Zambie Mafia - Day 4 - Game Over - Town Victory

[Vatumok]

Infected_alien8_ Ltin said that if he's not infected or dead after tonight that he will trust us more. But if one of these things happens then his suspicious in meaningless, there it is pointless to say.

Because there are 3 death, one was killed by zombies, one by mafia and one by a town role (presumably). The town role that most likely killed someone is the Samurai by being suspcious and Notty is the only one of the 3 deaths that can visit people in the night.

Yes I went against the town win condition, however, I didn't go against my own win condition which doesn't make me bad. Notty had even said that he got more suspicious towards Ltin because he told everyone about our inn conversation.

My list and suspicious on Inffy are based on intuintion. I feel like he talks more than necessary and that could mean he's bad. It's also based on elimination of who I think are the other town people like ender and Tim.

And yes I did throw suspicious on you before, but sometimes I also did that to check the reaction, I've never tried to actually push a lynch on either of you. However, I may consider one this day on Ltin but it may be more important to prioritise zombies now that we took a mafia member down last night.

Either way, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

 

[Ltin]

Yes I went against the town win condition, however, I didn't go against my own win condition which doesn't make me bad.

So you aren't town?

 

[Vatumok]

So you aren't town?

As a town member you have two possible win conditions, win with town or win with zombies. Now, I'll admit that winning with zombies is less honourable but it's still an option I wanted to keep in mind and that's why I said it. Sharing information and thoughts is often a good thing even if may look controversial at first sight.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Infected_alien8_

Yes I went against the town win condition, however, I didn't go against my own win condition which doesn't make me bad. Notty had even said that he got more suspicious towards Ltin because he told everyone about our inn conversation.

Actually I think Notty's suspicion on Ltin was because of gut, not because he posted the conversation - Notty actually rated Ltin's post Agree when Ltin said he was going to say something about it and apologised to Notty and said he felt it must be said, if I remember correctly.

 

[Vatumok]

Actually I think Notty's suspicion on Ltin was because of gut, not because he posted the conversation - Notty actually rated Ltin's post Agree when Ltin said he was going to say something about it and apologised to Notty and said he felt it must be said, if I remember correctly.

Notty literally said in the inn this night that Ltin telling everyone about my "plan" started his gut feeling.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Notty literally said in the inn this night that Ltin telling everyone about my "plan" started his gut feeling.

Well that contradicts with:

I'll have you know town No Lynch'd twice in a row last game and won!

I've been pretty inactive and I feel ashamed for that, but I haven't answered the three questions yet so I guess I will now!

Which is the bigger threat, the Mafia of the Zombies? Why?
Honestly? I would have to say the zombies. Based on the fact they can gain 1 person a night, and we can only lynch one person a day, we can't effectively kill them off without roleblocking/samurai/Mafia because where we kill one they gain one.

Do you have any suspicions regarding any specific player? Who? Why?
I'm suspicious of Ltin because he accused Vat of being the Zombie leader, which I'm thinking might be because he's the Zombie leader himself and wants to accuse others of being it so that people won't think he's the Zombie leader... ya know?*accuses someone of being zombie leader for accusing someone of being a zombie leader*

What do you think the Oracle and the Lonely Survivor do (if they do anything at all)?
Well the oracle reveals a role upon death, pretty sure. The lonely survivor's goal might be to be the only non-zombie left in the game. Zombies might die or just fail as they try to convert the lonely survivor, maybe even a 1-shot bulletproof to protect it from Mafia kills and give this role a chance to win. Thats what I think atleast.

I see the reasoning behind the vote on Mars, and I wanted to go with that vote aswell as you might be onto something but instead I'm just going for my gut feeling of Ltin.

Vote Ltin

I'm gonna keep my vote on Ltin. I'm sorry Ltin but every since you've talked in the inn I've just had a gut feeling that you're not on town's side. Nontheless you're not even close to getting lynched since Mars will be lynched in about an hour, but I'm not joining that vote.

So that's confusing.

 

[Vatumok]

Well that contradicts with:


So that's confusing.

If Ltin is actually town he will confirm what Notty, a confirm townie, said in the inn this night.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Who else is in an inn actually?

Was Oak or Mars in anyone's inn?

 

[Timdood3]

Timdood3 - I'm on the fence with tim. On one hand, I kind of townread him. But on the other, and this might just be my un-trusting nature, but I can't shake the feeling off that this was an attempt at manipulating me towards being on his side

I said that mostly because of your scarily accurate predictions last game, especially since (initially) there were based on next to nothing.

Just woke up and have to leave for work soon so no super in depth post from me yet, but expect one from me soon(tm)

 

[Timdood3]

Oh and who ever asked:
I was contacted by the detective last night. I feel they definitely didn't use it to its full potential as they stopped talking two-three things in. But that's irrelevant since they're dead now.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

I said that mostly because of your scarily accurate predictions last game, especially since (initially) there were based on next to nothing.

Just woke up and have to leave for work soon so no super in depth post from me yet, but expect one from me soon(tm)

Well to be honest the only person I was right about that game was you lol, which was why you saying it kind of confused me.

But I will admit my vibe reads are usually right overall! <o> spooky <o> bribe the host <o> what who said that <o> psychic <o>

 

[Timdood3]

I thought you had at least one other person. Huh.

In any case, the way you immediately just knew I was anti-town definitely made me redirect your gut even more [emoji14]

 

[Ltin]

Oh and who ever asked:
I was contacted by the detective last night. I feel they definitely didn't use it to its full potential as they stopped talking two-three things in. But that's irrelevant since they're dead now.

So did you have a full conversation last night or was it just like "oh hey u Imma give you some questions if u could ansrew thme tmmerew thta wood bee grate."

 

[Timdood3]

They'd send a message, I could respond. They sent about three before they just stopped.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

They'd send a message, I could respond. They sent about three before they just stopped.

Out of curiosity, what were the questions?

 

[Ltin]

They'd send a message, I could respond. They sent about three before they just stopped.

During the night?

 

[Ltin]

Detective
-Can anonymously question a player during the day

Am I the only one that sees a slip there?

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Am I the only one that sees a slip there?

I saw it too, but didn't think tim had any reason to lie, so I assumed he meant to say day.

 

[Vatumok]

I made exactly the same mistake in my post, where I meant to say last day we lynched a mafia instead of last night. I don't think it's worth reading too much into it because Tim looks alright in my opinion.

 

[Timdood3]

Out of curiosity, what were the questions?

1) Who are you & what do you know about your role
2) Have any information you're unwilling to share publicly?

Those were the only questions I got.
Also, looking back through the messages, it was indeed during the day. I could've sworn it was nighttime.

I saw it too, but didn't think tim had any reason to lie, so I assumed he meant to say day.

I do indeed have no reason to lie (obligatory statement). I did mean to say night, but I was incorrect as it was during the day.
As a side note...What would the reason to lie about being interrogated even be? xD

 

[Enderfive]

I have other things I want to discuss, but before I do any of that, I just want to ask one thing.

Yes I went against the town win condition, however, I didn't go against my own win condition which doesn't make me bad.

As a town member you have two possible win conditions, win with town or win with zombies.

What exactly is your win condition, Vatu?

 

[Infected_alien8_]

I have other things I want to discuss, but before I do any of that, I just want to ask one thing.


What exactly is your win condition, Vatu?

Probably to survive!

 

[Vatumok]

I have other things I want to discuss, but before I do any of that, I just want to ask one thing.


What exactly is your win condition, Vatu?

As a townie my primary win condition is to get rid of all zombies and mafia members. I know it was controversial to bring up the idea of winning with zombies, which is another possible win condition, and that's why I just posted it in an inn. I thought Ltin and Notty were trustworthy.
I'm not sure what exactly you mean with this question.

 

[Enderfive]

the idea of winning with zombies, which is another possible win condition

Really? Do elaborate.

 

[Vatumok]

When you get turned into a zombie you can win with them by becoming the majority group? I assume the win condition for zombie leader also (at least partially) applies to other zombies else they can just throw the game.