hahahahahaha i got framed what a brilliant setup
i don't really expect a great deal of success arguing this but i will anyway for the sake of not throwing
if i was mafia i:
a) would have lurked and just let the past 2 days stagnate on their own; i'd like to take a lot of the credit for the discussions today and yesterday happening
b) would have pushed mulb more
c) wouldn't have pushed velz for being useless (if i'd known about the dog role i obviously wouldn't have even bothered)
i'm a/the vampire, can't find what game i'm from cause when i searched the subforum all the posts are talking about a role where they start 3p and convert to mafia somehow. this isn't at all like my role which is basically just bulletproof (role pm calls it 'resurrecting') which turns into vig when shot (which is the explanation for my playstyle this game - i was actively trying to get killed). foggy said i don't convert to vig when i get shot during they day which seems silly and inconsistent but hey whatever right. anyway trying to get killed so i could be vig was basically the only reason i was active so now that's gone n i'm really disappointed
wow this is some awful logic but yeah my role isn't super useful so whatever
if i managed to get another mafia, sk or another townie to kill me we'd have had a vig which would have helped sift through the lurking players who mafia are hiding in pretty easily but the dumb inconsistent mechanic means shooting me during the day won't let me live on as a proven townie so it doesn't really matter honestly
uhhh, right
i had posted a ‘never mind’ post just now
but then i deleted it with the reason being ‘never mind that never mind’
but then i thought ‘wait, what if that’s against the rules?’ but i already did it
so i’m saying it here just in case i shouldn’t have
But anyways
Jivvi i did, in fact, find that role after a bit of searching, but i wanted to ask how did you find that a minute after saying you couldn’t find it? i figure you might have had a tab dedicated to it though, so never mind that question
You turn into a vigilante when shot, right? In that case, would you mind Later_Gator shooting you?
i had posted a ‘never mind’ post just now
but then i deleted it with the reason being ‘never mind that never mind’
but then i thought ‘wait, what if that’s against the rules?’ but i already did it
so i’m saying it here just in case i shouldn’t have
But anyways
Jivvi i did, in fact, find that role after a bit of searching, but i wanted to ask how did you find that a minute after saying you couldn’t find it? i figure you might have had a tab dedicated to it though, so never mind that question
You turn into a vigilante when shot, right? In that case, would you mind Later_Gator shooting you?
took me a second to realise that searching doesn't include subsections. i searched archived games (other role came up), then the whole mafia subforum (nothing came up). so i went through gmk's archives individually and found it.
i literally asked fog to clarify (cause the role pm didn't specify) and he said it won't so if digi's did i'm gonna be salty
Unu's role (town) was also from Bloody Masquerade. That would mean either there can be more roles from one game or you are lying.
Let's not forget Oog still claims to have a mafia report on you. I did find you quite susp yesterday with the whole mulb situation, buuut
I dont find it unlikely the role is different from original since more people have claimed this, but two things dont feel right.
1. This one might be a bit silly, but how does that ability fit the name vampire.
2. It is all too convenient that you get to be a vig if you get killed, but not if you get shot, when people are in favor of shooting you.
Anyway, my opinion, you gotta go. Im not set on shooting or lynching yet since, if you are telling the truth, lynching you would give us a vig. But, this just seems unlikely, esp with oog's report. Shooting you might be a better option then, but who knows, anything is possible in a closed setup.
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This does boil down to which of the two conflicting claims we can trust though - and between Oog and Jivvi it's definitely Jivvi who has the more believable one, especially with Oog and his incomplete claim (+the stuff Digi mentioned)
That's the thing that's troubling right now
That's the thing that's troubling right now
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There is a vanilla cop role from Samlen's C9++ game though, hmm...
have we even had enough games to fill the setup with only one role from each game? even if there was, restricting the role choices like that would make it even harder to make a reasonable setup
i don't think anyone has forgotten? plus with a janitor and tailor, it's easy to imagine that there could be a framer.
probably not that it's different, just that BM didnt have day kills
it doesnt. i could argue that i would have fake claimed a better name if i was mafia but then it's just a wifom
yeah it's clunky and thats part of the reason why i've been complaining about the setup
night kills only remember lol
im offended but im not gonna complain about being out of this game
Oh my bad I misunderstood. Eitherway I think we still have 2 choices: shooting you or shooting oog. Then well know if the other is telling the truth. However, if we shoot oog and he is telling the truth we loose a cop. If he isnt, youll be 'confirmed', but with what you explained, you wont likely be killed at night anymore.On the other hand if we shoot you and you are lying, we have a 'confirmed' cop, if you are telling the truth we lynch oog. So i think shooting you is the way to go.
Deadline is near so it would be nice if we decide soon.
Mooglie
The Local Cow
im almost 86% sure that there will only be one role from each game (unless anyone else wants to CC that by going against any of the other dead people's games) so if you dont believe my cop report this should be enough tbh
also i dont believe the convenient timing of magically finding the role right after claiming to look more innocent
also i dont like the fact that, if jivvi is the vampire, he doesnt turn into a good role when he's shot during day since that's kinda bad design imo
i'm still down for the shoot jivvi lynch me if he is somehow not mafia plan since im now 99% sure hes mafia when i was worried about being insane/paranoid before (also i only looked so far back like 2-3 pages in archived games and lost in fog + c9++ were the only games i found with a vanilla cop and they had no modifiers so)
Velzerat
Drink up baby, stay up all night
WOOF
i investigated the death of unu, the killer is among these people:
Enderfive
Nottykitten
Faliara
Ooglie101
CaffeinatedKitty
TheWeakGuy48_
77thShad
erik5456
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Arelic
Lator_Gator
i investigated notty, the killer is among these people:
Faliara
TheWeakGuy48_
Lator_Gator
Hipman500
CaffeinatedKitty
77thShad
erik5456
Aqua
i investigated the death of unu, the killer is among these people:
Enderfive
Nottykitten
Faliara
Ooglie101
CaffeinatedKitty
TheWeakGuy48_
77thShad
erik5456
Comp
Arelic
Lator_Gator
i investigated notty, the killer is among these people:
Faliara
TheWeakGuy48_
Lator_Gator
Hipman500
CaffeinatedKitty
77thShad
erik5456
Aqua
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It's not like he had any other choice... I think? I'd thought perhaps that list would match up with the list of people who voted for unu, but apparently not.
this is objectively the better option but since i know im town im obliged to try and prove my innocence/live until it comes to that point
based on what evidence?
yes please
i dont understand how
this is a wifom and you know it
i've been saying this since my claim post. if i wanted a more convincing claim i would have said that i still convert from daykills. a large portion of my frustration with this setup comes from my janky-ass role (as i already said)
i definitely remember one or two games with non vanilla cops (i was lazy cop in pirates vs cowboys, there might have been an insane one too icr)