The Bastard Game: Day 5
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Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Like you said yourself, to explain for when I would die during the night because if town thought you could save me and you couldn't youd be lynched dead.
That a clear change in direction of what you and Jivvi were doing was there once you realised your plan was falling through, and you two transitioning to your new plan which involved pushing for my name more for some reason (maybe solely to have Jivvi disagree some more idk).
Rule #1 if you're Mafia is don't tell others who your Mafia teammates are, it's not that hard and Jivvi had 0 reason signal you with anything unless you were either working together or he was tricking you. You seem so set on trying to convince us Jivvi was stupid enough to give away all his teammates when in reality not only was there 0 incentive for him to do so but I'd think Jivvi wouldn't just give them away. I dont even remember you having any kind of push onto Arelic besides one or two posts which have 0 evidence or solid logic so why would any sane Mafia member go out of his way to tell someone that he wasn't told by Ender is Mafia go about and give away all his fellow Mafia members. It doesn't make sense, let alone the fact that nobody knows her name so she couldn't even be lynched. I don't believe this Jivvi giving his teammates away 1 bit, if it isn't a play by you and Jivvi then Jivvi is tricking you.
Actually we can't because if you remove a rating it also removes the history in your recent activity and stuff so its poof gone never to be found again, which is kind of my bad for not realising to check it after you made your post.
You could of easely lied about sending it to Ender and instead worked on it for a while to try and make sure it complements your story so far and discuss it with Jivvi in your Mafia daychat.
If I claimed Mafia and told someone they were gonna die tonight(which I can't see Jivvi doing), and that person suddenly says 'wait I'm actually undercover don't kill me I'm one of you!!!!!' I'd totally believe them yes! He totally had every reason to believe you except he didn't because why in the world would he believe someone he just said he was going to kill. Don't try and flatter yourself by saying you're just that good because I think more highly of Jivvi to fall for this claim let alone give away his Mafia team to it.
Why risk it? Why risk exposing yourself and giving away Mafia secrets when you can either just be completely silent or simply go with a plan where he simply gets everyone to claim flavour names. Hell you said the name you gave wasn't long enough that alone would be reason for Jivvi to doubt the actual working of this inn. I read the transcript and like I've said before I'm not convinced at all that Jivvi would do any of these things.
It doesn't add up because you said this in your 'great' plan post:
Oh hello your plan involved keeping Jivvi alive and then telling us all the juicy Info during the night but you couldn't tell us at all because you wouldn't be in the inn since you can't invite yourself. This is not only a fault in your town-plan, but also a fault in your fake claim towards Jivvi, because you told Jivvi you would make another Inn with him and someone else so if he won't be in an inn the night after he'd kill you immediately without you having the ability to pass your info on. It doesn't add up because your fake claim towards Jivvi ends up with you dying because you can't re-add Jivvi and with the Town ending up with no Info since you can't pass your info when you die during the night.
The only way I see you being town is if Jivvi lied to you and still tried to kill you tonight, meaning Jivvi's the one that can supposedly charge up abilities and the nightkill went to flavour Inf when he got blocked. We're lynching Jivvi so they can't bypass it anymore after today, and go ahead call me out on resting alot on this theory but the only alternative to you being town is that Jivvi was extremely stupid and I simply don't believe that. And if Jivvi dies and doesn't turn out to be the upcharger or whatever that role is called then I guess you know what I think of you during the night.
Sounds good to me, go ahead and invite them to put in your action as we'll probs end the day shortly and if you truely are town wouldn't want to waste that. I agree with adding Danni(flavour) One to it maybe he can do something with his ability and the ones in the inn.
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
Jivvi was pushing for a mass claim of names so it makes sense he would want to signal me of who not to push on. A massclaim of names would've been inevitable eventually anyway.
You can check rune's rating post history and see when his is, and know (using my screenshot) that he rated it after Jivvi, and thus Jivvi rated it before Rune did.
Because he wasn't thinking straight + he didn't believe me until I knew both of his names, and at that point the only two options in his head were "either he's interrogator or he's telling the truth", so then my point about the title being weird pushed him to believing I'm telling the truth. The reason he said he's mafia is because he needs to tell dess quickly and he's in a lie detector so 1) he can't use communicator since it's too slow and 2) he can't lie
I acknowledged the possibility that Jivvi has tricked me but I'm not going to assume so until Arelic/Ltin/Oak are proven to be town.
What plan where he simply gets flavour names, what? And the inn name wasn't long enough at first, but that was before they'd read the thread. I changed it, since Ender let me.
I've literally addressed this earlier u g h
As you literally quote, I say that I need to explain it in the title, in the few words I have. Because I can't join the inn.
I didn't come up with the long-term-trick-jivvi plan until the morning so I wasn't genuinely thinking I could invite Jivvi to an inn the next day, that was all lies to get him to trust me. I was planning on pretending I'd had a change of plans or something and see if Jivvi bought it. I disagree this would have led to my death, and even if it did, in this very same plan I was outing all my info to you and danni so it wouldn't matter, and if the plan worked we'd all survive and I'd get more info to pass on.
Maybe he is tricking me, we'll see.
I already have and I don't care what you think of me during the night because guess what you're going to die <3
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
Ignore me slightly since I wanted to make a point but realized part of it was wrong.
Nevertheless if Jivvi supposedly chooses the kill and got blocked then that would mean two others besides Mafia killed which I also find unlikely.
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
Possibly, or the other theory I have is that Jivvi doesn't carry out the kill and him changing the kill = / = him doing it, and that the Mafia chose to kill TWG last night instead of you.
Nottykitten
Nomnomnom kitteh!
This is as rich as me insisting on my sanity but we can all have our gut feelings I guess <3
I guess we will see.
End him I don't think we have anything else to discuss and may the odds be ever in your favour
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
No, the difference is that you wouldn't accept that you were wrong. I've said since the beginning "I DON'T KNOW IF THESE ARE LEGIT OR JIVVI HAS LIED" so don't paint me with your stubbornness brush <3
