at least reasonably sure.

Also, surely the best indicator of whether or not someone is town or mafia is if they're playing scummy and the evidence piled against them, not just a name.
Also if nobody claims who you've sent your message to (have they even spoken?) you should probably go ahead and tell us who you sent your message to
Yes, they have spoken. I will say that their name has between 4-6 letters, inclusive. No numbers. If I'm right, this narrows the possible number of people down by about half so when they tell the message, I will have more credibility and so won't just say "yup, that's it", where my legitimacy could be cast into doubt.

Bitch.
 

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Yes, they have spoken. I will say that their name has between 4-6 letters, inclusive. No numbers.
By no numbers, I mean that they have 4-6 letters, not including numbers. The person may well have numbers in their name.
The options are:
Hipman
Ooglie
Foggy
Jivvi
Vino
or
Hunter

I sent my message to one of these 6. Also, I should say that it is a very spoopy message.

Bitch.
 

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If there was nothing to say that entire day, then how did people post a whole 46 pages?

Bitch.
The reason: Inffy. He is probably spamming the deathchat right now.

Yes, they have spoken. I will say that their name has between 4-6 letters, inclusive. No numbers. If I'm right, this narrows the possible number of people down by about half so when they tell the message,

Bitch.
Hipman
Ooglie
Foggy
Jivvi
Vino
or
Hunter
Bitch.
Okay, so already excluded danni
 
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