TBD [Status: GAME OVER]

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The deadline is in less than 18 hours.
There are currently four votes.

I think Notty is innocent(thirdparty)
-I believe Road's investigative item was falsified.
--By a role similar to Notty's, but mafia-aligned.
-Like Road said, the giver knew who Road would use it on.
--They knew Notty was not mafia.
--And that the item would tell Road she was.

With the above information, I believe Notty to be harmless, and at the same time, have no reason to believe Road to be mafia.
Unless of course he's lying. (and/or himself is the saboteur.)
If someone received an item N1 (or whichever day Road investigated Notty), then that means that Road did not ever receive the (falsified) investigative item, and is therefore lying.
Now I ask: Did anyone receive an item N1?
 

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If Defiant got an "Investigation Module" last night, similar to what road got N1...

I would say there is a high chance either someone is lying, or there are 3 item makers, as what I can only assume from the wording in his posts, Ooglie received a knife last night (could be wrong, but seeing as he posted it earlier in this Mafia Day after the night ended, I'm assuming he got it tonight).

If this is the case, something is up with these items.
 

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If Defiant got an "Investigation Module" last night, similar to what road got N1...

I would say there is a high chance either someone is lying, or there are 3 item makers, as what I can only assume from the wording in his posts, Ooglie received a knife last night (could be wrong, but seeing as he posted it earlier in this Mafia Day after the night ended, I'm assuming he got it tonight).

If this is the case, something is up with these items.
Oh wow I had completely overlooked that.

Now I'm concerned.
Scratch that. I'm scared.

I think having three item givers in this game is a bit overkill, so I'm more apt to believe someone is lying.
 

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Ok.
I have an idea.

Three itemgivers
-one town
-one mafia
-one 3p
-Notty is lying about her win condition.

Or, again, someone is lying. But I don't see much reason to fake claim receiving an item. My brain hurts. But it's late. MYEH
I'm think about using the detector on someone I know is innocent so I can test if the Module is fake.
But there isn't really anyone who is confirmed innocent.
 

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so it's not possible for other item givers to make the same of an item like notty claims she can do?
I would say at this point it's hard to say, especially with the murkiness of these "items" and who gives them out is currently.
Anything could be a bluff at this point, so we can't say anything for certain.

Let's see what items are currently claimed and in play:
-Notty claims to be an inventor; she claims to have used a pre-game made "Investigation" item and used it on Endersteve N1. Since then she claims to have made 3 bombs each night, 1 currently on Notty, 1 currently on Ender, and 1 currently on some unknown party.
-Road claims to have obtained an "Investigation module" on N1 and used it on Notty, it came up "Guilty"
-Defiant also claimed to have obtained an "Investigation module" on N3, it has yet to be used.
-Earlier today Ooglie claimed to gotten a knife, but that's about it.

There's a bunch of circumstances that seem to be able to come from this information.
>If both road and defiant are telling the truth, this "investigation module" most likely came from the same person (as it has the same name and on different nights), and most likely shares similar attributes to Notty's role.
>We don't know if there are any more inventors. Let's take 2 as a safe choice (3 seems like overkill imo), if road, notty, and especially defiant are telling the truth about their inventions and actions, then Ooglie's knife seems... out of place. Although it's less of an inventor's sort of item as it falls in line similar to the saboteur from Supernatural Hotel which has 3 pre-made items that can be passed out... It's still strange under the current circumstances.
>Notty could be lying all along and our thoughts in the current situation where these modules will give false verdicts could be wrong, and that Notty really is guilty.

...There's a lot to discuss at the moment.

I feel like everyone should state their thoughts in the current moment, where we should go from here, and if they are voting, re-explain/expand upon your reasoning to vote.

Currently I still feel like Notty is, if there truly are multiple, a non-Mafia "inventor..." but I also have a feeling road isn't lying about his module which complicates thoughts about him for me. A probable case is that these modules are bad, most likely by Mafia, and if so I feel like that clears road... if that were the case. But I don't know at the moment.
Other than that I also want to know people's thoughts on the list of current claimed alignments and the unknown players I made on the previous page. I still feel like that's a good base to basically start hunting at.
 

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Eh personally no arguments are enough for me to vote for anyone.
I'll be voteless, today.

Also sorry for such little activity from myself - I haven't seen anything that's rung alarm bells honestly.
From my point of view everyone is just tearing each other to bits while I believe the mafia may be among those who are being quieter.

I may be completely wrong and we have a mafia or two under pressure - I guess I won't know until one of the scum die - but I believe otherwise.
 
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