k, I'll just respond to each individual bit of OMO's part.
ansoro - he is being marked guilty if it turns out cooliorules is guilty.
I assume you mean innocent, but...No. The main point I was trying to make here was if one of the two is guilty, the other is 'likely' deemed innocent. I said if coolio was innocent, "natural" suspicion would be put on ansoro. Never said I'd vote him, never planned on it. It's simply if coolio turns out to be innocent, we do have to keep in mind it COULD have been a ploy of the mafia. Not that it was.
Hiiiiiiiii Sploorky, yeah I see you there, you've been pulling off quite the show, I like how just recently you've managed to drag ansoro into your little game you've got going by putting suspicion on him if cooliorules turns out to be innocent.
I also like how at every turn you try and get us to doubt the claims made by Hype and Prizyms, and while normally I wouldn't be suspicious of this. Its quite normal behaviour, but I just feel you are up to no good in this scenario, and here is why.
Again, for ansoro--What I said above. My post was 90% to say
that if ONE is guilty, the OTHER is innocent. Which if I was mafia, I wouldn't bother doing.
Watcher-tracker---Please show me where I tried to get people to doubt claims? I've always trusted hype, because(though notty wasn't mafia), he did kill someone that night, which hype ousted. My suspicions on priz was because A. he revealed his role with no reliable information, and B. because he asked hype about who he was tracking, which--
You never ever say who you are watching or tracking during the day. The mafia can just work around you because of it. And if I was mafia, I wouldn't advise them
against doing it, but let them do it.
Actually a really good find, ansoro/hihihi. It certainly raises some red flags, but I'd like to hear coolio's response/see what other people think.
Also, to note--Both tracker and watcher CAN be mafia roles. Having the role and your evidence does not mean you are always town sided.
So this seems like an alright post at first glance, its agreeing with a fair point of evidence made by ansoro, but its the second part I don't like. As it leads to this being suggested:
I think it would be good for Prizyms to be investigated for the night. Would be better if the results were posted though.
Not too sure if he can be trusted.
Yeah, Priz seems a whole lot shadier than Hype, despite them being in the same sort of boat.
So hold on a second, you want the cop to investigate priz to check his role? Who even says we have a cop, in fact I highly doubt it, we've had a Jack of All trades a tracker and now we have a watcher. I honestly don't think we have a cop this game, this is it, this is all we've got to work with. And if the mafia is successful in killing them off, that's it, we have nothing basically. This is what leads me back to Sploorky, he lays suspicion on probably our only investigative roles remaining while simultaneously staying out of the line of suspicion by agreeing with the previous posters.
Never said for the cop to investigate either, or that we had a cop. If anyone laid suspicion on the roles, it's themselves, especially prizyms, for revealing(again),
without evidence. A big red target is on both hype and priz from the mafia. A mafia member wouldn't get the town to kill them, they'd do it themselves. I'm trying not to be closed minded about the way things could go in this game. And it is true, tracker and watcher can both be mafia sided. Why wouldn't I say that if I knew it was true? It helps the town, or anyone could claim roles that go to both sides and be cleared.
That's only the half of it however, now in this recent situation we see that kraby, coolio and ansoro all have been targeted. Lets take a look at a few of Sploorky's posts.
Pretty much this
Kraby, announcing and admitting that stealing a car is illegal while stealing a car doesn't make you any less guilty
The fact that you've probably known you haven't been contributing to this game, but not attempting to, raises big red flags. At a first glance, you appear to be active, but all you do is RP, like you're trying to fly under the radar.
I don't deny there is evidence on others, and I hope we can investigate on that further, but one thing at a time, and their evidence doesn't take away from yours. With best hopes that you've been playing us this entire game...
vote kraby1
This is just a direct bandwagon here, providing none of his own thoughts as to why he is voting kraby.
Other people voted besides me, and I agreed with them. Would making up a reason as to why I was voting kraby so it's different have been more town sided? No, not really.
On that suspicions list--
Ansoro and coolio may very likely rule each other out. If we lynch coolio and she is innocent, natural suspicion will lay itself on ansoro. If she is guilty, suspicion will be taken off. If we lynch ansoro and he is mafia, suspicion is taken off coolio, and if he's innocent...well nothing happens. We can possibly capitalize on this, because that removes one person to inspect depending on how things turn out.
Defiant, I'm not so suspicious of. Things were shaky at the beginning, but he's won over my trust to some extent.
Kraby has the red flags for me, which I've mentioned earlier. If he's guilty or innocent, it won't give us much more evidence on things, at least not at a first glance.
Priz--Half and half. I sort of doubt we have a cop in this game to check him, but you never know.
Also because I'm a bit lazy--Are you watcher or tracker, hype? I forgot which is you/which is priz.
The bold text is what really irks me, I feel this is where Sploorky is setting the town up for a fall by laying suspicion on both coolio and ansoro in the case that either one turns out innocent. Has no one thought of what happens if kraby, coolio AND ansoro turn out innocent. itll put us three days down one day today, that's a big advantage for the mafia, and the worst part is there is no concrete evidence towards any of them. And yet Sploorky keeps pushing people to lynch for them, which is why today my vote will go to Sploorky.
Again, bold text clears one of the two, not lays suspicion on them. It's true, if ansoro is guilty, we will trust coolio more. If coolio is guilty, we will trust ansoro more. I say about natural suspicion being laid upon ansoro in the sense that it's basic human nature that if someone lynched is innocent, the instigator
is going to have some flak on them. That's undeniable, that's not saying "vote for them."
If there's a cop in the game, or a roleblocker, or watcher/tracker, look at me. I really don't mind. I'm trying to capitalize on legitimate evidence we have. We can not think in the mindset of "What if they are innocent, we will lose time!" It would turn into a game of us waiting around as the power roles get what evidence they can. People
need to be lynched, people we think are mafia
need to be lynched. The only reason I cast suspicion on people is so the town can be open minded, and because I provide input on who people are suspicious of(which is what every player should do). As a player, it is my need to discuss who I don't trust, and in mafia, I am not a trusting person.
If I was mafia, I wouldn't tell the watcher/tracker not to reveal who they are seeing.
If I was mafia, I would have brought up a bang-up amazing job to lynch defiant, someone who I could lay a load of false evidence on, and someone who I currently think is the most town sided out of everyone.
I'm not mafia. I have nothing to hide, I'm just being vocal in my suspicions on people.
Fin~
