SCP - Secure, Contain, Mafia [GAME OVER]

[Hunter]

While I am loathe to explain my role completely for fear of mafia taking advantage of the knowledge, I'd like to point out my various "spot-on predictions" regarding the other players in the game.
This has not been coincidence.
I have knowledge of another role's name, which has not yet been claimed, and would like the player(s?) having this role to claim immediately for the benefit of us all.

The role is called "The Rogue MTF Unit"

 

[Nottykitten]

Are you like a census? Like once during the game you can get a list of all roles in the game.

Also are you sure this person is alive? Maybe its one of the four dead people.

 

[Hunter]

Are you like a census? Like once during the game you can get a list of all roles in the game.

Also are you sure this person is alive? Maybe its one of the four dead people.

That's not how my role works, but it is similar, and this one is still alive

 

[Nottykitten]

Well this does explain why you wanted others to claim first. And since Samlem said he killed Fruit I think he could be that role.

And anyone that hasn't claimed yet(Erik, Chicken, Ltin, Coolio, Road, Samlem, Lee) please claim as soon as you can.

 

[GmK]

That's not how my role works, but it is similar, and this one is still alive

Oh boy you are a sneaky person, I have a pretty clear idea what your game is, but don't worry, I'll let you play that one out.

My focus remains with looking at iggy and the other unclaimed people. Thanks for that recap notty, will apply my logic deduction skills with the help of a beer^^

 

[cooliorules]

Well if Ltin and cooliorules could claim their role, it could be very usefull. As we plan on having everyone claim today it'd be best if you do it as soon as possible.

In a post of in earlier I said something like 'oh my god tim caught me out!!!!!1!!1! >_>'
He said something about me being blue townie.

OKAY HUNTER TIME FOR YOU TO CLAIM YAY.
(In all seriousness, I'm a blue. I may or may not have an extra little thing that I don't know about as of yet, but idk. I hope I do because otherwise that means that I'm a plain boring blue townie. Again. I think I'm cursed.)

 

[Nottykitten]

I didn't remember anything about Tim saying you were blue so I didn't get it x). But thanks for claiming.

 

[GmK]

This is a collection of thoughts upon looking at nottys overview list / random other thoughts

- OMO and Jivvi both have secondary powers as O5, whilst iggy states not to have any? This disrupts the pattern and seems unlikely
- iggy voted no on both Lee and std, two of the more inactive players. Lee was picked for the council randomly from all players, std was suggested by Jolt, so this can support the theory of iggy being mafia sided trying not to get his partners killed.

Thinking about it, I in my games also had people that were in a mafia group and did have secondary "town sided" roles. In this case it even makes sense, since iggy would not be overpowered, due to the two other O5 being able to swing the vote. The more I think about it the more likely it seems (from the current standpoint).

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- erik, chicken and Lee really shine by not being present at all. Yes, chicken posted a bit during this day, but not very detailed.
- it seems somewhat likely that there is a mafia amongst those three, if not two. It could be Lee if following the iggy theory, but who knows.

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- we still don't know who's the 4th person in nottys inn.
- the amount of vanilla townies (according to current claims and already dead players) seems somewhat high. So far we have two VT dead, and now three more claim to be VT!? I suspect at least one VT claim is fake. (of the current claims that is either raxo, tim or coolio, and I suspect we will get even more VT claims from others. You don't make a closed setup with such a high proportion of VT, that's simply off)
- is 77 really town sided? does him blocking std night one explain why there was a kill less / maybe no mafia kill? something seems off to me with the "blocks two roles" unprovable claim
- something is also off with road and samlen. as others have stated, samlen only appeared when people started pressing the inactivity thought, and samlen completely focuses on other people (and is responsible for killing xxxfruit), and road is WAY LESS outspoken than usually in mafia games.


this all isn't leading anywhere yet, so I'll stick with my iggy thought for being potentially hitting a spot (at least until he replies)

next up, a voting pattern analysis, if it leads anywhere.

 

[Jivvi]

Do remember, iggy's didn't actually vote on Lee, it just defaulted to a no

 

[GmK]

Allright, time for some really nonsense fun of pseudo-mafia-science.

Now, as a disclaimer, I am a big fan of voting patterns, and made a huge post about that in some other mafia game. The short version: Statistics can tell you the likelihood of who in a voting wagon is likely mafia. The problem we had this game so far is, that we had almost no proper voting wagons at all...

So I tried something else:

"Day Zero" we had a no lynch. Now, mafia members would logically support a lynch on D0 to get rid of some town member asap. My theory of silliness is, that no mafia member would really vote no-lynch on D0.

Day 1 we had a proper lynch of Caff, a VT. Mafia knows that Caff is not mafia, so they of course join the voting wagon.

Now let's look at both:

No-Lynch: Dessern5, Ooglie101, Endersteve5, Midnightgirl24, Iggy234, Raxo2222, Naoh, Faliara, Brownlee123, Nottykitten, Chicken23456789, Mad11Gab8, xXxFruitNinjaxXx, erik5456, std1997

Lynch Caff: Jivvi, Jivvi, Hunter27a1, Cooliorules, 77_is_the_best, xXxFruitninjaxXx, Old_Man_Oak_63, The road to ruin, Mad11Gab8, Midnightgirl24, Timdood3, std1997, erik5456, Ltin

If you now overlay those two voting wagons, take away those that voted no-lynch and those that didn't vote for lynching Caff, you get:

77_is_the_best
cooliorules
hunter27a1
jivvi
ltin
old_man_oak_63
the road to ruin
timdood3

So, by this absolutely fantastic method, I deducted that there are mafia amongst those people.

...

Well shit this was a useless 30min spent.

 

[Nottykitten]

Great work Watson!

But ofcourse you didn't do as great of a job as me, Sherlock Holmes, because you forgot something my dear Watson.
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Jivvi should be on that list twice!

 

[Nottykitten]

^ and by that he has twice the chance to be Mafia as anyone else on that list.

 

[GmK]

^ and by that he has twice the chance to be Mafia as anyone else on that list.

Well, to be honest:

Jivvi voted yes twice on the O5 targets, just for the fun of it? So far he hasn't explained any reasoning for those votes? Seems very careless for a town role
Jivvi used the shears on a cop claim, just for the fun of it?
Jivvi double-voted to get a person lynched, just for the fun of it? A person who was extremely far away from being actual scum, a lynch with the main argument "to find out more, even if it's likely a town person"

...

 

[Hunter]

Alright, I'll claim.
I'm the Senior Researcher
I started off with my default Level 3 Clearance Pass and the SCP-159 I mentioned earlier.
Basically, I have access to a "database" consisting of heavily redacted documents, which seems to be partial role names/abilities. There are more players than files, so I don't have all the roles included (which seems to be the case, as so far the files have been mostly town sided roles, including "Employee", ████ Vigilante, and Site Director), there are multiple people with the same role (like the blues, there are way too many blue claims), or both
One of the files is about The Rogue MTF Unit, and I know that is still alive because the second line is
Status: Active
and after that, it just says "LEVEL 4 CLEARANCE ONLY"
(which is why I wanted Ooglie's pass, as I could use that to see what the hell this Rogue Unit thing is)

 

[Nottykitten]

Do your files update every day or do you get new files every day?

 

[GmK]

Well, to be honest:

Jivvi voted yes twice on the O5 targets, just for the fun of it? So far he hasn't explained any reasoning for those votes? Seems very careless for a town role
Jivvi used the shears on a cop claim, just for the fun of it?
Jivvi double-voted to get a person lynched, just for the fun of it? A person who was extremely far away from being actual scum, a lynch with the main argument "to find out more, even if it's likely a town person"

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Jivvi - serious question, how much do you care about the game? Since if you're town that is an extremely reckless silly behavior. I'd assume no proper town member would act like this, which brings me to wonder how much town you actually are.

(I doubt you're mafia, since doublevoting would be very overpowered in that case, but maybe TP with an own win condition?)

 

[Nottykitten]

What if the "refined" shears are a delayed action on Dessern. And it not only killed dessern but also the person he used his action on the night after.

Ogod refining suddenly seems like such a bad idea.

 

[Timdood3]

Wow that seems like a very real possibility.

What is your last item and what setting did you refine it on?

 

[Nottykitten]

Wow that seems like a very real possibility.

What is your last item and what setting did you refine it on?

Actually I think the theory is good minus the last part.

Std got killed by the council.
Fruit got killed by Samlem.
Dessern got killed by delayed Shears.
Midnight got killed by Mafia.


Same item you have but then a red colour. And refined it on Very Fine.

 

[Timdood3]

Ah. In that case, you probably already plan on this, but you should probably give it to hunter.

 

[The Road to Ruin]

Rogue mtf? Rogue MTF? Theory, Rogue MTF stands for Male to Female?

In any case Now that hunter has revealed I suppose it's only fair that I reveal I am the Mortician! Basically I am a 3rd party role whose job is to prolong days. I win when I accumulate a certain amount of points which gain by people dying, I get extra points for mafia deaths. I don't know how many people need to fill my wonderful morgue before I win nor do I know exactly how many points I have at any given time (thanks a lot janitor!). I hope this explains why I've been in favor of a more prolonged day.

 

[Ltin]

No-Lynch: Dessern5, Ooglie101, Endersteve5, Midnightgirl24, Iggy234, Raxo2222, Naoh, Faliara, Brownlee123, Nottykitten, Chicken23456789, Mad11Gab8, xXxFruitNinjaxXx, erik5456, std1997

Lynch Caff: Jivvi, Jivvi, Hunter27a1, Cooliorules, 77_is_the_best, xXxFruitninjaxXx, Old_Man_Oak_63, The road to ruin, Mad11Gab8, Midnightgirl24, Timdood3, std1997, erik5456, Ltin

If you now overlay those two voting wagons, take away those that voted no-lynch and those that didn't vote for lynching Caff, you get:

77_is_the_best
cooliorules
hunter27a1
jivvi
ltin
old_man_oak_63
the road to ruin
timdood3

So, by this absolutely fantastic method, I deducted that there are mafia amongst those people.

...

Well shit this was a useless 30min spent.

Note I dont think I actually voted D0.
Anyway i guess ill claim. I tried to find something that would hide for a while, but came up blank.

I am the survivor pls no lynch.

 

[chicken23456789]

Okay. I just got home from school and have 220 messages to read... I'll post once I read them all.

 

[Hunter]

Rogue mtf? Rogue MTF? Theory, Rogue MTF stands for Male to Female?

In any case Now that hunter has revealed I suppose it's only fair that I reveal I am the Mortician! Basically I am a 3rd party role whose job is to prolong days. I win when I accumulate a certain amount of points which gain by people dying, I get extra points for mafia deaths. I don't know how many people need to fill my wonderful morgue before I win nor do I know exactly how many points I have at any given time (thanks a lot janitor!). I hope this explains why I've been in favor of a more prolonged day.

that isn't what mtf units are, check the scp wiki
also, if your roleclaim is true, then how do points work?
...oh, so you can't help us with the jan thing
dammit
also, hey, third party roleclaims
unvote
vote ltin
there is literally nothing bad that can happen with an ltin lynch.
I don't trust survivors, especially after what notty pulled with the masquerade game

 

[The Road to Ruin]

that isn't what mtf units are, check the scp wiki
also, if your roleclaim is true, then how do points work?
...oh, so you can't help us with the jan thing
dammit
also, hey, third party roleclaims
unvote
vote ltin
there is literally nothing bad that can happen with an ltin lynch.
I don't trust survivors, especially after what notty pulled with the masquerade game

Basically anytime anyone dies I get a certain amount of points, doesn't matter how they died; Night or day lynch or poison they all come to me. There is a hidden amount of points I need to reach to win. I don't know how much points I have or need. When someone is a mafia I get extra points from that.