Supernatural Hotel [Finished]
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GmK
International Man Of Cake
So you are saying you are able to kill people?
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@endersteve5 - that was a great writeup of what might have happened. And like you, I find it the most baffling thing to see that std got killed, since any killer (no matter if it was the mafia or one of the other theories you had) would try to target the experienced players, at least in my opinion.
If the aim was to confuse us, it seems to work xD
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I was wondering, @Alpha102 - next to the question Endersteve asked, could you clarify: Do the Mafia need to collectively decide on whom to kill, or do they select a single person that does the kill for them? I remember other games (e.g. Medieval Mafia) where the Main mafia dude was always the one doing the kill, or in Doomed Cruise it is the godfather doing the kill, etc.
Because if the mafia can select every night whoever of them they want to do the kill, it would be another huge coincidence that that person was blocked.
Lots of things to clarify right now, but that's okay!
-The faction that committed the murder of a person will not be revealed. This is due to the nature of this game, as revealing it could potentially show too much of what happened behind the scenes to everyone.
@endersteve5 - Items can not be used on the same night one gets them.
@cooliorules - The people in the Floor 7 Director room can still strike.
@GmK - The mafia decides the one person that will execute the kill. This is due to the nature of the game as well, as it's centered around night visits. It is not possible for a single person to use their power AND perform the mafiakill.
-The faction that committed the murder of a person will not be revealed. This is due to the nature of this game, as revealing it could potentially show too much of what happened behind the scenes to everyone.
@endersteve5 - Items can not be used on the same night one gets them.
@cooliorules - The people in the Floor 7 Director room can still strike.
@GmK - The mafia decides the one person that will execute the kill. This is due to the nature of the game as well, as it's centered around night visits. It is not possible for a single person to use their power AND perform the mafiakill.
Notme
Self-Aware Forum AI
Well, even if I could kill people I wouldn't do that on first night - no idea who is Mafia or Third PartySo you are saying you are able to kill people?
Soo... who is most suspicious now?
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
Well, that leaves Alien out of the picture, so I'm pretty sure that it was the mafia that performed the kill, other possibilities wouldn't make much sense to me.
Now I think it'd be best to focus on why the mafia would kill std. As I said earlier, there are two options that seem likely to me: either they did it to create confusion, or they knew std was a cop because the Stalker investigated him. I'd rather go with the confusion optiom, because again, the Stalker would be, in my opinion, more likely to target more experienced players. And, having been mafia myself bebef
Now I think it'd be best to focus on why the mafia would kill std. As I said earlier, there are two options that seem likely to me: either they did it to create confusion, or they knew std was a cop because the Stalker investigated him. I'd rather go with the confusion optiom, because again, the Stalker would be, in my opinion, more likely to target more experienced players. And, having been mafia myself bebef
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
...And, having been mafia myself before, I can see why they would've wanted to create confusion: it makes it less likely for us to get an idea of what's going on, making it also less likely for us to lynch them.
Currently I have no FoS on anyone, but the day is still young and not all have even posted so far. Raxo seems to be as he always is, so even if he does seem a bit weird to you, yeah, as I said, that's how he usually is (sorry raxo D:), and everyone else have not exhibited any out of the ordinary behaviour to me as well, so I'll just need to see what the rest of the day brings.
Currently I have no FoS on anyone, but the day is still young and not all have even posted so far. Raxo seems to be as he always is, so even if he does seem a bit weird to you, yeah, as I said, that's how he usually is (sorry raxo D:), and everyone else have not exhibited any out of the ordinary behaviour to me as well, so I'll just need to see what the rest of the day brings.
cooliorules
That Awkward Noodle
~JUST A DERP NOTICE~
I have events (engagement party and some other family things) this weekend, so I might be a little behind at times, but will do my best to stay up at the same pace.
I have to jump to bed, so when I get up for the meeting I will post my thoughts before I go out.
Sorry to start on such a bad note >-<
I have events (engagement party and some other family things) this weekend, so I might be a little behind at times, but will do my best to stay up at the same pace.
I have to jump to bed, so when I get up for the meeting I will post my thoughts before I go out.
Sorry to start on such a bad note >-<
Fiestaguy
The man with 8 fingers.
The problem is this will all be just easy if just a single name drops. From the disturbed sleeper, The cop, The crystal ball or whatever.
The "No casings and no bullet holes and no stabbing" can be ruled as distraction. There are MANY ways to kill someone without guns or knifes, So unless we got black ops ninjas in this hotel we can rule out nosebleed. Strangulation, Poisoning, Asphyxation, Cardiac arrest, He could've been killed by anything, So the sentence "No casings and no bullet holes and no stabbing" can be seen as a façade.
The "No casings and no bullet holes and no stabbing" can be ruled as distraction. There are MANY ways to kill someone without guns or knifes, So unless we got black ops ninjas in this hotel we can rule out nosebleed. Strangulation, Poisoning, Asphyxation, Cardiac arrest, He could've been killed by anything, So the sentence "No casings and no bullet holes and no stabbing" can be seen as a façade.
I know right!
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
I'm pretty sure the stalker investigates someone in the night and gets the result as soon as the day starts. That was the way it happened when I was stalker. And thus the mafia doesn't know the stalkers result yet and will only know when they talk tonight.
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
In that case, as I already stated, the only motive they could have had was confusion. And it's working well for them. For now.
@HypeBurst
Considering that there are only 3 kill roles in the game, with one of them being town and the other being dependent on whether or not he's getting visited, I don't think the roleblockers will get much suspicions out of blocking the same guys next night and then seeing if the kills are still low.
@Nottykitten
The claiming thing may work out. It's the best we could go on right now, anyway. If someone slips or posts something otherwise really suspicious, then we would obviously get them, but right now I do think that the Guest claim idea is the best one so far. The scum roles probably won't claim, giving us 4 (kinda) confirmed innocents and if we get more than 4 claims, then we can just lynch whoever seems the most suspicious of those claims, reducing our chances of lynching a town PR significantly.
Alright, finally got to posting a post here. I'm having a terrible headache now and it's killing me, so forgive me if I start mumbling anything silly.
I would first start with 77's questions:
Why was there only one kill this night?
From the roles, only the SWAT officer and the Mafia would be able to kill. The siren can as well, but considering how this is the first night it is extremely unlikely that the siren would get such a lucky hit. As for the SWAT officer, killing someone on the first night is never something advisable to do, considering how there barely was any conversation going on before the night. Thus it's pretty obvious - only the Mafia would perform such a kill.
Was std our real cop or the insane one?
No one knows ofc.
Why was std hit in the first place?
I'm already having a few likely scenarios in my head.
The first possibility would be to confuse us. Having an unpredictable killing pattern would leave our heads muddled and us groping in the dark. This might in turn cause std's death to be the main focus of the day's discussion, which will lower our chances of having a more fruitful discussion (I'll come to this part later.)
The second possibility would be a random shot in the dark. But why std specifically? Why not the more experienced players? This brings me to a scenario - the experienced players happen to be Mafia. I am not willing to point fingers around incase I end up influencing the rest of the townies, however such a scenario is possible. It might end up that the experienced players who usually pose a threat when they were townies back in the previous games are now in Mafia, thus they chose to take a shot in the dark and went for std.
However, it is Day 1, we can't make any rash assumptions from a kill on Day 0. What I suggest is moving on from discussing the reason behind std's death, since such a topic will not contribute to helping us find the anti-town. We can never make a definite conclusion about the reason behind std's death. What we can do however, is post tasteful questions as a starting point for the day.
Hence, I leave you with these questions (taken from a mixture of previous games because I suck at asking questions). Feel free to chip in with more questions, but bear in mind not ones that will stray us away from the main path:
How suspicious do you deem yourself to be?
What do you consider your strength(s)?
How experienced are you in Mafia games?
Who is suspicious to you/FOS?
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[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]How suspicious do you deem yourself to be?[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]Depending on the person. I personally think that I might seem suspicious, perhaps for trying to steer people away from the endless loop of discussing about std's death. [/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]What do you consider your strength(s)?[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]Possibly my deductions at who being anti-town. I might take quite a while to build up a case against a person, however I have noticed that my deductions were often correct in the end. [/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]What do you consider your weakness(es)?[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]At the same time, I am highly suspicious of everyone. Might be good or bad, but sometimes I mistake innocents as guilty and rashly make decisions. Another weakness would be being very hesitant. Sometimes I'm too afraid to make mistakes.[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]How experienced are you in Mafia games?[/BCOLOR]
Played 4-5 Mafia games. Still think I'm terrible at Mafia. In terms of role diversity I have taken in various games might consider myself fairly experienced.
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]Who is suspicious to you/FOS?[/BCOLOR]
Honestly, I really hate pointing fingers on Day 1 since it is too early to make assumptions yet. However, I would go for Ansoro. His post about std not being protected thus killed, while sounds highly logical, at the same time it raised a flag inside of me since it sounded far too (ugh how do I phrase this) clever. I'm really bad at explaining, but maybe you get the general idea. I'm not placing bets yet, however this is my current fos as of now, so sorry ansy :CC
I would first start with 77's questions:
Why was there only one kill this night?
From the roles, only the SWAT officer and the Mafia would be able to kill. The siren can as well, but considering how this is the first night it is extremely unlikely that the siren would get such a lucky hit. As for the SWAT officer, killing someone on the first night is never something advisable to do, considering how there barely was any conversation going on before the night. Thus it's pretty obvious - only the Mafia would perform such a kill.
Was std our real cop or the insane one?
No one knows ofc.
Why was std hit in the first place?
I'm already having a few likely scenarios in my head.
The first possibility would be to confuse us. Having an unpredictable killing pattern would leave our heads muddled and us groping in the dark. This might in turn cause std's death to be the main focus of the day's discussion, which will lower our chances of having a more fruitful discussion (I'll come to this part later.)
The second possibility would be a random shot in the dark. But why std specifically? Why not the more experienced players? This brings me to a scenario - the experienced players happen to be Mafia. I am not willing to point fingers around incase I end up influencing the rest of the townies, however such a scenario is possible. It might end up that the experienced players who usually pose a threat when they were townies back in the previous games are now in Mafia, thus they chose to take a shot in the dark and went for std.
However, it is Day 1, we can't make any rash assumptions from a kill on Day 0. What I suggest is moving on from discussing the reason behind std's death, since such a topic will not contribute to helping us find the anti-town. We can never make a definite conclusion about the reason behind std's death. What we can do however, is post tasteful questions as a starting point for the day.
Hence, I leave you with these questions (taken from a mixture of previous games because I suck at asking questions). Feel free to chip in with more questions, but bear in mind not ones that will stray us away from the main path:
How suspicious do you deem yourself to be?
What do you consider your strength(s)?
How experienced are you in Mafia games?
Who is suspicious to you/FOS?
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[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]How suspicious do you deem yourself to be?[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]Depending on the person. I personally think that I might seem suspicious, perhaps for trying to steer people away from the endless loop of discussing about std's death. [/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]What do you consider your strength(s)?[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]Possibly my deductions at who being anti-town. I might take quite a while to build up a case against a person, however I have noticed that my deductions were often correct in the end. [/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]What do you consider your weakness(es)?[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]At the same time, I am highly suspicious of everyone. Might be good or bad, but sometimes I mistake innocents as guilty and rashly make decisions. Another weakness would be being very hesitant. Sometimes I'm too afraid to make mistakes.[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]How experienced are you in Mafia games?[/BCOLOR]
Played 4-5 Mafia games. Still think I'm terrible at Mafia. In terms of role diversity I have taken in various games might consider myself fairly experienced.
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]Who is suspicious to you/FOS?[/BCOLOR]
Honestly, I really hate pointing fingers on Day 1 since it is too early to make assumptions yet. However, I would go for Ansoro. His post about std not being protected thus killed, while sounds highly logical, at the same time it raised a flag inside of me since it sounded far too (ugh how do I phrase this) clever. I'm really bad at explaining, but maybe you get the general idea. I'm not placing bets yet, however this is my current fos as of now, so sorry ansy :CC
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
How suspicious do you deem yourself to be?
I'm always very suspicious, but that's how I play =D
What do you consider your strength(s)?
I think I'm quite good at figuring out what to do.
How experienced are you in Mafia games?
Pretty experienced, have been playing since the second Mafia game.
Who is suspicious to you/FOS?
A very small suspicion on Raxo because of his post, and nothing else.
I'm always very suspicious, but that's how I play =D
What do you consider your strength(s)?
I think I'm quite good at figuring out what to do.
How experienced are you in Mafia games?
Pretty experienced, have been playing since the second Mafia game.
Who is suspicious to you/FOS?
A very small suspicion on Raxo because of his post, and nothing else.
GmK
International Man Of Cake
Since you play for the first time, just as a note: Any 'story' elements, like the above, are always purely cosmetic in a game of Mafia and have no relevance. That's why story is cursive and actual things in normal type.
Just saying before you focus on the type of death :D
Currently on my phone, will post when back at PC, some good posts just there!
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
How suspicious: I wouldn't say I'm extremely suspicious. Sure, someone might have some mixed or suspicious feelings about me already, but if I was reading my own posts, I wouldn't be suspicious to me.
Experience: Average. It's not my first game and I've picked up some things about the game here and there.
Strengths: I think my posts through and usually post everything I'm thinking about. This can lead to more discussion, which is always good. But, it can also prove to be my downfall, depending on how acceptable my ideas can be to the crowd.
FoS: None yet, the game is just starting out!
Experience: Average. It's not my first game and I've picked up some things about the game here and there.
Strengths: I think my posts through and usually post everything I'm thinking about. This can lead to more discussion, which is always good. But, it can also prove to be my downfall, depending on how acceptable my ideas can be to the crowd.
FoS: None yet, the game is just starting out!
Sploorky
Member
How suspicious do you deem yourself to be? I'm always suspicious, but I try to change how I play each game so it isn't obvious what side I am on, so I'm not sure.
What do you consider your strength(s)? People think I'm good at the game.
What do you consider your weakness(es)? People think I'm good at the game.
How experienced are you in Mafia games? Pretty experienced in forum/irc mafia.
Who is suspicious to you/FOS? Nottykitten's suggestion may just as easily be to whittle down who the mafia shouldn't attack as it is who the town shouldn't vote for. GmK's suggestion to out the cop, while it is infact a good idea, also raises a bit of suspicion, even though it 'shouldn't'. I don't trust role claiming, I guess.
What do you consider your strength(s)? People think I'm good at the game.
What do you consider your weakness(es)? People think I'm good at the game.
How experienced are you in Mafia games? Pretty experienced in forum/irc mafia.
Who is suspicious to you/FOS? Nottykitten's suggestion may just as easily be to whittle down who the mafia shouldn't attack as it is who the town shouldn't vote for. GmK's suggestion to out the cop, while it is infact a good idea, also raises a bit of suspicion, even though it 'shouldn't'. I don't trust role claiming, I guess.
Notme
Self-Aware Forum AI
How suspicious do you deem yourself to be?
I think I'm not suspicious at all.
What do you consider your strength(s)?
Good question
How experienced are you in Mafia games?
Hi, I'm new.
Who is suspicious to you/FOS?
Hmm... maybe people, who didn't talket yet. A little.
I think I'm not suspicious at all.
What do you consider your strength(s)?
Good question
How experienced are you in Mafia games?
Hi, I'm new.
Who is suspicious to you/FOS?
Hmm... maybe people, who didn't talket yet. A little.
unbeliever
Member
How suspicious do you deem yourself to be?I'm not suspicious, since this is my first game. :3
What do you consider your strength(s)?I don't really know yet how I'll do at this game. c:
How experienced are you in Mafia games?This is my first mafia game, and I hope I'll do well...
Who is suspicious to you/FOS?Don't know really... Can't determine.
What do you consider your strength(s)?I don't really know yet how I'll do at this game. c:
How experienced are you in Mafia games?This is my first mafia game, and I hope I'll do well...
Who is suspicious to you/FOS?Don't know really... Can't determine.
GmK
International Man Of Cake
Oh, i know what you mean.
That wasn't meant in a way to ask him to out himself, I was just thinking of a way how the stupid fact we lost a cop during N1 could still be used to an advantage. I wouldnt expect anyone to really go so far as to use that strategy, since the price is too high.
That wasn't meant in a way to ask him to out himself, I was just thinking of a way how the stupid fact we lost a cop during N1 could still be used to an advantage. I wouldnt expect anyone to really go so far as to use that strategy, since the price is too high.
Ansoro2112
Hottie
How suspicious do you deem yourself to be? I don't really know. Maybe people find me suspicious and maybe they don't.
What do you consider your strength(s)? Logic. After Doomed Cruise and Medievel Mafia all I can say is that I have good logic. My aggression, it helps me sometimes.
How experienced are you in Mafia games? I would say I pretty much know how the game works now. It's my 4th time playing.
Who is suspicious to you/FOS? Still no one.
What do you consider your strength(s)? Logic. After Doomed Cruise and Medievel Mafia all I can say is that I have good logic. My aggression, it helps me sometimes.
How experienced are you in Mafia games? I would say I pretty much know how the game works now. It's my 4th time playing.
Who is suspicious to you/FOS? Still no one.
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