The Red Scare [Game Over]

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I just wanted to lynch someone to get the game moving. As a result, I hopped on the majority bandwagon as I unvoted for you and voted for jivvi instead.
The fact that hipman was killed during the night when you were suspicious of him makes me think that you (and your fellow mafia group?) had a hand to play in his death.
To carry on from my suspicions from day 1, I still find inf very suspicious and the fact that hipman was killed during the night strengthens my resolve that he should be lynched.
Vote Infected_Alien
I'm confused - why does the fact that I found hip to be suspicious re-enforce the theory that I'm mafia? I'm the mafia, I know who's evil and who isn't...? I mean you could argue I thought that hip was cultist but as mafia why would I care so much about the cult to waste our N1 kill on them?


*coughs to get the attention of the people* Ok so I don't really know how to read the kill on hip, yes day one I was voting Inf just for the sake of voting Inf, however, now I am unsure as to whether he is Town or Mafia (inb4 we lynch him and he is vigilante or Doctor and goes on a caps lock passive aggressive typing spree). On the one hand going killing Hip would have been the easy option as Inf has said to frame him, but at the same time that could be a strategy to kill somebody else off. In addition at this point in the game I am wondering if killing inf off would really accomplish anything, like we could always create theories on everybody and then work out from there who is suspicious and Inf could always be the default Lynch in the case of the 'we have nothing' or if we accidentally lynch another Town sided player next day we can kill him off...(tbh by that point I will probably be sick of reading his messages). Also Inf to answer your question, I did feel that a lynch day 0 was a better option due to the odds, yes it backfired, but let's be honest if Jivvi wasn't going to talk then was he really worth having in game anyway? So for now I'm going to hold back from voting but my suspicions lie with Inffy, Ender (for pushing the lynch - but could just have been unfortunate), Notty (ARE YOU WHO YOU SAY YOU ARE?!?!?), and I suppose Mulb cause they have spoken more this game than the entire last game and that for me is suspicious what you compensating for?

That's all for now I'm going to work again - hope to return to some action
Why are you so set on killing me? :( Why default to me when we have noone else? I can't tell if you're joking or you're serious. Like, why are you so suspicious of me exactly, but not enough to want to kill me? What? Also, what did you mean when you said:

n the one hand going killing Hip would have been the easy option as Inf has said to frame him, but at the same time that could be a strategy to kill somebody else off.
What strategy would that be?

and I suppose Mulb cause they have spoken more this game than the entire last game and that for me is suspicious what you compensating for?
Have they? The only thing I recall them saying was answering the questions, which everyone answered. (tbh I had the thought of 'maybe Mulb is mafia since last game they eventually talked loads and got good responses from it, so I imagined they'd talk more today, but they didn't so maybe they got mafia which is why they had to be quiet again', but then I figured I was overthinking and never posted but it's worth thinking about I suppose)

Am I the only one who thinks this is inf trying to justify his night killing hip?

It seems he's trying to convince himself he was right in my actions, but then adding the latter part to seem innocent. Maybe I'm overthinking it or it's just worded shit (since inf has a tendency to do so), eitherway it seems pretty suspicious to me

Enderfive analyse it for me bebe
Yes because as a member of the mafia who just killed someone I'd post in the thread justifying to myself why I chose to kill.

Also:

It seems he's trying to convince himself he was right in my actions,
SLIP? (I'm not even joking). Also can you, yet again, answer my question that you've avoided twice now?

At this point I really do not see why I would have to explain myself to Inf, who has been trying to get suspicion on me since start, but hell I am doing it anyway.
I'm only trying to get suspicion on you because in my eyes you're super scummy and so I want you lynched, and to do so I need others to agree with me and see where I'm coming from (or just trust me but that's probably never going to happen)

My thoughts on the hipman lynch. So we all know Inf had vibes on hipman, hipman dies, what does that mean? Why would Inf as mafia, night kill hipman after he said he had suspicions on hipman. It just all seems there could either be crazy (reverse) psychologies at play here or just a weird coincidence. I do feel Inf is trying way to hard to analyse the hipman kill and overall flood us with questions and thoughts. Like this
Me analysing hip's death is not me trying to 'flood' you with questions and thoughts, I don't really understand your point there - like, surely the more thoughts and questions I provoke for everyone, the better, since as town we can think about it more and come up with more ideas and discussion? Why is me analysing hip's death unhelpful?

Why would a vigilante ever kill someone just because you said it day 0? Even more so, why would mafia decide not to kill anyone, that seems hella stupid for them.
Why not? Maybe they trusted what I thought of hip and went for it? And I didn't mean that the mafia maybe decided not to kill anyone, I meant that maybe the doctor prevented their kill.

So let's get a bit more serious here. Yesterday you started with sharing your 'vibes' on me, Hip, and Samlen. What are the odds the three of us are town, and you are using your 'flood' strat to get people to lynch us now or possibly later on, setting up a great game where town gets lynched during day and killed during nights. In my eyes the odds are very high.
What 'flood' strat? Flooding you with questions and thoughts? How would that lead into you getting lynched? I'm very confused, and it feels like you've just thrown anything you can think of together to excuse voting me before anything starts on you

Yes let's all jump on the Inf bandwagon since it's such an easy lynch 10/10 strategy. I'm about 90% sure Inf converted foggy last night to his communist empire, which is why they seem to be teaming right now. I mean foggy could only be teaming back if he knew he was converted, but I'm just gonna assume someone gets told at the start of the day whether or not they were converted. Since Foggy and Inf are such good friends ofcourse Inf would convert him first. I actually feel pretty sure about this.

And while I ofcourse want to lynch the filthy communist, it's pretty important we try and go for Mafia aswell. I still think Foggy is Mafia, and so I'd like to lynch him today. A foggy lynch could, in my eyes, also prove that Inf is indeed the communist leader when foggy flips communist. And the vig can take him out during the night if that's the case.

I think the following people are Mafia based on gut feelings + their voting: Foggy, Hk, Iggish and one of Unusual/Weak. While I'm suspicious of Ender, right now I don't actually think he's Mafia.

Vote Foggy
Is there anything more to your suspicion on foggy than gut feelings? And why don't you think Ender is mafia, is that another gut feeling?

I'm tempted to vote HK but not going to yet since I want more discussion and everyone to speak before we lynch and I feel like if we all set up votes immediately people will just make posts based on those rather than stuff like what happened yesterday or who they think is suspicious.
 

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Okay let's get into something more serious.

First I want to discuss this a little bit:
And I didn't mean that the mafia maybe decided not to kill anyone, I meant that maybe the doctor prevented their kill.
So the Vigilante decided to follow your instincts, and the Doctor knew exactly who to protect? I find this very unlikely.

Next point:
What I meant by my "rant" about you flooding us with questions and thoughts, is that in my eyes you were both trying to cause confusion, and simultaneously tried to take away any suspicion from yourself and make me more suspicious. That is what I meant, and what I found suspicious. From the start you have been hammering on me with your vibes, and possibly the way I usually respond made that worse, but this discussion between us is getting out of hand.

This thought is going through my mind right now: This is exactly what happend between me and Ooglie last game. We could just as well both be town and making this incredibly hard for each other. For that reason and that reason alone, I am doing the following. I am taking my vote of you for now and will try to focus on another suspect (I mean there are five mafia, might as well be focussing on another one for now, just in case we are both being very dumb).

Unvote

Thats it for now. Inffy, if you are actually town, we should work together, instead of making it so hard for us and others. Okay, others can speak now.
 

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I am not really sure. I thought it would be good to get some action, and thought Jivvi wouldnt help our town anyway, since he was away. However, after I voted for him I already regretted my vote and started realizing the odds for him being mafia was about 0. At that point it was kinda too late too remove my vote... :(

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I am not really sure. I thought it would be good to get some action, and thought Jivvi wouldnt help our town anyway, since he was away. However, after I voted for him I already regretted my vote and started realizing the odds for him being mafia was about 0. At that point it was kinda too late too remove my vote... :(

Sorry
Why did you realise the odds for him being mafia was about 0?
 

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How on earth did you all manage to lynch the cop while I was asleep, I do not have the words to describe how LIVID I am right now.
Can I just say I hate you all, I don't know how you all managed it, but once again we have a dead cop.
the oak strikes again!
 

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Yes because as a member of the mafia
I'm the mafia, I know who's evil and who isn't...?
Hmmmmmmmm interesting (I quoted these before I read HK's post so yeah enjoy them a second time)

Can I just say I hate you all
Enough to kill us off 1 by 1 at night?

Also Notty, if your 'theory' is to be believed and you are in fact the Anti-communist party then surely Ooglie is now part of your cult? Also this is partially because he's scummy and partially to prove to you that I'm not a part of no cult, nor do I care for anybody

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It basically was a too easy lynch. Assuming it is a mafia I would think that you, with a few townies, people away, people who didnt want to lynch first day, and most of the mafias, would not vote for Jivvi. I would then think it would be very hard and unlikely that we would reach 9 votes on the same guy, within that short period of time.
 

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It basically was a too easy lynch. Assuming it is a mafia I would think that you, with a few townies, people away, people who didnt want to lynch first day, and most of the mafias, would not vote for Jivvi. I would then think it would be very hard and unlikely that we would reach 9 votes on the same guy, within that short period of time.
Okay, that makes sense.

So, who are you suspicious of right now (just asking since you're online)?
 

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Also because this is the first time I've played a game with this voting system what happens if a majority is not reached? Like we have a 2 way die for votes does it go to no lynch or double lynch?
I don't know what other sort of voting system you have seen, but if on a deadline there is a tie, one will randomly be selected to by lynched.
 

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Ender, are you suspicious of anyone in particular yet? You said you'd start looking in the people who voted jivvi - is there anyone in that list who you are suspicious of already or are you keeping it to yourself for now?
i'll look at things later, bit busy right now, earlier i just wanted to get my initial thoughts out after daybreak
 
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