Zambie Mafia - Day 4 - Game Over - Town Victory

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Vatumok said:
Yeah... I'm sure zombies would put their entire game at risk just to tell us in the inn that one of us is infected. If there was a mafia in the same inn then it would have been game over for them but w/e right??? They can just infect people without telling them, there is no reason to say anything like that in the inn chat.
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The reason would be so that you don't kill them in the day and as a group you work with the zombies, controlling the game. I do think it would have been stupid for the zombies to do that but what had you got to lose to try?

Plus if it didn't go well you would be put under slight suspicion the next day - hopefully enough not to be lynched but enough to make you not get infected at night since they would be aiming for zombies
 
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Ltin said:
i feel like that is a small chance.

Has ANYONE even died of zombification this game?
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Probably, on that night where there were 3 deaths (night 2 I think?). Ender even argued that someone probably died from conversion there, while I argued there could have been a different reason for it (E.g. oracle or lone survivor antics or 2 kills by samurai)
 
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Infected_alien8_ said:
Also if we leave ender alive and he is in fact alone (which I don't think he is tbh but) he can infect someone else since there's no more roleblock and even if mafia kills ender we could still face:

3 town (one infected) 2 mafia

where we lynch mafia = 2 town 1 zombie 1 mafia

mafia might miss zombie and hit town =

1 town 1 zombie 1 mafia
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dude no if the assumption of me being the last zombie was correct you lynch a mafia now and fali shoots vatu, the maf is finished

meanwhile i try to infect someone and maf probs kills me during the night, depending on the dice roll the game either ends with the day start or when you lynch whoever was infected by me (there aren't a whole lot of choices left for me to take), gg, town wins either way

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Why I want Ender dead? Because as long as the zombie stay in the game I am a potentional infection target and that could lead to me being killed.
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i personally promise i won't touch you even with a ten-foot pole

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Hence that argument that both Inffy and Ender are trying to use against me makes no sense.
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to be fair i just saw inffy saying you "invited" zombies to infect you, which is something a survivor would gain nothing from, but a mafioso would, even if it means their death

idk what you actually said in the inn convo, but since ltin is in the same inn, i see no reason why he couldn't enlighten us

Vatumok said:
Yeah... I'm sure zombies would put their entire game at risk just to tell us in the inn that one of us is infected. If there was a mafia in the same inn then it would have been game over for them but w/e right??? They can just infect people without telling them, there is no reason to say anything like that in the inn chat.
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even if the potential zombies don't respond, there are still things that can be learned from it

for example, it becomes just a little less likely that the zombies are in that inn to begin with, or if they do take up on your bait, just silently, the mafia can pinpoint a zombie to one of the two innmates of yours

there's always information that can be gathered from doing something, but rarely from doing nothing

Ltin said:
i feel like that is a small chance.

Has ANYONE even died of zombification this game?
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if you think i'm the last zombie, yes

if not, no

how would he know, though, what exactly the margin of risk is? any risk would be too great for the survivor, especially the kind that he doesn't know how big it is
 
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Enderfive said:
dude no if the assumption of me being the last zombie was correct you lynch a mafia now and fali shoots vatu, the maf is finished

meanwhile i try to infect someone and maf probs kills me during the night, depending on the dice roll the game either ends with the day start or when you lynch whoever was infected by me (there aren't a whole lot of choices left for me to take), gg, town wins either way
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ya but it's 50/50, if we miss we lose and there's no way to tell who's bit
 
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It's pretty clear that right now you don't want Ender to die so you're just making up things to get me lynched. I can say that because your arguments aren't based on logic anymore but you're just trying to spin every thing I did as mafia.

I'll explain once more why Inffy and Ender are both working together as mafia and zombie.

Consider this:
Zombie Leader - Ender
Mafia - Inffy
Mafia - Ooglie
Zombie Hunter - Faliara
Party Host - Ltin
Blacksmith - Geek
Survivor - Vatumok(me)

If this is true we can do this:
1. We lynch Ender today.
2. Geek gives a gun to someone with a vest or else randomly between town & me.
3. Mafia probably kills a town member.
4. Gun gets used to kill either Inffy or Ooglie.
5. We lynch the other mafia for a town (and me) win.

This is a problem for mafia (I suggested the same plan but less structured before) and that perfectly explains why Inffy suddenly threw his vote on me because he knows he can't kill Ender now or it will likely be a town win. He has to keep Ender alive and his best way of doing that is supporting Ender and trying to vote someone else (me) out. It's in their best interest to work together or they both lose.

Faliara Geekenstein Ltin
 
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Vatumok said:
It's pretty clear that right now you don't want Ender to die so you're just making up things to get me lynched. I can say that because your arguments aren't based on logic anymore but you're just trying to spin every thing I did as mafia.

I'll explain once more why Inffy and Ender are both working together as mafia and zombie.

Consider this:
Zombie Leader - Ender
Mafia - Inffy
Mafia - Ooglie
Zombie Hunter - Faliara
Party Host - Ltin
Blacksmith - Geek
Survivor - Vatumok(me)

If this is true we can do this:
1. We lynch Ender today.
2. Geek gives a gun to someone with a vest or else randomly between town & me.
3. Mafia probably kills a town member.
4. Gun gets used to kill either Inffy or Ooglie.
5. We lynch the other mafia for a town (and me) win.

This is a problem for mafia (I suggested the same plan but less structured before) and that perfectly explains why Inffy suddenly threw his vote on me because he knows he can't kill Ender now or it will likely be a town win. He has to keep Ender alive and his best way of doing that is supporting Ender and trying to vote someone else (me) out. It's in their best interest to work together or they both lose.

Faliara Geekenstein Ltin
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Pretty sure the gun thing can still work against me whether we lynch Ender or not, it's just if I leave Ender alive then I probably lose to zombies instead?
 
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