The Doomed Cruise - Game [OVER AND OUT ]

[Prizyms]

My claim wasn't for no reason - it's so that today we avoid killing another Town-sided role because they have a night kill ability, purely because of the night kill ability.

I'm quite confused on how you role-claiming equals avoiding another town sided kill, other than you. If you were in the firing line and getting votes, then you claim your role but you were completely safe. It just makes me nervous.

However, once the amount of Mafia gets smaller, my importance increases

If you get more important as the game goes on, why would you reveal yourself if you haven't "haven't found anything of value". I know that tonight I'm getting lynched unless some miracle happens but now that you have claimed too, you're also on the chopping block. But you wouldn't have to worry if you were, oh I don't know, a mafia posing as a town-sided role. All theoretical of course.

Highly doubt we're going to be lynched. I was intending to out yesterday but Notty would have most likely pinned it as a panic claim. However, if we play our cards right and visit the same person then we have a chance of judging roles of the visitors/visited.

Take the following hypothetical situations which show how we can use our combined powers:

Player receives visitor(s), does not die, does not perform action: Either one of the visitors is a roleblocker or the player was a passenger.
Player receives visitor(s), dies, does not perform action, is town-sided: At least one visitor was a killer. If a town-sided killing role dies in the process who was also a visitor, that means the Mafia killed them while visiting (In all variants of Mafia that I've played, if a town-sided killing role visits the same player as a Mafia killing role, the town-sided killer is killed along with the target).
Player does not receive visitor(s), performs action: Player was not targeted but was free to target another player. If said player died and was Town-sided, player is possibly a killer (There's always a chance of multiple visitors) and is of cause for suspicion.

We really ought to work together - we could become a force second only to the Cop in terms of alignment judging power.

 

[cooliorules]

That post... it made somewhat sense..

 

[HypeBurst]

My claim wasn't for no reason - it's so that today we avoid killing another Town-sided role because they have a night kill ability, purely because of the night kill ability.

I'm quite confused on how you role-claiming equals avoiding another town sided kill, other than you. If you were in the firing line and getting votes, then you claim your role but you were completely safe. It just makes me nervous.

However, once the amount of Mafia gets smaller, my importance increases

If you get more important as the game goes on, why would you reveal yourself if you haven't "haven't found anything of value". I know that tonight I'm getting lynched unless some miracle happens but now that you have claimed too, you're also on the chopping block. But you wouldn't have to worry if you were, oh I don't know, a mafia posing as a town-sided role. All theoretical of course.

Highly doubt we're going to be lynched. I was intending to out yesterday but Notty would have most likely pinned it as a panic claim. However, if we play our cards right and visit the same person then we have a chance of judging roles of the visitors/visited.

Take the following hypothetical situations which show how we can use our combined powers:

Player receives visitor(s), does not die, does not perform action: Either one of the visitors is a roleblocker or the player was a passenger.
Player receives visitor(s), dies, does not perform action, is town-sided: At least one visitor was a killer. If a town-sided killing role dies in the process who was also a visitor, that means the Mafia killed them while visiting (In all variants of Mafia that I've played, if a town-sided killing role visits the same player as a Mafia killing role, the town-sided killer is killed along with the target).
Player does not receive visitor(s), performs action: Player was not targeted but was free to target another player. If said player died and was Town-sided, player is possibly a killer (There's always a chance of multiple visitors) and is of cause for suspicion.

We really ought to work together - we could become a force second only to the Cop in terms of alignment judging power.

I would love to work together if I survive the night :)

 

[Prizyms]

I'm quite confused on how you role-claiming equals avoiding another town sided kill, other than you. If you were in the firing line and getting votes, then you claim your role but you were completely safe. It just makes me nervous.

If you get more important as the game goes on, why would you reveal yourself if you haven't "haven't found anything of value". I know that tonight I'm getting lynched unless some miracle happens but now that you have claimed too, you're also on the chopping block. But you wouldn't have to worry if you were, oh I don't know, a mafia posing as a town-sided role. All theoretical of course.

Highly doubt we're going to be lynched. I was intending to out yesterday but Notty would have most likely pinned it as a panic claim. However, if we play our cards right and visit the same person then we have a chance of judging roles of the visitors/visited.

Take the following hypothetical situations which show how we can use our combined powers:

Player receives visitor(s), does not die, does not perform action: Either one of the visitors is a roleblocker or the player was a passenger.
Player receives visitor(s), dies, does not perform action, is town-sided: At least one visitor was a killer. If a town-sided killing role dies in the process who was also a visitor, that means the Mafia killed them while visiting (In all variants of Mafia that I've played, if a town-sided killing role visits the same player as a Mafia killing role, the town-sided killer is killed along with the target).
Player does not receive visitor(s), performs action: Player was not targeted but was free to target another player. If said player died and was Town-sided, player is possibly a killer (There's always a chance of multiple visitors) and is of cause for suspicion.

We really ought to work together - we could become a force second only to the Cop in terms of alignment judging power.

I would love to work together if I survive the night :)

Whoever still has the ability to save, please save HypeBurst or me. We could really be a driving force for the town in later stages - however, this can only happen if we're both alive.

Also cooliorules it's alright if you don't understand everything about the above - this strategy is pretty complex and relies on HypeBurst and I being able to trust each other to the point where we can openly talk about visiting the same player, which involves the both of us claiming - dangerous, but I think this would work if neither of us die.

 

[cooliorules]

I feel like you've literally just put yourself up to the mafia on a silver platter :L
Let's hope that they don't kill you

 

[One one two]

I agree with Coolio. It's a pretty drastic action to take when there's still ~22 people left in the game.

You're banking on the saving roles, assuming there are any left, to split their saves in order to protect both of your lives while you post your intentions right in the thread. It really doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[Prizyms]

I feel like you've literally just put yourself up to the mafia on a silver platter :L
Let's hope that they don't kill you

Rather me than someone more important, such as a Doctor or Cop. But if the Doctor save matches the Mafia kill, HypeBurst and I will be able to 'do our thing' and basically become a psuedo-Cop.

 

[Prizyms]

I agree with Coolio. It's a pretty drastic action to take when there's still ~22 people left in the game.

You're banking on the saving roles, assuming there are any left, to split their saves in order to protect both of your lives while you post your intentions right in the thread. It really doesn't make any sense to me.

Even though there are 22 people left in the game, not all of the 22 are active posters - be that because they received a role with very little to do (Townie/Bulletproof/Miller comes to mind) or they're Mafia trying to stay low, I still believe I made the right decision. We're already 3 days in and I highly doubt the game will last more than 7.

As for posting my intentions openly, there's no other way that I could really post them otherwise as PMing is against the rules. I've put huge warning lights up against myself and possibly HypeBurst to the Mafia, but if saving roles can possibly split between us two and town-sided roleblockers (if there are any) can target potential Mafia suspects, we could possibly survive a night and get at least one suspicious character either cleared or be confirmed Mafia.

As well as that, when/if HypeBurst or I are killed, the other will most likely still be alive and able to judge roles based on visitors/visits, albeit not as effectively. To be honest the only reason there are 'warning lights' for me is because the only PRs who have claimed are Vatumok, HypeBurst and myself - Vatumok supposedly doesn't have any of his powers left, and I claimed late. I'd actually consider the people who are supposedly PRs who haven't claimed to be more suspicious - the Mafia know what HypeBurst and I can do, but what if there's a cop? A town-sided roleblocker? Vigilante? Maybe even a doctor? We're far less 'dangerous' to them than the roles above. I'm not advocating a mass claim - we really should be looking at those who have either been silent for a long time or those who give off the impression of being a power role and have not claimed.

 

[Alisha]

Wait. Saving HypeBurst or yourself, as well as Vatumok whom we KNOW is confirmed innocent? I highly doubt we have three people who can protect all three of you, so this becomes a game of chance. Who will be chosen to be protected? Who will the mafia choose to kill? It's just like Season 6 all over again! I'm not even sure we HAVE a protecting role anymore considering Vatumok used his up and Nitasu is dead.

I also want to hear what Defiant_Blob has to say about what mario did before I believe this.

 

[Prizyms]

Wait. Saving HypeBurst or yourself, as well as Vatumok whom we KNOW is confirmed innocent? I highly doubt we have three people who can protect all three of you, so this becomes a game of chance. Who will be chosen to be protected? Who will the mafia choose to kill? It's just like Season 6 all over again! I'm not even sure we HAVE a protecting role anymore considering Vatumok used his up and Nitasu is dead.

I also want to hear what Defiant_Blob has to say about what mario did before I believe this.

I'm not saying Vatumok needs protecting. Although he is cleared town without any powers left, he is a very good player and he would be a great asset to keep.

However, if you think about it - Vatumok was Jack of all Trades, Nitasu was Bodyguard, that would mean there is probably a plain 'Doctor' role somewhere.

 

[HypeBurst]

Well I'll just state my investigations thus far
Night 1: Defiant_Blob: No Result
Night 2: Nottycat: Mariosatr
Night 3: Sploorky: No Result

 

[Prizyms]

Well I'll just state my investigations thus far
Night 1: Defiant_Blob: No Result
Night 2: Nottycat: Mariosatr
Night 3: Sploorky: No Result

So Defiant was either roleblocked or is not a power role.
Notty has already been lynched.
Sploorky was roleblocked or is not a power role.

 

[cooliorules]

I have a feeling that Sploorky isn't a power role, but that's just a gut feeling.

 

[Alisha]

I think Vatumok does need a protect. He's the only person with a perfect track record, and someone everyone here can know is innocent, so his words carry more weight.

I do think there is a plain Doctor though, but not enough to protect three different people.

 

[Sploorky]

Read through the responses votes for notty, and the only real one that popped out at me was(And notty actually held a fair point on this):

Vatumok brings up a fair point. There is no indication that a Vigilante is still alive, or even exists in this game at all. I'm going to have to vote for you - this seems more like a last-chance fling at trying to garner our trust once more.

vote Nottykitten

It's actually a really weak argument, and when notty calls you out on it, you pass it off as a panic vote, claiming he gave up, while in fact there could easily be a vig in the game.

This, and the fact that, despite your argument, I really don't see the good reasons to claim now, raises my eyebrows. Thoughts, priz?

 

[Prizyms]

Read through the responses votes for notty, and the only real one that popped out at me was(And notty actually held a fair point on this):

Vatumok brings up a fair point. There is no indication that a Vigilante is still alive, or even exists in this game at all. I'm going to have to vote for you - this seems more like a last-chance fling at trying to garner our trust once more.

vote Nottykitten

It's actually a really weak argument, and when notty calls you out on it, you pass it off as a panic vote, claiming he gave up, while in fact there could easily be a vig in the game.

This, and the fact that, despite your argument, I really don't see the good reasons to claim now, raises my eyebrows. Thoughts, priz?

I was waiting for a Tracker to claim since I received my role (As roles, Tracker and Watcher go hand in hand with each other - if there is one the other is almost always present), and HypeBurst claimed on Day 2. I decided to wait for the next day to claim as to not start talking about strategy in the middle of the anti-Notty bandwagon. Claiming in the middle of a bandwagon usually leads to the claimer being the subject of the very next bandwagon, which leads to a potentially very powerful town-sided role having to kick the bucket prematurely.

As for the next part: Yes, there easily could be a Vig in this game - however, there was just one kill tonight. We can gather one of a few things from this:

1. Vig was roleblocked by either a Town-sided or Mafia-sided roleblocker, Mafia performed a kill.
2. Mafia killer was roleblocked by a Town-sided roleblocker and Vig performed a kill.
3. There is no Vig and Mafia performed a kill as usual

Of course there are other possibilities - how about the 4 deaths on N2? Well, there's a chance that some of the people who killed on N2 have one-shot abilities, or they were roleblocked N1 and N3.
Hopefully that clears that up, feel free to ask more.

 

[Sploorky]

Hmk, fair enough.

 

[HypeBurst]

Prizyms Maybe you want to show your investigations even they came up as no result?

 

[HypeBurst]

even if*

 

[cooliorules]

I feel we need more activity on here. Someone pose some questions, I can't think of any

 

[Jivvi]

Aight guise, sorry for inactivity again, was away (again), and told GmK about it, but he didn't notify everyone.

From what I can gather, Priz's logic seems sound; he wants to find out what he can. Although, unlike Hype, he hasn't got any solid evidence to prove his role.
Also, to clear up some of the confusion about the wavering number of kills each night, it would be nice, if you're a semi-power role, and your ability's been used up, to reveal yourself.
For what it's worth, I have no powers
Also, if there is any role that can repeatedly save people, they should by no means outs themselves, considering that they cannot save themselves.

 

[Prizyms]

I can confirm Jivvi received no visits N2, and Vatumok is cleared and confirmed as town - he did visit HypeBurst N3 as he says. Sorry about the delay, I'm currently away from a computer.

 

[cooliorules]

(I'm dropping my roleplay, as well, so x3)
Okay guys we need to come up with something useful, someone pose some questions or something because GmK is going to put a deadline in if not.
I can't think of any questions or anything so someone help me out

 

[HypeBurst]

Well I'm going to run through every name, why? don't question me.
1. grimmjowforever - Quite quiet honestly but I don't get no mafia vibes.
2. Alpha102 - Sounds genuinely like he's trying to help town.
3. shinyshark - Posts lots of confused statements, kinda suspicious of.
4. ansoro2112 - Posted like twice, can't give a fair judgement.
7. Jivvi - Has always been in the back of my mind as a suspicion but never enough to vote for.
8. Vatumok - Well dat bitch is innocent, no doubt
9. Prizyms - I want to trust him but I'm on the edge, the plan sounds good but the fact that he didn't say it immediately until I questioned his role claim gets me nervous. But I really hope I can trust him.
11. Dessern5 - Flying under the radar I believe but I don't think intentionally.
13.Sploorky - I had my doubts of him last night but after my investigation I can unsafely say I trust him.
15.digitalmez - Gurl speak up doe, I know how good yo mouth is, so lets use it.
16. 77_is_the_best - Either quiet or doesn't post much of value which is hard if you have a non-power role.
17. HypeBurst - Dis bitch is innocent as fuck.
18. balloon98 - I can't really be sure what to think at the moment.
19. storm886 - ^
20. kraby1 - Lots of roleplaying, not much adding to mafia discussion, suspicious
23. One One Two - Reserved but posts with value at times, not too suspicious.
24. Defiant_Blob - Used to be very talkative, then suddenly just dropped off the radar, that brings up the warning signs.
25. Old_Man_Oak_63 - Eager to lynch but as shown in last season, thats how he plays as a non-power role.
27. K1ngHoward - People had early suspicions of him which I didn't share and he isn't afraid to make a verbal enemy. (unsure how to word that)
28. hihihilolHI - Umm, I can't say I've seen one post to be honest, If a deadline is made then I suggest lynching hihi purely to keep activity
29. Omar_Sales - Not really suspicious of but hasn't made it into my trust books either.
30. cooliorules - talkative as hell, and seems very genuine.

Yeah well, thats that

 

[cooliorules]

I'm going to do the same thing as Hype, actually. Seems like a good idea. See where everyone stands on our tables.

1. grimmjowforever - Honestly don't remember seeing many of your posts, but don't seem suspicious imo.
2. Alpha102 - Well I don't see very many posts either, but seems to help with the information that they have.
3. shinyshark - Seen about 2 posts. Talk more!
4. ansoro2112 - Um have you even posted? Seems suspicious to me :L
7. Jivvi - Seems talkative, from what I remember, trust them.
8. Vatumok - Role claim seemed legit, trustworthy (from me)
9. Prizyms - The role claim.. bit... iffy about it...
11. Dessern5 - Seems to not be talking much. You need to talk more too!
13.Sploorky - Seems legit to me. Just does.
15.digitalmez - Haven't seen very many posts from you, I'd like you to talk some more too.
16. 77_is_the_best - Seems to help in all possible ways with the information that they have.
17. HypeBurst - Seems innocent to me.
18. balloon98 - Post more
19. storm886 - Post more
20. kraby1 - Again, post more.
23. One One Two - Hrmm I feel you need to post more too, don't see much from you
24. Defiant_Blob - Still have a hunch.
25. Old_Man_Oak_63 - Another that hardly posts
27. K1ngHoward - You post little but have much information in your posts. I like it. c:
28. hihihilolHI - How many posts from you, 2? More!!
29. Omar_Sales - Haven't seen you much either.
30. cooliorules - Well derp hi c:

I've no idea who's dead and alive so deal with it c: (I'm pretty sure this is just the alive though xD copy and paster from Hype ahah)