I'll agree on this but IF he turns out to be innocent, we'll lynch you next
The Red Scare [Game Over]
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Yes, I believe I formulated the third point a bit bad. "Beneficial" was not the best word to use, but the point stands. I think I formulated myself better in my next post after that: “Also, I would assume that it is likely that either 3 or 4 mafias was helping the lynch. So, it feels like you are stepping in the wrong direction when you now go against players who did not contribute in the lynch (the only one who did was weak). This makes me suspicious.”
If that is true I have misunderstood how cults work entirely and will have to reconsider my thoughts about cults.
I believed it that it would be a better choice for the cult leaders to try to survive for as long as possible so the cult leader, could convert many players. So, if this the case then forget my points about cults and cult leaders for a bit.
The thing is I that I more would like to lynch someone at random the first day. With random I mean totally random not influenced by anyone or anything, and I don't really think that is to go 'far'. I cannot see how someone being fine with a random lynch is going far, while someone pushing for an kill on a certain player the first day is not.
Most of the votes on infected was just nonsense, making him mafia because he “was suspicious”, acting weird and people made weird theories about his suspicions.
I also felt I information to share, which I felt was much more useful in the process of catching a mafia than all of the reasons for the suspicions everyone else had, so I shared it. The more I have looked into the situations the more I got suspicious over both you and igg, also when I looked back to the first day.
When you say, “going even further” are you referring to when I said I wanted a random lynch, or I don’t understand where got that from. Also, I did not find you suspicious after that one incident, but them together. I found you suspicious after first voting for voting and pushing for a Jivvi kill, and then went after Aqua, Inf, Notty and Weak, which are 3/4 which did not contribute in a townie lynch. In fact, when I started looking through your posts, I found nothing which made me less suspicions, and you seemed to fit in a mafia role quite well. Also, there is no such thing as valid arguments for lynching a day 0 for neither of us 9.
I am not sure what you exactly want to see, but I am just sharing my thoughts and "proofs", as in moves I could see mafia-beneficial. When processing all this information and using the intuition overall at least I, and I hope also others, easier can see who is more likely to be mafia.
Enderfive
sarcasm incarnate
well, i've already addressed this
i mean i can't say for sure but that's how they usually work
i mean that's how mafia works, you see who you think is suspicious, you craft your theories and you place your vote
i could change infected's name for my own in that quote and from my point of view, it'd be true
not to mention this doesn't explain even slightly why the cultist argument was specific to me and didn't apply to in
you do realise that you're basically just saying that your opinion is better than anyone else's because it's yours?
yes, i am referring to the random lynch
again, i've already explained this
please come up with an answer to my answer instead of rehashing the same point again
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i don't want to be rude but i legit don't understand what you mean with this sentence
when scum is all you look for, you can find it in everyone's posts and i still can't help feeling that you've singled me out after i put suspicion on inf
Could you give me reasons why?
Everyone makes mistakes in lynching. At the moment, infected seems like the best option. Also, it's not only me who thinks that he is shady so why lynch me just because of it.
Also, if you agree with what I said then you have no issue with yourself being lynched also? I said:
Also, you said:
Why did you type "if" in caps? That's suggesting that you think he is guilty with only a small chance of being innocent. I doubt you would switch your mind so quickly from protecting him and thinking he is a town to think that there could be a chance that he is innocent.
What I'm saying is that if he turns out to be a mafia, you can lynch me afterwards. BUT IF HE IS INNOCENT WE LYNCH YOU NEXT.
Infected_alien8_
Garry's Mod Admin
Okay nice, I've finally read all the new posts.
So, in response to Ender, I don't really have much to say. I was going to go through every point/response you made and reply but for 90% of the time I'd be saying "fair enough" - I understand most of your response, I understand the flaws in a couple of my arguments you've pointed out. There's just one thing I want to get clarification on:
Anyway, thank you for responding. Aqua Oak63, your turn.
As for Ender's points on Mulb, as he pointed out, most of the points he made against Mulb are ones I made myself, so yes, I agree.
If you're voting me purely to see if TWG is mafia, then can you like, not? And if you're voting me because I have valid points against me combined with the fact it will give information on TWG, then please point out these valid points against me that have so eloquently been made.
Meanwhile, a couple of people are drawing lines between me and TWG and uno (both of them defending me), suggesting maybe we're all mafia - in which case I can't really respond with a defense other than "why would mafia make it that obvious", but then you could argue that they're inexperienced so that could happen. I mean maybe you guys are right, maybe the reason they're defending me is because they're mafia, and in which case, they anticipate my death and are trying to look innocent when that happens. Also, the people poking suspicions at anyone who defends me makes me suspicious of them, because 1) the points made in my defense are usually valid, logical and reasonable points, and 2) I feel like if people are dismissing these in favor of pointing out the fact that they're defending me, they're setting up an environment where anyone who defends me is put under suspicion, making it less likely that people defend me, making it more likely that I get lynched.
Foggy, seriously, consider your suspicions on me, because I promise you they make no sense and I'm baffled as to how you and aqua think that me making an awkward joke is anything but my usual self.
theWeakGuy48 please respond to Iggish's points made against you, we've been waiting a while now.
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So, in response to Ender, I don't really have much to say. I was going to go through every point/response you made and reply but for 90% of the time I'd be saying "fair enough" - I understand most of your response, I understand the flaws in a couple of my arguments you've pointed out. There's just one thing I want to get clarification on:
Why do 'different rules apply' on your policy lynch on Jivvi? How is killing an AFK any less thin of reasoning than killing based on playstyle? The AFK could have come back and been beneficial to us at least.
Anyway, thank you for responding. Aqua Oak63, your turn.
As for Ender's points on Mulb, as he pointed out, most of the points he made against Mulb are ones I made myself, so yes, I agree.
...Are you sure about that? Pick one argument that has been used against me that is strong. Please. Because as I pointed out in my post, all of the votes against me have been ridiculous, and it's not been revealed that at least two of them were to test reactions from people, maybe a third depending on how Oak responds. The other reasons are that I made a joke and then some consulted theory as to why hip died make me mafia, which, as Mulb pointed out, doesn't make sense.
If you're voting me purely to see if TWG is mafia, then can you like, not? And if you're voting me because I have valid points against me combined with the fact it will give information on TWG, then please point out these valid points against me that have so eloquently been made.
Your theory about me thinking hip was a town PR came from literally nowhere. I may aswell be like "oh fog said this, and let's invent a reason as to why he did and then lynch him". You've based this conclusion on nothing and I fail to see how it makes any sense at all, since like said previously, if as mafia I was so convinced that hip was PR, why would I try to lynch him off (something that would make me look suspicious afterwards) rather than just waiting for mafia kill the next night.
Yes, I could have tried to kill hip day 0 because I'm psychic and knew that people wouldn't actually end up lynching him, knew that people would bring up certain points in the next day and am that much of a genius. I mean I'm flattered you think I'm capable of something that great but how could anyone do this. And yes, people are going to side with me, because TWG is absolutely correct in that it is a dumb move for me to do as mafia, and it is a dumb suspicion against me.
Meanwhile, a couple of people are drawing lines between me and TWG and uno (both of them defending me), suggesting maybe we're all mafia - in which case I can't really respond with a defense other than "why would mafia make it that obvious", but then you could argue that they're inexperienced so that could happen. I mean maybe you guys are right, maybe the reason they're defending me is because they're mafia, and in which case, they anticipate my death and are trying to look innocent when that happens. Also, the people poking suspicions at anyone who defends me makes me suspicious of them, because 1) the points made in my defense are usually valid, logical and reasonable points, and 2) I feel like if people are dismissing these in favor of pointing out the fact that they're defending me, they're setting up an environment where anyone who defends me is put under suspicion, making it less likely that people defend me, making it more likely that I get lynched.
Foggy, seriously, consider your suspicions on me, because I promise you they make no sense and I'm baffled as to how you and aqua think that me making an awkward joke is anything but my usual self.
theWeakGuy48 please respond to Iggish's points made against you, we've been waiting a while now.
Did you just make a post saying how you think i'm town and then agree to lynch me instead of you? Why? Sorry but I'm confused
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Can I also add the fact that it is more than likely that at some point in the game Mafia players will turn against other Mafia players so even if Inf is innocent it does not automatically confirm that everybody that voted him is innocent...
No I am not. Also it was not an opinion, but observations.
It is not
Aqua
Does anybody remember laughter?
Inf you're playing the dumb noob card, it's not that great. It's a very common tactic in mafia, which is why you should always expect the unexpected. The fact that you claim it's such a "great" play and that you're "flattered" I might think you could pull it off, pretty much cements that you're lying through your teeth. If you were actually town you would admit it was a possibility, and move on since until you're lynched there's no way to find out for sure... INSTEAD, you decided to milk it as an impossibility trying to make me look stupid and make your self less of a threat because you're not that good at mafia.
If you're not lynched by the end of this day I give up.
Also for your second point; what?
You've done this as mafia in the past when you were inexperienced, and you even say "you could argue that they're inexperienced". Well yeah, they are and it's a common mistake that mafia in their position make.
super vote infected_alien8 (my vote counts for 3 now)
