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K1ngHoward

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>>>>The evidence to support the lynching of Kraby1 is, as Sploorky said, more like red flags since this is the most we have gotten on any other "suspects." I would personally like to vote "no lynch" from the lack evidence to really pin down a specific person, but doing so would just raise more red flags and being in the middle of a game voting no lynch is not the wisest of decisions. Kraby1 just happens to be the one with the most red flags from the lack of speaking this round which is very suspicious for anyone in this game. This game has way too many people going silent, and that is horrible. When the evidence starts to lack for who we can point out as definite mafia the people who have added the least to the group start to be taken out since they are not an integral part of our conversations and can be expendable. Though with that random death we get closer and closer to giving the real mafia (i am guessing 3 left) a larger majority in the votes to swing the lynch in the days to who they want to kill creating a monopoly on the deaths, day and night.

Suspects:
  • Kraby1
  • Prizyms
  • Ansoro2112
  • Defiant_Blob
  • Cooliorules
vote Kraby1
 

Ansoro2112

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Thing is, I have been so quiet and uninvolved in the actual discussions (I've read them though) that nobody has ever pointed me out until yesterday, when 77 decided to pick me up in the discussion only to try and lynch me out. There is no evidence whatsoever towards my role,(except me saying I'm a passenger), which is both a good and bad thing.

In my opinion this is an extremely blind shot towards someone who had no evidence against him, while there are others who have much more evidence than myself.

I just don't know. There's something weird going on. Deep inside me I don't think Kraby is Mafia. In my opinion voting for someone simply because they're "Quiet" or "Just roleplaying" its um, lame? Why not vote for the ones who may have more things against them. Like Cooliorules. I just see this as a very risky/blindshot move. If Kraby is a Mafia then great! Awesome. But if he isn't, then we lynched a passenger. Which that's not good.

Now, don't think I'm trying to defend Kraby. Because I'm not. I'm just saying I found voting for him at this point kind of dumb. Since we don't know anything about him yet. Maybe he now will learn his lesson to talk more.

My point is that we're voting for someone who we know nothing about. When there's a lady right there (Cooliorules) which I pointed some things about her. Which it might not be that great of a proof but at least its something. I consider it better than the argument of voting someone who's too quiet or just RP.
 

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///VOOOOOOOOTECOUNT///

Players needed to lynch: 12
Players needed to no-lynch: 11

Sorry, currently on a train, not able to do the speicif thing of who voted, will do later!

Defiant_Blob - 1 - One One Two (L-11)
Kraby1 - 8 - 77_is_the_best and others (L-4)
Cooliorules - 1 - ansoro2112 (L-11)

Players not voting: hihihilolHI, cooliorules, shinyshark, kraby1, balloon98, storm886, Jivvi, Omar_Sales, grimmjowforever, HypeBurst, Old_Man_Oak_63, Alpha102, Vatumok, Prizyms, Dessern5, Sploorky, Defiant_Blob, digitalmez


PSA: I will be on holiday until Oct. 7th (visiting the USA and Japan) - I will check this thread, do votecounts, etc., but things will take a little longer inbetween. Please be so kind and have some patience, especially when a lynch is reached, please do not continue to post and wait for me to lock and start the night.
 

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Do as you wish now, I have set out my defense and clearly it is not working. I want to see your reactions when I do get lynched out though.

:I
"The minute you admit defeat is when you lose" Try to defend your position, get into the argument, pull up points you may have against someone. If you are going to be lynched leave us with something to think about, something to point to other people unless you are the mafia and don't want to oust your comrades.

Dang i have been all over the place with this vote. I don't feel truly attached to my votes like i made the right decisions. I don't have much of anything other than suspicions which is personally not enough for me to get a vote.

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vote No Lynch
 

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Prizyms I'm thinking of using K1ngHoward's suspect list because it is basically the same as mine except for a few people.

Kraby1 Most likely will get lynched
Prizyms I think the cop is investigating you
Ansoro2112
Defiant_Blob
Cooliorules

I'm thinking out of these three but I'm swaying towards Defiant because he was role blocked the first night and there was only one kill then BOOM, he wasn't role blocked and there was four kills. What do you think?
 

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Prizyms I'm thinking of using K1ngHoward's suspect list because it is basically the same as mine except for a few people.

Kraby1 Most likely will get lynched
Prizyms I think the cop is investigating you
Ansoro2112
Defiant_Blob
Cooliorules

I'm thinking out of these three but I'm swaying towards Defiant because he was role blocked the first night and there was only one kill then BOOM, he wasn't role blocked and there was four kills. What do you think?
On that suspicions list--

Ansoro and coolio may very likely rule each other out. If we lynch coolio and she is innocent, natural suspicion will lay itself on ansoro. If she is guilty, suspicion will be taken off. If we lynch ansoro and he is mafia, suspicion is taken off coolio, and if he's innocent...well nothing happens. We can possibly capitalize on this, because that removes one person to inspect depending on how things turn out.

Defiant, I'm not so suspicious of. Things were shaky at the beginning, but he's won over my trust to some extent.

Kraby has the red flags for me, which I've mentioned earlier. If he's guilty or innocent, it won't give us much more evidence on things, at least not at a first glance.

Priz--Half and half. I sort of doubt we have a cop in this game to check him, but you never know.

Also because I'm a bit lazy--Are you watcher or tracker, hype? I forgot which is you/which is priz.
 

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Prizyms I'm thinking of using K1ngHoward's suspect list because it is basically the same as mine except for a few people.

Kraby1 Most likely will get lynched
Prizyms I think the cop is investigating you
Ansoro2112
Defiant_Blob
Cooliorules

I'm thinking out of these three but I'm swaying towards Defiant because he was role blocked the first night and there was only one kill then BOOM, he wasn't role blocked and there was four kills. What do you think?
On that suspicions list--

Ansoro and coolio may very likely rule each other out. If we lynch coolio and she is innocent, natural suspicion will lay itself on ansoro. If she is guilty, suspicion will be taken off. If we lynch ansoro and he is mafia, suspicion is taken off coolio, and if he's innocent...well nothing happens. We can possibly capitalize on this, because that removes one person to inspect depending on how things turn out.

Defiant, I'm not so suspicious of. Things were shaky at the beginning, but he's won over my trust to some extent.

Kraby has the red flags for me, which I've mentioned earlier. If he's guilty or innocent, it won't give us much more evidence on things, at least not at a first glance.

Priz--Half and half. I sort of doubt we have a cop in this game to check him, but you never know.

Also because I'm a bit lazy--Are you watcher or tracker, hype? I forgot which is you/which is priz.
Im the passenger tracker, when I investigate a player I see who they targeted that night :)
So Priz is watcher
 

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Prizyms I'm thinking of using K1ngHoward's suspect list because it is basically the same as mine except for a few people.

Kraby1 Most likely will get lynched
Prizyms I think the cop is investigating you
Ansoro2112
Defiant_Blob
Cooliorules

I'm thinking out of these three but I'm swaying towards Defiant because he was role blocked the first night and there was only one kill then BOOM, he wasn't role blocked and there was four kills. What do you think?
On that suspicions list--

Ansoro and coolio may very likely rule each other out. If we lynch coolio and she is innocent, natural suspicion will lay itself on ansoro. If she is guilty, suspicion will be taken off. If we lynch ansoro and he is mafia, suspicion is taken off coolio, and if he's innocent...well nothing happens. We can possibly capitalize on this, because that removes one person to inspect depending on how things turn out.

Defiant, I'm not so suspicious of. Things were shaky at the beginning, but he's won over my trust to some extent.

Kraby has the red flags for me, which I've mentioned earlier. If he's guilty or innocent, it won't give us much more evidence on things, at least not at a first glance.

Priz--Half and half. I sort of doubt we have a cop in this game to check him, but you never know.

Also because I'm a bit lazy--Are you watcher or tracker, hype? I forgot which is you/which is priz.

Didn't see this when I posted.

Could you explain the relation between ansoro and myself? I'm slightly confused by that
 

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Well I said I was going to make a post and by golly I am going to make a post, so I think I shall start with the recent accusations against people.
So right now we are looking at 2-3 people.
cooliorules - suspected for being in cahoots with endersteve and seemingly agreeing his arguments as well.
kraby1 - hasn't provided any opinions, has only really rp'd throughout the whole thing. ive felt suspicious of him, but I was also suspicious of nitasu as well but he was a bodyguard now wasn't he.
ansoro - he is being marked guilty if it turns out cooliorules is guilty.

Okay so now that we have that out of the way, who do I find the most suspicious out of the lot of them?
I couldn't care less I reckon they are all just passengers.

Well wtf was that all about then and why mention these three in particular?
Because they are all just scapegoats for a one particular person who is manipulating everyone into ending up lynching the three of them, only to find out that they are all innocent.

Go on, who the hell is this person, TELL US!
Hiiiiiiiii Sploorky, yeah I see you there, you've been pulling off quite the show, I like how just recently you've managed to drag ansoro into your little game you've got going by putting suspicion on him if cooliorules turns out to be innocent.
I also like how at every turn you try and get us to doubt the claims made by Hype and Prizyms, and while normally I wouldn't be suspicious of this. Its quite normal behaviour, but I just feel you are up to no good in this scenario, and here is why.

Actually a really good find, ansoro/hihihi. It certainly raises some red flags, but I'd like to hear coolio's response/see what other people think.

Also, to note--Both tracker and watcher CAN be mafia roles. Having the role and your evidence does not mean you are always town sided.
So this seems like an alright post at first glance, its agreeing with a fair point of evidence made by ansoro, but its the second part I don't like. As it leads to this being suggested:
Ooo, almost forgot about these ones. Damn.
I think it would be good for Prizyms to be investigated for the night. Would be better if the results were posted though.
Not too sure if he can be trusted.
Yeah, Priz seems a whole lot shadier than Hype, despite them being in the same sort of boat.
So hold on a second, you want the cop to investigate priz to check his role? Who even says we have a cop, in fact I highly doubt it, we've had a Jack of All trades a tracker and now we have a watcher. I honestly don't think we have a cop this game, this is it, this is all we've got to work with. And if the mafia is successful in killing them off, that's it, we have nothing basically. This is what leads me back to Sploorky, he lays suspicion on probably our only investigative roles remaining while simultaneously staying out of the line of suspicion by agreeing with the previous posters.
That's only the half of it however, now in this recent situation we see that kraby, coolio and ansoro all have been targeted. Lets take a look at a few of Sploorky's posts.
Pretty much this
Kraby, announcing and admitting that stealing a car is illegal while stealing a car doesn't make you any less guilty
The fact that you've probably known you haven't been contributing to this game, but not attempting to, raises big red flags. At a first glance, you appear to be active, but all you do is RP, like you're trying to fly under the radar.

I don't deny there is evidence on others, and I hope we can investigate on that further, but one thing at a time, and their evidence doesn't take away from yours. With best hopes that you've been playing us this entire game...

vote kraby1
This is just a direct bandwagon here, providing none of his own thoughts as to why he is voting kraby.
Prizyms I'm thinking of using K1ngHoward's suspect list because it is basically the same as mine except for a few people.

Kraby1 Most likely will get lynched
Prizyms I think the cop is investigating you
Ansoro2112
Defiant_Blob
Cooliorules

I'm thinking out of these three but I'm swaying towards Defiant because he was role blocked the first night and there was only one kill then BOOM, he wasn't role blocked and there was four kills. What do you think?
On that suspicions list--

Ansoro and coolio may very likely rule each other out. If we lynch coolio and she is innocent, natural suspicion will lay itself on ansoro. If she is guilty, suspicion will be taken off. If we lynch ansoro and he is mafia, suspicion is taken off coolio, and if he's innocent...well nothing happens. We can possibly capitalize on this, because that removes one person to inspect depending on how things turn out.

Defiant, I'm not so suspicious of. Things were shaky at the beginning, but he's won over my trust to some extent.

Kraby has the red flags for me, which I've mentioned earlier. If he's guilty or innocent, it won't give us much more evidence on things, at least not at a first glance.

Priz--Half and half. I sort of doubt we have a cop in this game to check him, but you never know.

Also because I'm a bit lazy--Are you watcher or tracker, hype? I forgot which is you/which is priz.
The bold text is what really irks me, I feel this is where Sploorky is setting the town up for a fall by laying suspicion on both coolio and ansoro in the case that either one turns out innocent. Has no one thought of what happens if kraby, coolio AND ansoro turn out innocent. itll put us three days down one day today, that's a big advantage for the mafia, and the worst part is there is no concrete evidence towards any of them. And yet Sploorky keeps pushing people to lynch for them, which is why today my vote will go to Sploorky.
vote Sploorky
 

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I was suspicious of Splooky last night and I inspected him. My findings came up as no result, BUT with only one death last round, you can't fully trust the investigations. I see four possible answers to this

1. He's a passenger
2. He was role-blocked last night
3. He decided not to target anyone.
4. There is a mafia sided role that can role-block without telling the victim that they were role-blocked. (I know its a stretch but, you know gotta explore every option).
 

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Let us remind ourselves once more that both Watcher and Tracker can be mafia.

Now the reason I'm saying this is so we don't immediately buy the 'we'll act as a pseudo cop' plan.

As for hypeburst I think she is confirmed to be a tracker since she was right on notty, but we can't be sure if she's a towny yet.
Another fact that has been bothering me about her is how much she's been pointing out how it'll be a miracle if she survives the night. Which makes it seem to me like she knows she won't die this round (Reverse psychology) and it makes me suspect she's a mafia. Even worse if this is an attempt to hog the protective role for herself.

As for prizyms I still see no point in him claiming his role. One of his reasons is he and hype can work together but I don't think that'll be the case since if the mafia is smart enough they will surely kill one of them.
Now priz said, there are far more dangerous roles for the mafia than those of hype and him; But, the holders of those roles are still unknown, therefore that's another reason for the mafia to kill either hype or priz.

All of those reasons have led me to suspect priz and hype. And if there's a cop out there, please do not inspect priz or hype. If they are truly mafia, and priz can see the visitors of a person you might be just walking into a mafia trap to discover the cop/whatever inspecting role there is.

Before someone says omg dis guy talks as if he knoes what mafia do! he surly r mafia!
I'm just pointing out what would be logical for the mafia to do and hell I've played too much phoenix wright to not consider most possible scenarios.

Disclaimer: I'm not trying to remove suspicion off of kraby, but even if people say how if he's innocent he'll prove just as dangerous since he doesn't give much to the discussion. I say it's even worse if the people who might be our only hope are the ones who are weeding us out.

As to end this post I'm sorry for inactiveness, kept on procrastinating and decided to read thread before the unread messages get to big and I get to the point where I'll be so out of date that I wouldn't be able to make a proper argument

TL;DR? Lazy noob read the post
 

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As for hypeburst I think she is confirmed to be a tracker since she was right on notty, but we can't be sure if she's a towny yet.
Another fact that has been bothering me about her is how much she's been pointing out how it'll be a miracle if she survives the night. Which makes it seem to me like she knows she won't die this round (Reverse psychology) and it makes me suspect she's a mafia. Even worse if this is an attempt to hog the protective role for herself.
Thanks babe <3
 
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