ZUPLAR INVASION - GAME OVER - TOWN WIN

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What are you talking about? My entire post above explains a list of people I had been considering, and reasoning as to why I couldn't trust they were town.
But why would you choose someone who you have no idea what orientation they are, you're just guessing, and has no idea what functions their role has? The way I see it you had two reasonable options:
1. Give the gun to someone pretty much confirmed town with no suspicion (Pink or Mulb, both who you didn't mention in your post).
2. Give it to someone who was likely town but you didn't really trust them (Say Notty or TWG)
I understand you not trusting some people but either Pink and Mulb were kind of proven.
I mean, surely you must agree that giving a gun to someone who had not claimed because you guessed what role they'd be... Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, ffs I get it now, you were guessing between myself and foggy. I forgot about Pink's prophecy.
This kind of makes all my points useless...

If you want I'll respond to your points against me, otherwise I won't.
 

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Ok so since Foggy said that he's not the President I guess everyone knows so I' might aswell claim.
Hullo, I am The President. Despite what the name suggests, it's not really a PR. Even though it's not a PR the name might suggest a PR and the mafia might've thought that I was lying about my "powers" and have targeted me as a result, that is why I didn't claim earlier on.
So, on to what my role does, I have the power to anonymously send an announcement via Inf to be read aloud at any time. Ltin visited me last night and the Ltin corporation products message was my way of proving to Ltin what my role was.

I guess I'll give an example of my announcement. I'll set it for being read out asap, just depends on what Inf sees it.
 

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Eh, I don't know why you two are doing this since Myu is un-CC'd gunner and you're President by elimination, woof.
I just found his choice of Foggy confusing but now I know that it was a 50-50 between me and foggy so it's understandable.
I found it suspicious so I called him out on it. As for him being the unclaimed gun person, we basically now know everyone's roles but not their orientations, so naturally if I find someone suspicious, I'll start to being to think that they are mafia.
 

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If foggy is devil than no one loses their soul tonight from him being prisoner.
May I say, that if Hip does not turn out to be the devil and nobody gets visited by the devil that does not confirm that I am satan... I mean the Devil could just not kill having seen this post or could be role blocked, I will admit it increases the chances of me being the Devil and having the most suspicion, however, it does not confirm.
 
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Right so I'll just make a list of roles, woof.

Proven
Notty (Scribe, for posting the image before, Ltin (Journalist, confirmed by Notty and Iggs), Ender (Medic, for dying), Pink (Prophet, for her President Dream), Unu (Drug Dealer, confirmed by Vino), Iggs (President, for sending out narcissistic announcement)

Claimed, can be disproven
Myu (Gunner, by counterclaim), Mulb (Tracker Dog, by Vino flipping anti-town), Vino (Watcher, by CC)

Inferred
HK (Tailor, by Mulb's Tracker report)

Unknown
Fog, Oog, Hip

Think that's about it.
 

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But why would you choose someone who you have no idea what orientation they are, you're just guessing, and has no idea what functions their role has? The way I see it you had two reasonable options:
1. Give the gun to someone pretty much confirmed town with no suspicion (Pink or Mulb, both who you didn't mention in your post).
2. Give it to someone who was likely town but you didn't really trust them (Say Notty or TWG)
I understand you not trusting some people but either Pink and Mulb were kind of proven.
I mean, surely you must agree that giving a gun to someone who had not claimed because you guessed what role they'd be... Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, ffs I get it now, you were guessing between myself and foggy. I forgot about Pink's prophecy.
This kind of makes all my points useless...

If you want I'll respond to your points against me, otherwise I won't.
Exactly. I didn't pick pink or mulb because there were no outside factors confirming their actual alignment, just the role was likely, but i didn't know if they could be mafia or 3rd parties with the same actions they claimed, so I felt like if I aimed for them I might as well be aiming for a random player.

Both you and foggy were avoiding claiming president despite it already being a 50/50 between you so I assumed it was an important town power role, and I tried to avoid attracting attention to the role today when I was responding to you.

Obviously, I picked wrong when choosing who to give the gun to, but with neither you or foggy claiming president it occurred to me that foggy could be lying about not being president to confuse the mafia. For this reason I wasn't sure until you hard claimed just now that you are the president.

I apologize for the confusion, and I don't think it's necessary for you to respond to my points against you unless you feel the need to. I haven't played this game in a while and I'm not reading people as well as I'd like to think. I am concerned by how it felt more like you were trying to attack me by ignoring the order in which evidence occured in the post above, but I think we should move on.

Legitimately, I had felt like Foggy was coming off as town to me. He did exactly what I would expect him to as I probably would have told him to shoot Ooglie anyway, but It's highly concerning to me that he just went out and shot ooglie101 without waiting for him to give us his hallucination. If ooglie is town then it's in his best interest to give us his hallucination, if he is mafia, then I think he may just be pissed off with the game and drop off the face of the earth no matter how much we ping him. I'll be honest when I say I'm not sure if we should just keep waiting or try to move on with this day.
 

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Right so I'll just make a list of roles, woof.

Proven
Notty (Scribe, for posting the image before, Ltin (Journalist, confirmed by Notty and Iggs), Ender (Medic, for dying), Pink (Prophet, for her President Dream), Unu (Drug Dealer, confirmed by Vino), Iggs (President, for sending out narcissistic announcement)

Claimed, can be disproven
Myu (Gunner, by counterclaim), Mulb (Tracker Dog, by Vino flipping anti-town), Vino (Watcher, by CC)

Inferred
HK (Tailor, by Mulb's Tracker report)

Unknown
Fog, Oog, Hip

Think that's about it.
I don't wanna be that guy but in a closed set up it's hard for someone to be 100% proven. I mean to give an example, Ltin may not necessarily be a journalist, it's just what he told notty and myself when he visited us. He could have another action or something, which I highly doubt but still, it's hard to 100% prove someone without a prophecy, a death or a proving action.
I'm not trying to be cynical, just pointing something out which I felt was important to point out. I do believe that Ltin is the journalist btw, I was just giving an example.
 

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Anyone else who get some vibes from Foggy? I think that he could possibly be the devil, but I think we should wait the night to see if anyone got an offer from him.

hip havent really said anything, so I don't really know what to think of him. Personally I'd prefer lynching Ooglie but since hes dying anyway (cuz doc ded) theres really no point in that

Also iggy, is your only role to let Inf speak for you? Is that it?
 
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I don't wanna be that guy but in a closed set up it's hard for someone to be 100% proven. I mean to give an example, Ltin may not necessarily be a journalist, it's just what he told notty and myself when he visited us. He could have another action or something, which I highly doubt but still, it's hard to 100% prove someone without a prophecy, a death or a proving action.
I'm not trying to be cynical, just pointing something out which I felt was important to point out. I do believe that Ltin is the journalist btw, I was just giving an example.
That's true, but we know for a fact that Ltin has a night action that involves visiting people and talking to them, and that visit is not harmful to the target, so unless he has some sort of secondary action he's basically proven. Many of the roles here are proven either because they're dead, or because they were able to obtain information by virtue of their role - Notty knew the alien alphabet before it was revealed to us, Pink knew the existence of the President before we did, etc.

Also I've been wondering what Notty's messages mean, woof. The "Other species" seem to refer to the human race, which would mean that the whole text is told from an extraterrestrial perspective where "our race" refers to the aliens themselves. "metaphorical" seems to suggest that Vino's dreams (and Oog's though I suppose that'd be a lost cause trying to get him to say it) hold meaning beyond just the good and bad, though it's not immediately obvious when it comes to "chemically-induced" who exactly is the person who administers the chemicals - humans or extraterrestrials. It's not immediately clear where the mafia would come into play and whether extraterrestrials are the mafia here, so to say the least I'm inclined to think that these messages are probably supposed to be helpful but they're more confusing than anything.

Anyone else who get some vibes from Foggy? I think that he could possibly be the devil, but I think we should wait the night to see if anyone got an offer from him.

hip havent really said anything, so I don't really know what to think of him. Personally I'd prefer lynching Ooglie but since hes dying anyway (cuz doc ded) theres really no point in that

Also iggy, is your only role to let Inf speak for you? Is that it?
It helps him to speak to town anonymously and provides town a perspective from someone whom they know for a fact is town-sided, although it hasn't really been used that way.
 

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People have questioned about whether my alignment is town or mafia. For those, I have a good message, I can confirm that I am 100% town.
(For real, how do you want me to confirm town?)

I am at the moment suspicious of Hip, Oog and Foggy. I believe these three are the last threats to town, but I guess we will see after this night. I will be up for a Hip lynch today, since he isnt contributing and is one of those who I find most scummy of the three.

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Also if this day+night goes our way, we might win at next day with only one dead townie :D
 
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Also if this day+night goes our way, we might win at next day with only one dead townie :D
I doubt we'd have a kill tonight unless Ooglie can somehow kill while still bleeding, given how Hip's probably going to be lynched, Fog can't do anything, and we sorta know what everyone else does, woof.

If we do get a nightkill, then that would be very interesting.
 
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