SCP - Secure, Contain, Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Dess]

I've been suspecting the possibility you were also a cop for a little while now too. If I am going to believe the story your trying to sell where you are also a cop and one of us is paranoid then I need to know why you investigated caff.

I'm open to believe a paranoid cop isn't an impossibility especially given recent circumstances, however, I am extremely disturbed we just 'happened' to have investigated the same person. This bothers me and makes me think this is a mafia countering a claim to take out a cop rather than the possibility of two cops.

I investigated her for the same reason you did. She stuck out to me as a possible mafia sided person. There were only two people who were even relatively suspicious at all after Day 0 and she was the one the was the most suspicious to me.

I ended up defending her because I got no results back and there were also no deaths. I think there is somehow a way that she defended herself or was defended from all roles as it would be illogical to block a random person that hadn't added anything to the game in substantial amount such as myself.

 

[Hunter]

maybe mafia has a quack and it protected caf

 

[myusername22]

I investigated her for the same reason you did. She stuck out to me as a possible mafia sided person. There were only two people who were even relatively suspicious at all after Day 0 and she was the one the was the most suspicious to me.

I ended up defending her because I got no results back and there were also no deaths. I think there is somehow a way that she defended herself or was defended from all roles as it would be illogical to block a random person that hadn't added anything to the game in substantial amount such as myself.

This does not answer why she was suspicious

 

[Dess]

This does not answer why she was suspicious

She voted iggy with little to no viable evidence and was stuck on lynching him. It seemed scummy to me especially because he was proven and she kept a bit of an FoS on him. I just have to say that even now, you analyzing each and every part of my choice to investigate her seems a bit strange to me. Nobody did this with you, so why me?

 

[Hunter]

She voted iggy with little to no viable evidence and was stuck on lynching him. It seemed scummy to me especially because he was proven and she kept a bit of an FoS on him. I just have to say that even now, you analyzing each and every part of my choice to investigate her seems a bit strange to me. Nobody did this with you, so why me?

iggy wasn't proven, and myuser wasn't analyzed because there was no visible need
as in, you hadn't claimed to have a contradictory report

by the way, do either of you cops have a secondary goal/ability?

 

[myusername22]

thank you myuser now why is caff being unvoted?
your reasoning regarding the unvote has just been overturned by timdood's death
as he was indeed vanilla

Hunter either your confused or I'm missing whatever you were trying to say here entirely. I don't believe its too likely caff is mafia after the timdood thing. And regarding the death assuming you meant endersteve I'm unsure how he is really connected other than the fact he died so we know there is at least more than one vanilla.

 

[Hunter]

by the way, do either of you cops have a secondary goal/ability?

myusername22
Dessern5

 

[Nottykitten]

ok so now we have a death
and a possible "lazy" type cop (delayed reports)
let's not lynch between cop ccs, and have them both investigate another player
such as notty
was the report empty, or simply nonexistent, Dessern5

Why me? I feel as is my claim is pretty legit. I'd rather have them not waste their investigation. You seem like a way better target to investigate.

Vote Myusername22

 

[myusername22]

myusername22
Dessern5

I have no additional goals or abilities. Each night I investigate someone and I win when all threats to the town have been defeated

 

[Hunter]

• ender blue (dead) hot1
• jivvi o5/gov?/room?/shears
• iggy o5/?/hot1
• oak o5/room?/items(shared notty)
• dess cop! invcaff (?)
• myuser cop! invcaff (G)
• faliara ?/hot2
• notty items(shared oak)
• timdood blue?
• caff blue?/!guilty(Myu)

list of information we know
based on reports and claims made by players
have fun deciphering the format

 

[Hunter]

Why me? I feel as is my claim is pretty legit. I'd rather have them not waste their investigation. You seem like a way better target to investigate.

Vote Myusername22

yes, but there may be a situation that occurs if both cops investigate the same player
like, only one report is generated
and we would potentially confirm you as townsided itemgiver, and find possible conflicts in information gained

 

[Dess]

• ender blue (dead) hot1
• jivvi o5/gov?/room?/shears
• iggy o5/?/hot1
• oak o5/room?/items(shared notty)
• dess cop! invcaff (?)
• myuser cop! invcaff (G)
• faliara ?/hot2
• notty items(shared oak)
• timdood blue?
• caff blue?/!guilty(Myu)

list of information we know
based on reports and claims made by players
have fun deciphering the format

I literally have no idea what this mean.

But no, my onll 'goal' persay is to survive until all antitown threats are eliminated, at which point I win.

 

[Hunter]

But no, my onll 'goal' persay is to survive until all antitown threats are eliminated, at which point I win.

the way that's worded implies you don't win with the town, but share similar win conditions
not sure why that would be the case, unless we have multiple cop factions, or a "rogue unit" of sorts
like notty with the lie detecting a few games back

 

[CaffeinatedKitty]

Okay, I have no idea what happened there. As far as I know I have the exact same role Ender did, except maybe the dying-during-the-day thing. No clue what that was, really. Perhaps I was roleblocked or protected from all actions or something, heck if I know \O/

 

[Hunter]

just had a brilliant idea
have all night actions be directed to me, with a watcher (if we have one) watching
then we can have one player to verify that both of you did indeed investigate, or at least harmlessly visit
watcher would out self tomorrow with confirmation, with doc on me as the real cop wouldn't die, because the otehr cop would be immediately lynched due to obvious fraudery
the others seen visiting would have support for a later claim if needed, and with the doc on me mafia could also visit without being seen as mafia as the watcher wouldn't know who did what
even if mafia had a watcher, said watcher wouldn't know which player did what action!

 

[Hunter]

the ones who didn't visit would have to claim either vanilla or no night action if they didn't already have a claim

 

[Ltin]

Ohhhhhh kay then
Perhaps ender was some sort of a dies after x pages bleeder or something
More likely, theres some sort of a day kill.
I knew we should have waited for a cc. Now im sceptical of myuser, because the possibility that everyone was blocked last night fots in with no action.
At at this point, the conflicting cop claims are logical, as caf was super suspicious yesterday, who wouldnt investigate caff.
Im also supect of myuser because he claimed in the first place. I think he might have been trying to force a cc to out the real cop, and while bussing a maf at the same time, earning him extra credibility. Or counting on us thinking caff is a miller.
Looking for intial claim reasons now

 

[Hunter]

Ohhhhhh kay then
Perhaps ender was some sort of a dies after x pages bleeder or something
More likely, theres some sort of a day kill.
I knew we should have waited for a cc. Now im sceptical of myuser, because the possibility that everyone was blocked last night fots in with no action.
At at this point, the conflicting cop claims are logical, as caf was super suspicious yesterday, who wouldnt investigate caff.
Im also supect of myuser because he claimed in the first place. I think he might have been trying to force a cc to out the real cop, and while bussing a maf at the same time, earning him extra credibility. Or counting on us thinking caff is a miller.
Looking for intial claim reasons now

I actually outed myuser before he could claim, and that led to the original events at day start

 

[Nottykitten]

I have the feeling this is somehow a plan where Hunter is gonna blow up tonight and take any role that visited him with him into the grave. That would be terrible.

 

[Nottykitten]

Also I think Myuser could be a contact(Mafia cop) and investigated Caff. And when Myuser got guilty on Caff [because miller?]he thought that Caff was part of a second Mafia faction. And therefor Myuser could easely claim cop and get the towns trust. This is what I think might have happened.

 

[Hunter]

I have the feeling this is somehow a plan where Hunter is gonna blow up tonight and take any role that visited him with him into the grave. That would be terrible.

it doesn't have to be me who gets visited, just someone they all agree on

 

[Ltin]

are you a cop or investigative role
and, if so, did you use that ability on caff yesterday to get a result matching your suspicions

Right i think this was a setup.
Myuser was outed by hunter yes, but cop claiming on d1 without knowing how many mafia there are is usually a bad idea.
If myuser is actual cop, I blame hunter for wanting to out cop in the first place.

 

[Ltin]

Or myuser could have rolled with it (your question) knowing he would get results either way.
Current fos list(in order):
1.myuser
2.hunter

 

[Nottykitten]

Also just for everyone to note:


There was exactly 24 hours between the day starting and Ender dying. This seems like the action of a Mafia poisoner. Because well he gets poisoned during the night and drops dead 24 hours later. Seems logical.

 

[Hunter]

I'm starting to get a strong fos on Caff, she jumped on Iggy yesterday and now she's trying to use the fact there were no kills last night to have iggy lynched today. In my experience (both as town and as former mafia) The innocent townies who are analyzing night deaths in a closed setup return nothing (because there is rarely anything to logically deduce) but the mafia will sometimes make plans around the nights deaths and spin them in such a way to hopefully lynch someone. Unless it offers a strong statistical advantage or logical evidence, which this case does not, It is almost Always the person who's trying to make an argument off the nights deaths.

I really think maybe we should take a closer look at caffeinatedkitty

are you a cop or investigative role
and, if so, did you use that ability on caff yesterday to get a result matching your suspicionsa

Right i think this was a setup.
Myuser was outed by hunter yes, but cop claiming on d1 without knowing how many mafia there are is usually a bad idea.
If myuser is actual cop, I blame hunter for wanting to out cop in the first place.

he was telling cop so strongly and i picked up on it before this ended up like supernatural hotel did