The Red Scare [Game Over]

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How's that irrelevant, the reason he was very inactive last game towards the end probably was because there was so little to go on, that's the same with day 0's, he may have been more active day 0 last game but so was I, it's such a medial difference and you were against him with such confidence that he was scummy, it seems forced.
Because last game on day 0 he joked around and talked a bit at least this game he did not, which I guess now can be explained that he was just in a different position since different people, different posts etc. but at the time it felt like a clear difference. I admit my pushing on hip wasn't the most logical of things to do, but it was day 0 and there was nothing else but gut feelings and vibes, which is what I had on hip and HK, and which are usually right (like remember when I said timdood was evil in that one game because he roleplayed in day 0 and he didn't usually roleplay and then I was right, even though there could have been many different reasons as to why he roleplayed, my gut told me the reason was that he was accommodating looking suspicious, there was no other points to suggest he was town, and so I had slight suspicion on him)

you were against him with such confidence that he was scummy, it seems forced.
huh this feels familiar
 

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Okay wait I just realized that Aqua forgetting cop was lynched isn't the same level as iggy forgetting mafia (since the iggy scenario makes us assume he's not aware of the mafia, which would mean he's not mafia, whereas the aqua one just makes us assume he's not involved in the game enough to remember he killed the cop) so I guess I'm retracting my suspicion that this was scripted.
 

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there was nothing else but gut feelings and vibes, which is what I had on hip and HK
(I feel like I should clarify that I don't mean I pushed hip because of 'vibes', I pushed hip because I saw a gameplay difference and my gut told me this was caused by the fact he was mafia, which was supported by my memory which told me he'd played that way (quiet and careful, I feel like this part of my suspicion is being ignored/forgotten about) as mafia before and was more talkative as townie)
 

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Meanwhile, since the deadline is looming and I'm getting a little worried that those people won't respond before people have time to make a decision and I'll get lynched by default, I'm gonna go ahead and make a safety vote on someone I think is highly likely to be mafia, and already has 1 vote on them already (this is a safety vote after all). Might unvote, might not though. I do think it's very likely he's scum, but I'd be down for lynching foggy, oak or TWG as well, it's just about whether or not anyone else in the game is realistically going to agree with me or not. Those are the only people I'd be willing to lynch today though. Aqua, foggy, TWG and oak. And I'd be just as much up for lynching any one of them as the other I think. Anyway, for now (or maybe forever):

vote Aqua
 

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Meanwhile, since the deadline is looming and I'm getting a little worried that those people won't respond before people have time to make a decision and I'll get lynched by default, I'm gonna go ahead and make a safety vote on someone I think is highly likely to be mafia, and already has 1 vote on them already (this is a safety vote after all). Might unvote, might not though. I do think it's very likely he's scum, but I'd be down for lynching foggy, oak or TWG as well, it's just about whether or not anyone else in the game is realistically going to agree with me or not. Those are the only people I'd be willing to lynch today though. Aqua, foggy, TWG and oak. And I'd be just as much up for lynching any one of them as the other I think. Anyway, for now (or maybe forever):

vote Aqua
Inf lynch jokes aside, I'd be down with lynching TWG. I said the only reason that I voted you over him was that you were "head mafia" (as I know now, no such thing). TWG hasn't responded to my points in like 3/4 days. He's acting really scummy and I think we should lynch him. I also think we should lynch you though so idk.
I'll probably just vote the majority on either of you two because as you said, the deadline is looming.
 

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Inf lynch jokes aside, I'd be down with lynching TWG. I said the only reason that I voted you over him was that you were "head mafia" (as I know now, no such thing). TWG hasn't responded to my points in like 3/4 days. He's acting really scummy and I think we should lynch him. I also think we should lynch you though so idk.
I'll probably just vote the majority on either of you two because as you said, the deadline is looming.
To be fair, Oak and Samlen have committed the same crimes as TWG. The only reason TWG is on my list for people I'd be down to lynch and samlen isn't is because of when TWG said he thought I was town but would be willing to vote me off so that if I flip inno, we get you instead.
 

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going purely on gut feelings, same

also,

how about mulb? i recall you saying you were suspicious of him as well
Actually I completely forgot about mulb...

I guess I'd be down for a mulb lynch too. I'm not feeling as strongly about mulb as the other four, I mean at least Mulb gave some response to people's points against her, even if their reasons are rooted in them basically not being a very helpful player, but if it comes down to it, I guess I'd be fine with that too. I'd rather get one of the others though.
 

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Response to Inffy:
I do not know exactly what you said about Oak and Aqua anymore, but I remember it not making too much of an impression on me. This also caused me not to feel the urge to respond anymore (especially when the thread had gained about 5 pages, when I came back).

What I do remember about Oak, is that you said he did not do much actually. I do agree I do not see them around a lot, but do not think they are particulary suspicious because of that.

About Aqua, what I vaguely remember is that most of it was about Aqua's so called 'slip', but personally do not see to much behind this as it is. Combined with the fact that we will be seeing more from him soon (as I have been told), I'd like to focus on others at the moment.

The lynch vote:
As I said I do not want to vote Aqua, which leaves Foggy, Iggy, Inffy and TWG in my eyes (as of now). Out of these, considering who will have a chance to be lynched today, Iggy and also Foggy kinda fall out of the boat. Which leaves Inffy and TWG. My vote for now is going to TWG. Why? well let me explain. In my opinion TWG's behaviour makes him rather suspicious to me. He does not post a whole lot, however when he post he seems to be rather reckless in his statements. If anyone really wants me to find the 2 posts I have in mind I will have to look back for those, if you remember these I will leave it at this for now (they are out there though). I think this will satisfy most of you, as reasoning why I vote TWG. If you are still wondering why not Inffy: as I said earlier, I really do not want to blindly go after Inffy, without paying attention to the rest, so I am leaving Inffy where he is right now.

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tbh, I'm really not trusting foggy

I guess it's in part bc we're getting completely different reads on inf, but also... that argument about "hip is dead bc inf thought this, this and this" just doesn't make a lick of sense. For one, I'm pretty sure he's not thoughtless enough to nightkill the same person he was trying to get lynched, OR to push someone he thinks is the vig (????????) if no one else is going for it

I mean, if he thinks he's going to have to kill someone to save himself from getting killed BY them--which wouldn't even work, as I think Notty said, they'd just both be dead--why would he keep pushing them??
 

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The lynch vote:
As I said I do not want to vote Aqua, which leaves Foggy, Iggy, Inffy and TWG in my eyes (as of now). Out of these, considering who will have a chance to be lynched today, Iggy and also Foggy kinda fall out of the boat.
Considering I view Aqua and Foggy to be about equally as scummy, and Caff has announced they don't trust Foggy, we could go for a foggy lynch aswell. Infact I'm pretty sure most people probably have a stronger opinion about Foggy than Aqua. I would really rather lynch Foggy/Aqua over weak so I guess I'm going back to my original vote and go with Foggy.

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So at the moment in general, it seems that it's between aqua, inf and TWG to get lynched. Can I get everyone's opinion on those three, why they're suspicious and which one would you prefer to be lynched?
I mean clearly I don't want to lynch inf

TWG hasn't left much of an impression on me but I looked back at his posts and I really don't like the sound of them

Aqua's a little iffy for me too, mostly because the repeated digs at inf's supposed habit of panicky capslocking just don't feel right

But as it is I don't really have a preference between those two
 

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Response to Inffy:
I do not know exactly what you said about Oak and Aqua anymore, but I remember it not making too much of an impression on me. This also caused me not to feel the urge to respond anymore (especially when the thread had gained about 5 pages, when I came back).

What I do remember about Oak, is that you said he did not do much actually. I do agree I do not see them around a lot, but do not think they are particulary suspicious because of that.

About Aqua, what I vaguely remember is that most of it was about Aqua's so called 'slip', but personally do not see to much behind this as it is. Combined with the fact that we will be seeing more from him soon (as I have been told), I'd like to focus on others at the moment.
Here is my post again, I encourage you to read it so you can form opinions on it because you've obviously forgotten some of the stuff in there:

So there are my points about Ender. Next, Oak. Oak is another person who I consider to be 'objectively scummy'. What's oak done inf? Well, that's just it. What has he done? He's basically lurked the entire game. He's outed 0 suspicions, except (presumably) for me, and I say presumably because his vote was so out of nowhere that I have no idea if he even is suspicious of me or not.


He seemed to say that the reason he was voting me was because I was doing the most talking? I'm still waiting for him to clarify, but the point is, he's lurked, done nothing useful, and then jumped on what he probably saw as an easy bandwagon to get a talkative town member killed, how clever of him. He's suspicious. That is fact, I'm pretty sure. Like, there's no way you can argue that his vote on me was not suspicious, and if you can I'll be amazed.

Next up, Aqua. What's Aqua done? Well, for one, he freakin' slipped.

And yes, I do think it was a slip, the more I think about the other stuff he's done. He also contradicted himself twice, once by voting jivvi after saying he wanted to only vote for suspicious people, and then when he changed from being solidly against me to realizing his points were dumb right after Ender said they were.



Suspicious, I think so.
So - oak, yes, he's not done much, but he also jumped on a bandwagon for (seemingly) no reason, and aqua has also contradicted himself (combined with making about zero sense all game). Just so you have all the points made about them.

Also,
The lynch vote:
As I said I do not want to vote Aqua, which leaves Foggy, Iggy, Inffy and TWG in my eyes (as of now). Out of these, considering who will have a chance to be lynched today, Iggy and also Foggy kinda fall out of the boat. Which leaves Inffy and TWG. My vote for now is going to TWG. Why? well let me explain. In my opinion TWG's behaviour makes him rather suspicious to me. He does not post a whole lot, however when he post he seems to be rather reckless in his statements. If anyone really wants me to find the 2 posts I have in mind I will have to look back for those, if you remember these I will leave it at this for now (they are out there though). I think this will satisfy most of you, as reasoning why I vote TWG. If you are still wondering why not Inffy: as I said earlier, I really do not want to blindly go after Inffy, without paying attention to the rest, so I am leaving Inffy where he is right now.

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Please don't dismiss voting on certain people just because they don't have any votes at the moment - not everyone has outed their suspicions/who they're wanting to lynch, and I mean caff just said they'd be down for a foggy lynch, I've said so too, so has notty now apparently as I write this post. If we stick to voting certain people just because they're the most likely to be lynched we're making a mistake in my opinion (and me choosing to specifically vote aqua is kind of because he already had one vote but that was a safety vote since I was the most voted)
 

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Pardon me if I formulated it wrongly, my mafia as of right now is TWG, Foggy, Iggish, Inffy + 1 more (undecided yet). Out of these I want TWG to go first, because somehow he seems most 'scummy' (as most call it) to me. Cannot be bothered to look for specific quotes right now, but poke me again (with a stick or sumtin) if you want me to go into this a bit more. If we get towards deadline, and I get the chance to hammer one of the 3 remaining names above, I will gladly do so.
 
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