ZUPLAR INVASION - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN
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Ok, let's just claim for fun. I am The Alien Hacker, at night I am able to hack into the alien Mafia chat and receive one message from the chat, I thought this would be useful but Inffy is an arsehole and has given me the crappy quotes so I haven't learnt anything new. Take that how you will I mean I think it could turn out useful one day, but we will have to wait for Inf to get his shit together. That's all, for Now, Have fun xxx
I didn't use my ability last night as there was nothing to say. Since my role is now revealed, the ability to send anonymous messages as the president is kind of pointless. I guess I'll just say another random message tonight (if it gets that far) to prove that I am town and can't send true a mafia night action.
Also why are people so sure that foggy is mafia? Yes, I thought he was mafia aswell but he cold blooded murdered ooglie when there wasn't even that much heat on ooglie. It was a rash move killing someone like that without the majority of the town's approval but since ooglie flipped mafia, idk, I just don't see why a mafia would do that to a fellow mafia, especially without much cause to. For me he's soft proven town which would explain why someone was killed last night. I'd say that either Ltin or Mulb is the last mafia purely because they have no way to really prove their orientations.
I mean, I do understand why people are suspicious of him, he has been kind of scummy but I'm soft town-reading him simply on the fact that I can't see a mafia killing a fellow mafia like that, in that situation, at that time and in that way.
Foggy2406 you said that the quotes are useless, can we have them anyways? They could help prove your claim somehow.
Also why are people so sure that foggy is mafia? Yes, I thought he was mafia aswell but he cold blooded murdered ooglie when there wasn't even that much heat on ooglie. It was a rash move killing someone like that without the majority of the town's approval but since ooglie flipped mafia, idk, I just don't see why a mafia would do that to a fellow mafia, especially without much cause to. For me he's soft proven town which would explain why someone was killed last night. I'd say that either Ltin or Mulb is the last mafia purely because they have no way to really prove their orientations.
I mean, I do understand why people are suspicious of him, he has been kind of scummy but I'm soft town-reading him simply on the fact that I can't see a mafia killing a fellow mafia like that, in that situation, at that time and in that way.
Foggy2406 you said that the quotes are useless, can we have them anyways? They could help prove your claim somehow.
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I understand how given both Fog and Oog were blocked last night, y'all might be suspicious of me because you can't tell for sure that I am not town. Let me make it clear:
As for why there was a kill yesterday, I offer the following two theories:
It is possible that unu's roleblock doesn't affect aliens. It has been mentioned in the alien texts that humans ("other spiecies") do receive chemically-induced hallucinations, but no where in those texts do they mention aliens being affected by chemicals. It is entirely possible that aliens are not affected by the drugs that unu have.
Alternatively, there is a role that targets someone and the target dies the following night.
I can't tell you for sure if any of these are true, but from my perspective, this is all I can think of.
- My role has been proven; I am beyond doubt the Tracker Dog.
- It should be obvious by now that mafia consists of aliens. Of all roles, I am the only one whose species is 100% confirmed, and dogs are not aliens.
- It doesn't make sense for Mafia to have a role that investigates who kills who; chances are that the devil is the only third party, and the devil doesn't kill - that renders any sort of mafia dog completely useless.
- It doesn't make sense for me to be a third party because my role action hurts no one, whilst third parties usually do.
- I claimed dog right from the start just so I can talk normally without trying to hide the barks and woofs. There is no reason for me to impose such a restriction on myself if I were lying.
- When some players were pushing for a Vino lynch, I reported that HK killed Enderfive. Why would I do that then kill Vino later if I were mafia trying to bring the watcher down?
As for why there was a kill yesterday, I offer the following two theories:
It is possible that unu's roleblock doesn't affect aliens. It has been mentioned in the alien texts that humans ("other spiecies") do receive chemically-induced hallucinations, but no where in those texts do they mention aliens being affected by chemicals. It is entirely possible that aliens are not affected by the drugs that unu have.
Alternatively, there is a role that targets someone and the target dies the following night.
I can't tell you for sure if any of these are true, but from my perspective, this is all I can think of.
Mulbery can you Confirm Ltin visited you. It might seem like we can take this for granted, but most of the roles are confirmed already.
Mulbery why haven't you revealed any information since you revealed enderfive was killed by HKCaper?
Given vino confirmed TWG and TWG is in a group with notty those are definitely inno. Unu is our most important roleblocker/gives people investigations, so he's an important investigative role for the town.
The only people there can be doubts on are Pink, Mulbery, Iggish, Foggy, and ltin, but we've confirmed the mafia kill can be roleblocked and we know foggy was roleblocked by his action, so he can't be the one who carried out the mafia kill last night. (This does not confirm foggy is innocent, he could still be mafia/third party, but it proves that even if he is mafia he isn't the last mafia). Since we know there is a mafia member who isn't foggy it makes more sense to me to aim for a threat we know exists than one we don't know exists, so I suggest not killing foggy today.
This leaves the remaining choices to be: Pink, Mulbery, Iggish, and Ltin.
Mulbery's role still seems shady given the way it was claimed, but it seems to have correctly prevented us from attempting to lynch vino, but there is a chance it was a move to look innocent when the town eventually found out, so that argument is a Wifom.
Iggish is confirmed president. The role is confirmed to exist, but the alignment is unconfirmed still. the type of role this is makes it sound townish though.
Pink has an investigative role that gives her prophecies that one of three people is a specific role. For all we know this could be a mafia investigative role, or town.
Ltin claims journalist. last night he claims to have visited mulbery. It's possible, but unlikely that a person can carry out their own role and the mafia kill, so if what he said is true he is probably not the mafia member we are looking for.
Going to wait for Mulbery's answers, but if mulbery denies having a chat with ltin then I suggest we lynch ltin and shoot Mulbery.
If not then I suggest we pick two between Iggish, mulbery, and pink.
Mulbery why haven't you revealed any information since you revealed enderfive was killed by HKCaper?
Given vino confirmed TWG and TWG is in a group with notty those are definitely inno. Unu is our most important roleblocker/gives people investigations, so he's an important investigative role for the town.
The only people there can be doubts on are Pink, Mulbery, Iggish, Foggy, and ltin, but we've confirmed the mafia kill can be roleblocked and we know foggy was roleblocked by his action, so he can't be the one who carried out the mafia kill last night. (This does not confirm foggy is innocent, he could still be mafia/third party, but it proves that even if he is mafia he isn't the last mafia). Since we know there is a mafia member who isn't foggy it makes more sense to me to aim for a threat we know exists than one we don't know exists, so I suggest not killing foggy today.
This leaves the remaining choices to be: Pink, Mulbery, Iggish, and Ltin.
Mulbery's role still seems shady given the way it was claimed, but it seems to have correctly prevented us from attempting to lynch vino, but there is a chance it was a move to look innocent when the town eventually found out, so that argument is a Wifom.
Iggish is confirmed president. The role is confirmed to exist, but the alignment is unconfirmed still. the type of role this is makes it sound townish though.
Pink has an investigative role that gives her prophecies that one of three people is a specific role. For all we know this could be a mafia investigative role, or town.
Ltin claims journalist. last night he claims to have visited mulbery. It's possible, but unlikely that a person can carry out their own role and the mafia kill, so if what he said is true he is probably not the mafia member we are looking for.
Going to wait for Mulbery's answers, but if mulbery denies having a chat with ltin then I suggest we lynch ltin and shoot Mulbery.
If not then I suggest we pick two between Iggish, mulbery, and pink.
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myusername22 Ltin did visit me last night. We didn't have much of a conversation - I told him that Hip was the devil after I attempted to decrypt the message, and he asked me about what I thought about the current players on the field.
My role allows me to sniff anyone who died on the past few nights. Night 1, no one to sniff because Night 0 doesn't exist. Night 2, sniffed ender because that was the only option, returned HK. Night 3, nothing to do because Ender was the only choice and I didn't want to sniff him again.
(woof)
My role allows me to sniff anyone who died on the past few nights. Night 1, no one to sniff because Night 0 doesn't exist. Night 2, sniffed ender because that was the only option, returned HK. Night 3, nothing to do because Ender was the only choice and I didn't want to sniff him again.
(woof)
Why are we working under the assumption Oog was probably the last mafia? This seems incredibly unlikely to me given the only other mafia was HKCaper. Unless someone can prove me wrong I'm going to say that last nights kill was bound to happen and was most likely a mafia member?
Right, so after thinking about It I don't think lynching mulb makes sense today. We should lynch between pink and Iggish.
My suggestion right now is to shoot pink. I will think about who to lynch later.
Right, so after thinking about It I don't think lynching mulb makes sense today. We should lynch between pink and Iggish.
My suggestion right now is to shoot pink. I will think about who to lynch later.
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Even though foggy was jailed yesterday I still find him really suspicious, this part in particular. I'll look into it soon because setup wise it doesn't make sense to have such a role because it seemed like we weren't supposed to know that aliens were the mafia from the start of the game, woof.
Also stop suggesting shooting me do you have no compassion?! ;-;
Nottykitten
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From the 4 suspects; Iggish, You, Foggy and Pink I find Pink to be pretty trustworthy. And considering Foggy's block now I guess it can't really be him. I'll be honest I dont *really* think it is you, which is why I think we should shoot you and not outright lynch you. You're the second suspect in my opinion right now so if it isn't Iggish then it's good the second suspect will die aswell tonight.
Besides we can afford to have 2 innocent people die. We have 9 people alive, even if you two are innocent and a third dies tonight we'll have 6 people tomorrow. If all goes well and Myuser gave the right person a gun then, we could decide who to shoot/lynch tomorrow out of Foggy/Pink/Ltin who are the ones I deem still have a small chance to be Mafia(likely Pink if it isn't You or Iggish, since Fogg was blocked and Ltin used his action on you). But again, I don't think we're gonna reach a tomorrow since I'm getting more confident it's Iggish now.
So who do you want to lynch then? There aren't much suspects left and being able to get rid of two of them is a great advantage we shouldn't throw. And if we're not lynching Iggish, if anything he should still use the gun for the sole fact that he'll be blocked tonight.
Vote Iggish
Guys I'm going to suggest something absolutely crazy, but I think we're in a rare case where it makes sense so just bear with me. We've done pretty well as a town so far, and what others are suggesting is that we just barrel using the gun and lynch to kill those suspicious. This is an idea, but I think it's pretty wasteful. Since Vino and HKCaper were reported as having the same role no matter what one of them has to be scum (I think the safe assumption was that HKCaper was mafia, but I'm writing this assuming we're wrong about assumptions). This leaves us with Hipman, Ooglie, and HKCaper as dead scum compared to two townies. This leaves us in a good standing as a town.
Right now there are a lot of claimed investigative roles on the board, and tomorrow each of them will report information. My suggestion then is to no-lynch. The mafia can only kill one person whereas if we just brute force shoot and lynch our way through we're throwing away information and people (in addition to the person the mafia will kill anyway). Sure, we might have the lynches on innocent townies, but killing innocent townies will not yield as much information.
90% of the time this helps the mafia, but there are so many claimed investigative roles that this is an exception which can only help us.
vote no-lynch
Right now there are a lot of claimed investigative roles on the board, and tomorrow each of them will report information. My suggestion then is to no-lynch. The mafia can only kill one person whereas if we just brute force shoot and lynch our way through we're throwing away information and people (in addition to the person the mafia will kill anyway). Sure, we might have the lynches on innocent townies, but killing innocent townies will not yield as much information.
90% of the time this helps the mafia, but there are so many claimed investigative roles that this is an exception which can only help us.
vote no-lynch
Nottykitten
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The only thing I see this doing is make this game twice as long as it needs to be. And what are you even expecting? Unu is going to die tonight 100%, Mul's 'tracking' will give us a list of 50% of the players which will likely just give us the same suspects as now (*cough* iggish *cough*) and there is a pretty high chance the hallucination unu will give confirms someone we already find innocent.
Pretty sure we can more easely win by just killing off our small pool of suspects, instead of being in a very similar situation tomorrow. Tell me, who do you think are innocent in your eyes and who are suspects.
Hmm, I would be more up for a Ltin lynch than Iggish. Also, Iggish can shoot someone (even the one we are lynching) and get role blocked. Also, wouldnt it make more sense for the mafias to kill Mulbery this night, since he can investigate Vino's death?
So the two messages I received N1 & N2 are (I have to edit words because Inffy says I can't just cut and paste):
N1 'oh we should probably reveal what our role can do'
N2 'We should maybe just kill him. He's almost definitely a PR as he is able to visit people after dark.'
N1 'oh we should probably reveal what our role can do'
N2 'We should maybe just kill him. He's almost definitely a PR as he is able to visit people after dark.'
I still feel a no lynch would be the best option at this point. Of course, we would lynch someone tomorrow, but if this third mafia isn't the last threat the extra info will be useful in a future day. Plus, I'm not sure we'll be able to agree who among the 4 we should lynch.
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