Trouble in the West: Pirates vs Cowboys [Finished]

[Timdood3]

What

This isn't even pulling at straws, I don't have any clue what this is. Basically, what you're saying is Hype called his bluff because it seemed absolutely illogical. Today Jivvi is dead. Thus, Hype is maf.

This makes absolutely no sense. I'm pretty sure there were others who were suspicious of Jivvi's claim, myself included, and being suspicious of his claim obviously meant you were suspicious of his warning, because without the claim, there could be no explanation to the warning. Does that make us all mafia? Of course not. Just because someone was suspicious of someone who later turned up as town does not mean they're mafia. Us town don't know who other town are, and with mafia working behind the scenes, it's more than likely that some of our suspicions will be incorrect.

Look,maybe I'm trying to pin suspicion on an innocent without reasoning, maybe I'm just caught up on word choice, maybe it's just a coincidence, or maybe, just maybe I'm just trying to convey that I have a really strong hunch.

All of these are equally likely (except the first), but I'm nearly certain that Hype is maf.

 

[HypeBurst]

You basically jumped from "it seems a little off" to "Im nearly certain Hype is maf" without bring any additional evidence between those two posts and people disproving your argument on many different aspects. Now that "seems a little off".

 

[Timdood3]

It's not any sort of new evidence that caused my increase in conviction, but the more I think about it, the more sure I become....but I guess it's not really possible to push for a hunch...I'll drop the argument, but I still think hype is maf..

Cries in corner​

 

[Oak Milk]

Hrmmmmmmm Jivvi why did you have to claim after all that
Also I have something rather interesting I found before Fiesta got hammered yesterday (would have posted it but i wasnt fast enough sadly)

 

[Oak Milk]

Will post it soonish going to get some lunch

 

[Ansoro2112]

It's so annoying how cops are dying so early in the game these past seasons.

Okay, I honestly thought Fiesta was going to turn up being at least a Third Party Role. The way he was just trying to see who had an item was like trying to gather information for himself. Ugh.

And about Jivvi, now I understand the reason why Jivvi claimed. Because when Oak and Jivvi started claiming I seriously was thinking "What the hell are they doing?". Since they were not helping at all by doing that. But now I get why Jivvi was trying to make himself look like the "Bomb".

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Um, is it possible there's just one killing role this season? Since there has only been 1 death per night. Just something that I was thinking about. Or maybe Doctor (If there's even one) has been incredibly lucky? Or someone has been blocked?

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Also, Timdood, what are you doing? Your statement about Hype doesn't really make sense. I was going to reply to you but Endersteve already summed it up pretty good.

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I want to take my time and re-read last day and see if I can find something.

 

[Timdood3]

Also, Timdood, what are you doing? Your statement about Hype doesn't really make sense. I was going to reply to you but Endersteve already summed it up pretty good.

It's just a really strong . _. hunch, ok? I've already said that I'm going to stop pushing it as there's no hard evidence.

I was also just seeing how far one could get with just a hunch for future games.
Well, that goal has been accomplished and I can safely say that I will not be doing that again without evidence o-o​

 

[Swate]

Pooh, a roleblocker and a cop gone now. Are we just really unlucky or does Priz just really love power roles? :\

Sorry for late response, the thread wasn't giving me alerts and thanks to the long night I almost forgot about the whole game xS

 

[Jeercrul]

came back from camp recce, i'm tired and want to give my mind a break. probably will reply tomorrow

 

[Mooglie]

This is interesting. I'll type up a post later.
Although I said I was hyping this moment and it wouldn't be that important it may be.

 

[storm886]

[BCOLOR=rgb(250, 250, 250)]I didn't think Jivvi would come up as cop at all. I kind of believed his claim. [/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgb(250, 250, 250)][/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgb(250, 250, 250)]Hype, sorry for calling you female before (I didn't know).[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgb(250, 250, 250)][/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgb(250, 250, 250)]Oh and I was doused in gasoline last night. Oh boy. Yay me.[/BCOLOR]

 

[Samlen]

Well I was hoping there'd be more by now, hopefully more people can start posting with more ideas on what to do for right now...

Um, is it possible there's just one killing role this season? Since there has only been 1 death per night. Just something that I was thinking about. Or maybe Doctor (If there's even one) has been incredibly lucky? Or someone has been blocked?

I think we have more killing roles than the Pirates, there's quite a few more reasonable explanations, like we do (most likely) have an arsonist running around, which will most definitely kill off people at some point, and we could have some that need a trigger in order to kill, like the vampire in the masquerade, and then there's all sorts of other explanations there could be. Though I'm glad we aren't loosing 2-3 townspeople at night, we don't seem to have much in the way of killing any Pirates/third party at night right now, so we need to come up with way to find them in the day.
The first thing we really need to do is get people talking. Now that a few days/nights have passed, we can start forming some slightly more solid suspicions based off what people have been doing. Unlike day 0, now we can make use of questions like "Who do you think is most suspicious?" We can have people respond to said suspicions and we can start putting together some more pieces from what people say.

On that note, I'll steal some question we had earlier and restate them, so that we can get somewhere.

Who do you think is most suspicious?
Until further notice, I'm sticking with my suspicions of yesterday, with same reasoning, which was Swate.

Who do you think is least suspicious?
Closest to 'least' suspicious lies around with maybe ansoro, but I don't think he's really posted enough for me to find suspicious material.

If we can find more questions and get people to answer them, we can start moooving forward.

 

[Timdood3]

Who do you think is most suspicious?
I still think it's Hype....but I have no real evidence, just a hunch x_x

Who do you think is least suspicious?
Notty. She's confirmed innocent since D1.
Ok but seriously, I wouldn't trust anyone tbh....

moooving

inb4 soft claiming cattle herder or something x3

 

[GmK]

Who do you think is most suspicious?
Currently I am very tempted to find anyone inactive suspicious. Reason being: The night took ages, suggesting actions weren't sent in, suggesting inactive people "forgot" about the game, suggesting e.g. third parties doing something. But it's a weak theory, since those actions could also have been the positive town actions.

Who do you think is least suspicious?
Problem about low activity is, that people can hide well by not doing a lot. Due to this I don't find anyone really little suspicious at this time.

 

[Duffie]

Sorry guys, been playing XCOM: Enemy Unknown the past couple of days. So addicted.

[BCOLOR=#fafafa]Oh and I was doused in gasoline last night. Oh boy. Yay me.[/BCOLOR]

And now you're doused, too?

I feel like the role causing this is probably going to be an issue. o. o

And, might as well get onto these recent questions.

Who do you think is most suspicious?
I'm sorry, Tim, but the way you've been acting just seems weird to me. Sure, it's your second game, but I feel like you had more control of yourself the first time around. This time, it feels like you're putting yourself out there more, I'm just not sure if it's on purpose or not. I hope I'm wrong about this, but I feel like you may be against the town. :<

Who do you think is least suspicious?
So far... I feel like I find Hype the least suspicious. Now that someone else confirmed doused with gasoline, he seems more believable now... Unless Storm's conspiring with him, that is.

 

[GmK]

I feel like the role causing this is probably going to be an issue. o. o

That statement sounds mightily naive, almost as if you weren't aware of a potential arsonist and its dangers... might be reading too much into it, but something really ticks me off about that sentence, the way you phrased it and used the smiley.

Both @Ooglie101 and @Old_Man_Oak_63 mentioned to be posting something "important" soon, maybe that also adds some fresh wind?

 

[Oak Milk]

Oh yeah, forgot about this slightly, give me a sec this wont take long to post

 

[HypeBurst]

My suspicions are really foggy atm, I'm not really sure who fits where on the scale of shadiness. I guess I find Duffie, Digi and Ender less suspicious than the rest not really sure why, they seem townish for some reason. I would just like to hear from those who have important things they wanted to state.

 

[Oak Milk]

Okay so I noticed just before Fiestaguy got lynched that the votes on both me and him were pretty similar, I tried to warn people before the vote on him got hammered, but unfortunately I was beaten to the punch.

Anyways take a looksee
Votecount on me at its highest I believe

Vote Count Tres - A lot of the time, it helps to think things through before posting

Swate (3) - endersteve5, Samlen, HypeBurst[7 to lynch]
Old_Man_Oak_63 (7) - GmK, Sploorky, Timdood3, Duffie, Swate, Ooglie101, Fiestaguy[3 to lynch]
GmK (1) - Old_Man_Oak_63[9 to lynch]


Final Votecount Day 1

Vote Count Nine - The one where Swate is awesome.

Swate (2): endersteve5, Samlen [+8 to lynch]
GmK (1): Old_Man_Oak_63 [+9 to lynch]
Fiestaguy (9): Timdood3, ansoro2112, 77_is_the_best, Swate, Jivvi, Ooglie101, storm886, std1997, cooliorules [+1 to lynch]
Jivvi (3): JKangaroo, digitalmez, HypeBurst [+7 to lynch]
Not voting (4): Jeercrul, GmK, Fiestaguy, Duffie

And Duffie ends up hammering the vote.

Just looking at this to me says there are easily pirates mixed with the other voters, for now though I'm running on hunches only, I don't have any serious evidence to bring to the table but for now I'm going to be keeping an eye on a few people more closely

 

[Jeercrul]

Who do you think is most suspicious?
I'm going for the group of people that didn't trust Jivvi's claim about having a bomb (ironically I didn't at first as well). I don't have a specific person in mind amongst those people that might be the "most suspicious", however if it was Mafia who killed Jivvi, there's definitely someone amongst them that wasn't convinced that he/she would be killed should they visit him. Either that or someone with double lives (and possibly not a killing role) could have visited Jiv, thus not being killed when the bomb detonated. Then again, I really don't know who is most suspicious here, I'm thrown about here and there by the possibilities.

Who do you think is least suspicious?
Not really anyone in particular. I think despite Hype's argument with Jivvi there was really something in his argument that tells me that he is acting for the greater good of the town. I really don't see the reason behind him possibly of making up an arsonist role, so I feel that he is the least suspicious atm, however I'm not going to deem him trustable.

 

[GmK]

I tried to warn people before the vote on him got hammered, but unfortunately I was beaten to the punch.

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And Duffie ends up hammering the vote.

You know, this really is only just starting to turn into a FOS for me, a very weak one at that, but the fact that Duffie hammered, combined with the "naive" statement above, and a general gameplay style of trying to be as emotionally unrelated and attached to the game as possible (in a "well things happen, but I don't want to be connected to them" way) makes me start wondering if the Duffie of this game has more to hide than the Duffie of the last game. Something just seems off, it seems to be too hard an attempt at being an innocent bystander.

 

[GmK]

And now you rate my post "Winner", so basically you agree I am correct and win with my analysing talent? Well thanks, makes it easy for me:

vote Duffie

 

[Duffie]

That statement sounds mightily naive, almost as if you weren't aware of a potential arsonist and its dangers... might be reading too much into it, but something really ticks me off about that sentence, the way you phrased it and used the smiley.

Well, I didn't really believe Hype at first.

I didn't quite believe him because... Well, previous game experience, I guess. (Sorry Hype. xD)

You know, this really is only just starting to turn into a FOS for me, a very weak one at that, but the fact that Duffie hammered, combined with the "naive" statement above, and a general gameplay style of trying to be as emotionally unrelated and attached to the game as possible (in a "well things happen, but I don't want to be connected to them" way) makes me start wondering if the Duffie of this game has more to hide than the Duffie of the last game. Something just seems off, it seems to be too hard an attempt at being an innocent bystander.

And what. I'm pretty sure I tried my best to save Jivvi before he died. I ended up partially saving him from being lynched. <3

Please don't go pushing stuff on me like that, when it's not at all what it see--

And now you rate my post "Winner", so basically you agree I am correct and win with my analysing talent? Well thanks, makes it easy for me:

vote Duffie

Waitwhat. xD

Nonono, I rated you winner because I found it kinda funny that you thought I wasn't emotionally attached, sir.

 

[Swate]

(Inb4 mass amount of joke winner votes on Duffie's post)

I dunno, you're a little trigger-happy with ratings so I guess it's a believable explanation but still, GmK has a point.

 

[GmK]

Except the last point (and gee, I would be mightily stupid to accept a rating (which are forbidden anyhow) as an admission of guilt) you have not really answered any of my concerns - from my perspective. So I'll actually simply not unvote for now.