ZUPLAR INVASION - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN

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Hmm, well if Mulb is telling the truth then Vino is in the clear for now. Also Notty I feel if the lynch is going to be on Ooglie I'd rather use my weapon on someone I think to be the devil so we can get rid of two possible mafia in one day so I'll see where voting goes. Also I only have the weapon for one day so I can't hold off and return it later
 

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Hmm, well if Mulb is telling the truth then Vino is in the clear for now. Also Notty I feel if the lynch is going to be on Ooglie I'd rather use my weapon on someone I think to be the devil so we can get rid of two possible mafia in one day so I'll see where voting goes. Also I only have the weapon for one day so I can't hold off and return it later
I mean the entire point of having the gun, is that as town we can come to a decision to lynch someone but instead of lynching that person he/she can be shot. Then we as town can argue more and decide on a second person. I don't think it's a smart move as town to lynch someone and have you kill someone you believe is guilty.
 

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Have been working on a post and I will continue working on it but first I want to interject with something really suspicious here.
I mean the entire point of having the gun, is that as town we can come to a decision to lynch someone but instead of lynching that person he/she can be shot. Then we as town can argue more and decide on a second person. I don't think it's a smart move as town to lynch someone and have you kill someone you believe is guilty.
Foggy never said it was a gun. How did you know he has a gun? I think this might be a slip.
 

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Have been working on a post and I will continue working on it but first I want to interject with something really suspicious here.

Foggy never said it was a gun. How did you know he has a gun? I think this might be a slip.
A weapon that can kill someone is generally a gun in Mafia games, usually by a gunsmith.
 

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Okay, so lots of interesting stuff going on today. I'm still waiting to hear the prophecy from pink, so I think it's best we avoid getting into a lynch until everyone has had a chance to talk, (we still might not have a story from everyone who's had interesting stuff happen to them tonight.) but I think this is a lot of information we can use to speculate some basic information from.

yesterday we knew that either vino or Hkcaper is lying since they both claimed the same name. Hkcaper has flipped town, so it's highly suspect that vino could be mafia. If vino is mafia then the hallucination could mean anything as it's likely he could've swapped out the name to literally anyone in the game to avoid giving the town information (He could've left it where it was, or he could've switched it to his mafia buddy to confirm him inno, who knows)

However, the way in which vino claimed is very strange. He counter claimed not
Okay, so lots of interesting stuff going on today. I'm still waiting to hear the prophecy from pink, so I think it's best we avoid getting into a lynch until everyone has had a chance to talk, (we still might not have a story from everyone who's had interesting stuff happen to them tonight.) but I think this is a lot of information we can use to speculate some basic information from.

yesterday we knew that either vino or Hkcaper is lying since they both claimed the same name. Hkcaper has flipped town, so it's highly suspect that vino could be mafia. If vino is mafia then the hallucination could mean anything as it's likely he could've swapped out the name to literally anyone in the game to avoid giving the town information (He could've left it where it was, or he could've switched it to his mafia buddy to confirm him inno, who knows)

However, the way in which vino claimed is very strange. He counter claimed not just the
just the role, but the name. This is generally suicidal for a mafia member to do as it would take it to a 50/50 between him and Hkcaper. However It seems to be working well for him, so he might've just known he could probably pull it off. would be a risky move for a mafia player, but I think he's skilled enough to try it.

He could also be a 3rd party with some strange win condition that lynching hkcaper helped him towards. That's also possible.

Mulberrys claim is that HKCaper killed ender, so it seems that while not confirming him, it highly suggests vino is town. Unless we find evidence to the contrary I think we can safely believe vino is town sided. Therefore, at this moment we should assume TWG is innocent based on the hallucination vino had.

If we run with this assumption this would also mean that TWG cannot be the devil, so the claim about being visited by the devil is also legit.

This means that notty did not make up the part about being visited by the devil like we suspected yesterday.

I've had this theory for a while now that notty's role might not be scribe, but might be a mafia role that automatically encodes the death messages while she is alive, but that can't be true when she was roleblocked n1

another interesting element: since unusual dood visited ooglie then ooglie cannot be the devil since he was roleblocked (unless there is an option not to take the drugs? I may have missed that part if that is an option, could someone please clarify that for me? thanks)

people have mentioned that the mafia kill is a night action carried out by a mafia member (as opposed to the death just magically happening with a consenus from the mafia and not being blockable) This is further suggested by mulberry's claim. For this reason it's likely Ooglie could've been the mafia kill, but there could be other roles that had this effect and we can't know for sure.
 

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Anyway, I've got important information from last night, but in order for me to tell that to y'all I must claim (again!) Don't worry I'm still a dog.

I'm the Tracker Dog. I have to, as part of my role, insert "bark" or "woof" in every single post I make on this thread, either directly or by quoting myself. In addition, I do have a night action. Every night, I may choose to go to the graveyard and sniff a dead person that has been killed. I then receive a report on the second day that tells me:
  • The killer of that person, if that killer is dead.
  • Otherwise, a list of living players of which one of them is the real killer. (The size of that list is 50% the number of living players)
  • If I sniff the same player multiple times in a row, I am able to narrow that percentage down to 25% and so on.

Night 1, I was forced to sniff Enderfive because I had no choice, and it turned out that the killer was HKCaper, who was dead. He couldn't have killed as a watcher, which means he was probably a tailor and was chosen by mafia to execute the kill just in case he was lynched.

tl;dr: HK killed Ender so Vino isn't lying.
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What did you do last night, and in what way is HKCaper 50% of the number of living players.

2. how could HK know the name of the role he would appear as?
 

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Okay, so lots of interesting stuff going on today. I'm still waiting to hear the prophecy from pink, so I think it's best we avoid getting into a lynch until everyone has had a chance to talk, (we still might not have a story from everyone who's had interesting stuff happen to them tonight.) but I think this is a lot of information we can use to speculate some basic information from.

yesterday we knew that either vino or Hkcaper is lying since they both claimed the same name. Hkcaper has flipped town, so it's highly suspect that vino could be mafia. If vino is mafia then the hallucination could mean anything as it's likely he could've swapped out the name to literally anyone in the game to avoid giving the town information (He could've left it where it was, or he could've switched it to his mafia buddy to confirm him inno, who knows)

However, the way in which vino claimed is very strange. He counter claimed not
Okay, so lots of interesting stuff going on today. I'm still waiting to hear the prophecy from pink, so I think it's best we avoid getting into a lynch until everyone has had a chance to talk, (we still might not have a story from everyone who's had interesting stuff happen to them tonight.) but I think this is a lot of information we can use to speculate some basic information from.

yesterday we knew that either vino or Hkcaper is lying since they both claimed the same name. Hkcaper has flipped town, so it's highly suspect that vino could be mafia. If vino is mafia then the hallucination could mean anything as it's likely he could've swapped out the name to literally anyone in the game to avoid giving the town information (He could've left it where it was, or he could've switched it to his mafia buddy to confirm him inno, who knows)

However, the way in which vino claimed is very strange. He counter claimed not just the
Are you ok?
 

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What did you do last night, and in what way is HKCaper 50% of the number of living players.

2. how could HK know the name of the role he would appear as?
Well he said that if the killer is dead, he would get the name. If the killer is still alive then he would get 50% of the living players. Also Hk was likely a shapeshifter or something, we're up against aliens after all!

Sorry Just thinking out loud. That first half of the post makes no sense when considering Mulberry's claim, and I have acknowledged this.
Read the first part of your post again, something went horribly wrong.
 

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Okay, so lots of interesting stuff going on today. I'm still waiting to hear the prophecy from pink, so I think it's best we avoid getting into a lynch until everyone has had a chance to talk, (we still might not have a story from everyone who's had interesting stuff happen to them tonight.) but I think this is a lot of information we can use to speculate some basic information from.

yesterday we knew that either vino or Hkcaper is lying since they both claimed the same name. Hkcaper has flipped town, so it's highly suspect that vino could be mafia. If vino is mafia then the hallucination could mean anything as it's likely he could've swapped out the name to literally anyone in the game to avoid giving the town information (He could've left it where it was, or he could've switched it to his mafia buddy to confirm him inno, who knows)

However, the way in which vino claimed is very strange. He counter claimed not
Okay, so lots of interesting stuff going on today. I'm still waiting to hear the prophecy from pink, so I think it's best we avoid getting into a lynch until everyone has had a chance to talk, (we still might not have a story from everyone who's had interesting stuff happen to them tonight.) but I think this is a lot of information we can use to speculate some basic information from.

yesterday we knew that either vino or Hkcaper is lying since they both claimed the same name. Hkcaper has flipped town, so it's highly suspect that vino could be mafia. If vino is mafia then the hallucination could mean anything as it's likely he could've swapped out the name to literally anyone in the game to avoid giving the town information (He could've left it where it was, or he could've switched it to his mafia buddy to confirm him inno, who knows)

However, the way in which vino claimed is very strange. He counter claimed not just the
just the role, but the name. This is generally suicidal for a mafia member to do as it would take it to a 50/50 between him and Hkcaper. However It seems to be working well for him, so he might've just known he could probably pull it off. would be a risky move for a mafia player, but I think he's skilled enough to try it.

He could also be a 3rd party with some strange win condition that lynching hkcaper helped him towards. That's also possible.

Mulberrys claim is that HKCaper killed ender, so it seems that while not confirming him, it highly suggests vino is town. Unless we find evidence to the contrary I think we can safely believe vino is town sided. Therefore, at this moment we should assume TWG is innocent based on the hallucination vino had.

If we run with this assumption this would also mean that TWG cannot be the devil, so the claim about being visited by the devil is also legit.

This means that notty did not make up the part about being visited by the devil like we suspected yesterday.

I've had this theory for a while now that notty's role might not be scribe, but might be a mafia role that automatically encodes the death messages while she is alive, but that can't be true when she was roleblocked n1

another interesting element: since unusual dood visited ooglie then ooglie cannot be the devil since he was roleblocked (unless there is an option not to take the drugs? I may have missed that part if that is an option, could someone please clarify that for me? thanks)

people have mentioned that the mafia kill is a night action carried out by a mafia member (as opposed to the death just magically happening with a consenus from the mafia and not being blockable) This is further suggested by mulberry's claim. For this reason it's likely Ooglie could've been the mafia kill, but there could be other roles that had this effect and we can't know for sure.
I got deja vu reading this post
 

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What did you do last night, and in what way is HKCaper 50% of the number of living players.

2. how could HK know the name of the role he would appear as?
If the player who killed is dead, Mulb will get the name. If the player is alive Mulb will get a list with 50% of the remaining players, where one was the killer.

Also, can someone explain how tailor works?
 

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Currently, reading through the claims and seeing if I believe everybody and the stories told. I'm pretty sure Oog might be mafia due to the role block and that Hip is the devil, as most other people have claimed. So currently I am looking at one of those two people or both of them to be killed during the night
 

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What do you mean during the night. Mind explaining more about this weapon?
I meant during the day xD and this weapon was given to me at the start of the day (I don't know who gave it to me) and got told if I used it I would be unable to use a night action, this doesn't really effect me so I'm happy to use it against somebody I feel is suspicious along with the backing of the town
 
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I don't believe a word Mulbery has said.

How could HK know someone else's name?

mucho suppish
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not, but regardless of that I'll expand on what I said earlier a bit.

I didn't get a list because it was impossible to get a list of 50% of living players containing the killer (because the killer was dead and any combination of 6 living players would not contain the killer), which resulted in HK's name being the only name that turned up. I didn't know about this part of my role until today.

There are reasons to believe why Vino is not lying and HK is Anti-town. Analyzing HK you see that:

HK was so confident yesterday with that claim, and I was guessing this was on two accounts: First, he received the exact name and role of this tailor target on night 1, and second, even if he were to be lynched he would die as a Watcher, causing town to waste their vote on Vino.

Notice how he joke claimed burrito and avoided questions when the idea of him being a tailor was brought up? There was literally no reason for him to do that if he were town, and though not indicative, he had no reason to overreact or panic like that.

I was reluctant to claim because it really does seem like it was just convenient to do so for some ulterior motive, but if you think about it it is a valid strategy on the mafia's part, to have a tailor execute a mafia kill, assuming that the mafia chooses someone to execute the kill every night. A valid strategy that, if executed correctly, would've worked.

(woof)
 

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I meant during the day xD and this weapon was given to me at the start of the day (I don't know who gave it to me) and got told if I used it I would be unable to use a night action, this doesn't really effect me so I'm happy to use it against somebody I feel is suspicious along with the backing of the town
Whoops sorry. I hadn't finished up reading the new posts. Just from the way you said it earlier I thought you'd shoot the person during the day, and then they'd bleed out during the night.
 
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