Trouble in the West: Pirates vs Cowboys [Finished]

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Oh, don't fret. I've read everyones posts and I know exactly what you're saying. I just don't understand what the heck is happening in your brain. Yeah, he's said a few things that are contradicting but I don't think he's mafia. I have no proof, it's simply a hunch that he's town. Maybe 3P.
It's not you personally, it's more the people who quoted my posts who weren't jivvi
 

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cooliorules said:
I'm understanding the things Jivvi is saying. Not so much digi/hype.
If you're having a hard time understanding what I'm trying to say against Jivvi, then tell me what exactly, so I can be more specific for you. I gave my opinions and vote on Jivvi and plan to stick to it.

Oh, don't fret. I've read everyones posts and I know exactly what you're saying. I just don't understand what the heck is happening in your brain. Yeah, he's said a few things that are contradicting but I don't think he's mafia. I have no proof, it's simply a hunch that he's town. Maybe 3P.
I've come off with explanations as to how he's suspicious to me and I've shared my thoughts. Again if you're finding it difficult to follow what I'm saying, please feel free to ask.
 

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Ok the quotes that annoyed me were...
First:
I'm gonna have to point out that he said that he would be notified when his bomb was armed, not who or how he was visited.

Actually, now that I think of it, how would he know exactly he was roleblocked in that case?
We had already established that the "contradiction" was a misunderstanding due to the time that I started typing that post. I know what Jivvi means about the message he received. I was referring to the fact that Jivvi said that "If I get told that I get covered in gasoline, everyone who is visited should get told" which is simply illogical and goes against the mechanics of the game. I didnt need to be pointed out what Jivvi meant, I understood.

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Eh, from what I understood, when visited, he arms a bomb. When visited again, he dies along with the person who visited him. This means that since he armed a bomb (and got notified that his bomb was armed), and yet he didn't die, he could have been visited by a non-killing visiting role that triggered him to arm the bomb, which led to to guess that it was notty.
Yes, I had already stated that in the first few lines of my post. That Jivvi made the assumption that it was Notty that visited him because he didnt die when he got visited. Yes I said that, then I continued with Jivvi using his wild assumption to lay suspicion on me, "its weird that Hype got notified when I didnt get a message about donuts" (paraphased). Maybe since I added that part, my point was lost? idk

And Lastly:
This is the earliest argument of Hype's that I can find against Jivvi after he claimed, if I am not mistaken then Jivvi is correct in that Hype began this particular argument (Unless there is something further beyond Jivvi's claim that I missed.)
What I was asking for was a post, ANY POST, that shows that I started the bandwagon against Jivvi and show the relentless attack Ive apparently been having against him, not the first and only post I referred to him negatively in this game. Btw that was the only offensive post I had against him before he started this whole "relentless attack" and "started the bandwagon" nonsense. (If someone says the relentless attack ive had against him was my last few posts, youre wrong because he was referencing my "relentless attack" before this had all started).

The fact that Jivvi agreed with this post, shows that he couldnt find any posts where I attacked him before his claim and thus the silliness of "attacks" and "starting bandwagons" was completely fictitious.


I hope thats settled now.
 

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Just gon say Hype, everything feels a lot more exaggerated in Mafia. If someone points something out then you start to freak out. It's happened to me before, and you feel as if you can't say anything without it being pinpointed and turned against you when you meant well to the town.

@Jivvi Can I have a confirmation on your alignment?
 

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Just gon say Hype, everything feels a lot more exaggerated in Mafia. If someone points something out then you start to freak out. It's happened to me before, and you feel as if you can't say anything without it being pinpointed and turned against you when you meant well to the town.

@Jivvi Can I have a confirmation on your alignment?
It was his passive aggressive statement that it would weird that I knew I was covered in gasoline that made me go off :oops:
 

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Yeah, he's said a few things that are contradicting but I don't think he's mafia. I have no proof, it's simply a hunch that he's town. Maybe 3P.
I'm curious as to what contradicting things you think Jivvi has been saying.
Digi, I still don't understand the "suspicion" on Jivvi
My suspicion
JK's suspicion
Jeercrul's suspicion
Hype's suspicion

cooliorules said:
Call me crazy for all I care, but I have a feeling that there isn't a cop or doc. I mean on EM there are plenty of setups that have no cops/docs (they generally have at least one or the other, unless there's like a orc related setup. I'm getting off track now so..), so it's not like it's completely impossible.
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I have a slight hunch that there is no arsonist (or role that is similar) and that you're just making it up.
Oh well.
So you don't think that there's a Doctor or a Cop. Neither do you believe that there's an Arsonist.
What do you think is happening? In your mind and all that's been said so far, sum up what you think. Because right now, all I see you doing is going along with the aggression of Jivvi and posting useless hunches. Don't get me wrong, it's good to have hunches, but you're just throwing things out there without any proper thought or reasoning behind it.
 

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Ok the quotes that annoyed me were..
Second:
jeercrul said:
Yes, I had already stated that in the first few lines of my post. That Jivvi made the assumption that it was Notty that visited him because he didnt die when he got visited. Yes I said that, then I continued with Jivvi using his wild assumption to lay suspicion on me, "its weird that Hype got notified when I didnt get a message about donuts" (paraphased). Maybe since I added that part, my point was lost? idk
hype and I already cleared this up over skype, (no, we didn't reveal anything that might bring advantage/bring disadvantage to either party and neither did we reveal any information that might influence the gameplay, he was just confused and frustrated that my post seemed to be repeating what he said and I simply explained my post in detail. Basically we did not do anything that would break the rules, just clarification stuff) so here's my explanation:
[12:44:32 PM] jeercrul: What i was trying to explain was show his process of coming to the conclusion that notty //could// have been the person who visited him, maybe it wasn't clearly expressed but what I was trying to say was why jivvi assumed notty could be one of those whom had visited him. From what I understand jivvi was trying to explain that he thought it might be possible notty could have visited him or some tracker role. I understand your frustration, i read and understood the post i quoted but what i was trying to do was show the process of him arriving at that conclusion
 

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I'm curious as to what contradicting things you think Jivvi has been saying.
The one that you or Hype mentioned. I think it was Hype.

So you don't think that there's a Doctor or a Cop. Neither do you believe that there's an Arsonist.
What do you think is happening? In your mind and all that's been said so far, sum up what you think. Because right now, all I see you doing is going along with the aggression of Jivvi and posting useless hunches. Don't get me wrong, it's good to have hunches, but you're just throwing things out there without any proper thought or reasoning behind it.
I don't have any real suspicions. I tried to change my play style, but I guess it isn't working.
I don't know what's going on in my head. All I know is that I have a hunch on JK, but that is it really at this point in time.

Anyway I'm off my science class.
 

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Just gon say Hype, everything feels a lot more exaggerated in Mafia. If someone points something out then you start to freak out. It's happened to me before, and you feel as if you can't say anything without it being pinpointed and turned against you when you meant well to the town.

@Jivvi Can I have a confirmation on your alignment?
I claimed a slightly modified version of a Bomb. This modified role is a slightly weaker version of the stereotypical Bomb, leaving me to wonder about hidden attributes I may have.

And @digitalmez, Anarchist give people bombs to kill them, they don't blow up themselves unless they screw up their actions. Terrorists blow up on lynching, as blowing up when killed is a mostly useless role for the mafia faction.
 

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... Then I kinda doubt there being an innkeeper, considering that's what they were used for last time.

Unless, of course, there is one, and if they die, then the inns would probably just shut down in general, then. o. o
Seeing as how this game has spent is clearly a fair amount of time in the making, and Prizyms participated in the closed setup last game, we cannot affirm that the game mechanics should differ.
 

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