The Red Scare [Game Over]

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Right, well, here we go.

I'm obviously for a lynch, as I almost always am, but in this game we have better chances of lynching a scum right off the bat than in most games so that just adds to it. Anyone who supports a no lynch or is inbetween either hasn't thought things through or is a mafia that doesn't want to hurt their chances. "But there's no evidence" is a dumb reason not to lynch because lynching will give us more to go on later on, plus, let's be honest, how many times have any of you actually seen a game won because everyone followed the cop?

I will not lynch randomly.

Cults are interesting to me in this game. Ltin has said that conversion doesn't actually change win condition or role powers, so that really makes me ask, what's their point, then? If the cultists are still playing for the town or the mafia, respectively, then the cult leaders are massively underpowered, which makes me think we've misunderstood something or Ltin is hiding something. I'll go ahead and guess that the way they're explained at the moment, they're not gonna be a major threat, but I'll reserve the right to be suspicious nonetheless.

Anyway. My suspicions, gut feelings, random thoughts, etc.

Samlen might be a cult leader. The fact that he thought about eliminating one of the cults early on is what caught my attention:
In most normal games, i'd say lynching day 1 has more risks than benefits, but we got two opposing cults as well as a mafia and I'm honestly not sure if we should care about said cults or not. They don't seem to actually affect us getting rid of the mafia and winning, but they might tear apart the town trying to kill each other. If we do care about them, then we have a chance to completely eliminate one today and therefore spare us their infighting. I love me some no-lynching on day 1 but 2/16 chance to get rid of an entire not-exactly-pro-town faction might be worth taking.
I mean, it's possible that he's (justifiably) concerned about cults (one of the more chaotic and destructive factions in mafia games in general) as a townie should, but something about his thought process just rubbed me the wrong way. Feels kinda like he's trying to downplay the cult threat while at the same time wanting to completely eliminate one of them today (as he himself says). If I was the leader of either cult, those are the two things I would want to do.

Another thing is that he's fine with a random lynch.
If you want a lynch, would you lynch someone at random if no one particularly scummy emerged?
About as good of odds for a random lynch as we're gonna get, so why not.
A cult leader wouldn't have any problems with a random lynch, since they're not in a team with anyone, at least not at the moment.


More suspicious of Inf though, at least for now. While you guys have been voting him for lulz and while I agree, he deserves to be lynched for the lulz, there might be some actual merit in lynching him, too.

I don't really like the way he's agreeing with people.
I'm for a lynch today given the circumstances, like Sam said we could potentially get rid of an entire faction straight away, and let's be honest, with my <o> vibe readings we can get one easy!!!!
mean to be honest I have a bit weird vibes from HK too. Not gonna vote him yet or anything since I'd like to get a feel for where everyone's at before I make a vote but just saying, he is acting in a way that is poking out at me and I'm not quite sure why yet, and it's obviously very early days so this feeling could vanish soon, who knows!
Sam is another person who is slightly making me suspicious but not enough for me to mention until someone else did and reminded me about it I guess

I can't think of anyone else who I'm suspicious of right now. Just very tiny suspicions on HK and sam, vibe-based and probably wrong because I do not feel at all comfortable with my reads yet, they're very thin like cobwebs y'know what I'm sayin'
Especially relevant bit bolded.

It's the classic mafia behaviour here, agreeing with the current majority opinion, pointing fingers at others while making sure that he can point to someone else starting the suspicion if it turns out they were town after all. Plus, the way he's trying to lead the town or at least be active and such looks like an attempt at some easy town cred, which I'm not sure I like either.

Given the fact that I don't really have any strong suspicions on anyone, I'll go ahead and place my vote.

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VOTECOUNT May the lynch be with you
Infected_alien8 [4] - Aqua, hipman500, Foggy2406, Enderfive
Nottykitten [1] - Oak63
Samlen [1] - iggish
Unusual_Dood [1] - TheWeakGuy48_
HKCaper [1] - Unusual_Dood
Foggy2406 [1] - HKCaper
With 16 players it takes 9 to lynch and 8 to no lynch.
 

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Actually I have a few points - why did you include the first quote about me saying "like sam said"? I understand why the other two are suspicious but why the first?

Also you said I am following other people in suspicions so I can point to them for starting it but that doesn't make sense because in my posts I said that prior to those people making their posts I already had vibes on them, so I can't then go back and go "look they said it first", and also I outed a suspicion on hip which nobody had said before which also goes against your point

Also you said I'm using classic mafia strats and let's be honest why would I do that!

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your points but it kind of seems like you've reached a conclusion that the points you've made don't actually make sense in leading to. Not saying I think you did that on purpose but just pointing it out because I do not want to die again thx
 

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Currently, my vote is with samlen. While feeling that he is suspicious, he hasn't really done anything more to make me feel that he needs to be lynched at the moment. Because I want a lynch to move the game along and I'm also suspicious of him, I'm voting inf.
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Inf, you asked for my suspicions. As you may or not may have noticed, I voted Foggy, because he seemed suspicious to me, for the simple fact he was going after you rather hard. However, you are starting to become an option for a vote as well, mostly since you seem to be a big target right now and you are going after me quite a bit. Not saying I am considering you, because you are voting for me. I am considering you, because you seem to be going after me (for reasons I do not know/understand) more and more, when the lynch Inf hype got bigger. I would have found this suspicious unrelated to whoever you tried to do this on.

Like, you ask for my opinion, immediately after you are asking others if they find me suspicious. What do you want from me?

Keeping my vote on Foggy right now, although I don't see if there is any point in not voting you already.
 

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Currently, my vote is with samlen. While feeling that he is suspicious, he hasn't really done anything more to make me feel that he needs to be lynched at the moment. Because I want a lynch to move the game along and I'm also suspicious of him, I'm voting inf.
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So what did I do to make you think I'm suspicious enough to lynch?
 

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The people quickly started to turn on Infected_alien8, but do they know who he even is? Do they know how right they are? The leader of the Communist Empire could very well meet their fate today. And yet... I feel uneasy with the thought of lynching him. Why do I feel like this? The madman killed my father in cold blood and is attempting to make the world bend to their will, yet I cannot speak the words that would put him closer to his end. As much as it pains me, today just doesn't feel like the right time somehow. I'm going to vote for the town fool instead, as they would likely be convinced by the words of my enemy.

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I'm gonna be real here, lynching Inf first made the last game very inactive and thus overall less enjoyable. I'd like to not lynch Inf first this time so I'm not going to vote for him today. I've got a small gut feeling Inf is a cult leader but it's not strong enough to work on today. Thus I'm voting for my second gut feeling, Foggy as I feel like they're Mafia.
 

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Inf, you asked for my suspicions. As you may or not may have noticed, I voted Foggy, because he seemed suspicious to me, for the simple fact he was going after you rather hard. However, you are starting to become an option for a vote as well, mostly since you seem to be a big target right now and you are going after me quite a bit. Not saying I am considering you, because you are voting for me. I am considering you, because you seem to be going after me (for reasons I do not know/understand) more and more, when the lynch Inf hype got bigger. I would have found this suspicious unrelated to whoever you tried to do this on.

Like, you ask for my opinion, immediately after you are asking others if they find me suspicious. What do you want from me?

Keeping my vote on Foggy right now, although I don't see if there is any point in not voting you already.
I noticed you were voting fog but just wanted to know who else was on your radar. And I'm not voting or pushing you, but you're my #1 suspicion right now so naturally I want to hear more from you. I asked who else was suspicious of you to see if lynching you would be a viable option or not since out of everyone you're the most suspicios to me and I'd rather you get lynched than me. Also I don't think I did increase on having suspicion on you when I got voted, I don't even remember making more posts about you apart from the one just now which is my attempt at using the day to scumhunt.

Also RE your fog vote, why him and not Aqua? To me fog's vote was pretty clearly a joke but Aqua said his was serious so why did you not become suspicious of him?
 
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