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Played 10 games as twitch, 8 of them being in the mid lane:
Its really good. If you take E at lvl 1, go for an early auto (or two) plus an E. As soon as you hit lvl 2 go all in with ignite
How did you make you past matches show up like that since the only way I've seen is to go to match history and it doesn't even let me see details.
 

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Played 10 games as twitch, 8 of them being in the mid lane:
Its really good. If you take E at lvl 1, go for an early auto (or two) plus an E. As soon as you hit lvl 2 go all in with ignite
How did you make you past matches show up like that since the only way I've seen is to go to match history and it doesn't even let me see details.
lolking.com
 

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Played 10 games as twitch, 8 of them being in the mid lane:
Its really good. If you take E at lvl 1, go for an early auto (or two) plus an E. As soon as you hit lvl 2 go all in with ignite
How did you make you past matches show up like that since the only way I've seen is to go to match history and it doesn't even let me see details.
lolking.com

http://www.lolking.net/summoner/na/43214794#history

FTFY
 

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"The ELO range where you are visibly more skilled than the players around you but not by a wide enough margin to consistently carry them single-handedly."
Honestly the absolute BEST definition I have EVER heard for ELO hell, and no one can deny this is a thing, when taking the definition into account.
Thats not ELO Hell, thats where you belong.
ELO Hell shouldnt be ELO Hell, honestly its Division Hell. Bronze 5, Silver 5, Gold 5, Plat 5, Diamond 5 (a little) is full of trolls and bads that deserve to be lower than they really are (if they cant get up anyways).

What you quoted isnt an area where you cant get out and you're stuck because your teams are bad, its a place you are because you need to improve to get out. :l
 

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"The ELO range where you are visibly more skilled than the players around you but not by a wide enough margin to consistently carry them single-handedly."
Honestly the absolute BEST definition I have EVER heard for ELO hell, and no one can deny this is a thing, when taking the definition into account.
Thats not ELO Hell, thats where you belong.
ELO Hell shouldnt be ELO Hell, honestly its Division Hell. Bronze 5, Silver 5, Gold 5, Plat 5, Diamond 5 (a little) is full of trolls and bads that deserve to be lower than they really are (if they cant get up anyways).

What you quoted isnt an area where you cant get out and you're stuck because your teams are bad, its a place you are because you need to improve to get out. :l
If you're better than your teams, but you can't 1v5, is that not ELO hell? The only reason you call it Division Hell is because of the change in ranked system. The reason I like the definition is because it says you are better than your teammates consistently but not that you can always win by yourself.
 

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"The ELO range where you are visibly more skilled than the players around you but not by a wide enough margin to consistently carry them single-handedly."
Honestly the absolute BEST definition I have EVER heard for ELO hell, and no one can deny this is a thing, when taking the definition into account.
Thats not ELO Hell, thats where you belong.
ELO Hell shouldnt be ELO Hell, honestly its Division Hell. Bronze 5, Silver 5, Gold 5, Plat 5, Diamond 5 (a little) is full of trolls and bads that deserve to be lower than they really are (if they cant get up anyways).

What you quoted isnt an area where you cant get out and you're stuck because your teams are bad, its a place you are because you need to improve to get out. :l
If you're better than your teams, but you can't 1v5, is that not ELO hell? The only reason you call it Division Hell is because of the change in ranked system. The reason I like the definition is because it says you are better than your teammates consistently but not that you can always win by yourself.
If you are playing a carry position and you can't out-carry the enemy carry, you are where you belong. You should NEVER be able to 1v5, thats not how league works :l.
TL;DR if you are better than your teams but you can't carry them then you need to improve thus being where you currently belong.
 

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Thats not ELO Hell, thats where you belong.
ELO Hell shouldnt be ELO Hell, honestly its Division Hell. Bronze 5, Silver 5, Gold 5, Plat 5, Diamond 5 (a little) is full of trolls and bads that deserve to be lower than they really are (if they cant get up anyways).

What you quoted isnt an area where you cant get out and you're stuck because your teams are bad, its a place you are because you need to improve to get out. :l
If you're better than your teams, but you can't 1v5, is that not ELO hell? The only reason you call it Division Hell is because of the change in ranked system. The reason I like the definition is because it says you are better than your teammates consistently but not that you can always win by yourself.
If you are playing a carry position and you can't out-carry the enemy carry, you are where you belong. You should NEVER be able to 1v5, thats not how league works :l.
TL;DR if you are better than your teams but you can't carry them then you need to improve thus being where you currently belong.
One carry, or champion does not win the game. If I beat Cait as Vayne leaving lane, let's say 4/1 with 112 cs to her 82 cs, and my midlane is 1/3 and my toplane 2/4 and my jungle 0/4 then why does that say I'm exactly where I need to be? I'm better than them, so I should be higher where people are at my level. Not where I'm carrying them, not where I'm being carried, but where everyone is the same.
 

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If you're better than your teams, but you can't 1v5, is that not ELO hell? The only reason you call it Division Hell is because of the change in ranked system. The reason I like the definition is because it says you are better than your teammates consistently but not that you can always win by yourself.
If you are playing a carry position and you can't out-carry the enemy carry, you are where you belong. You should NEVER be able to 1v5, thats not how league works :l.
TL;DR if you are better than your teams but you can't carry them then you need to improve thus being where you currently belong.
One carry, or champion does not win the game. If I beat Cait as Vayne leaving lane, let's say 4/1 with 112 cs to her 82 cs, and my midlane is 1/3 and my toplane 2/4 and my jungle 0/4 then why does that say I'm exactly where I need to be? I'm better than them, so I should be higher where people are at my level. Not where I'm carrying them, not where I'm being carried, but where everyone is the same.
So if i was in bronze 4 and i claimed i was in elo hell because i cant carry my teams as fed vayne because they are all bad and im good you would believe me?
Fair enough. Not gonna try to change your opinion. but your opinion is wrong
 

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If you are playing a carry position and you can't out-carry the enemy carry, you are where you belong. You should NEVER be able to 1v5, thats not how league works :l.
TL;DR if you are better than your teams but you can't carry them then you need to improve thus being where you currently belong.
One carry, or champion does not win the game. If I beat Cait as Vayne leaving lane, let's say 4/1 with 112 cs to her 82 cs, and my midlane is 1/3 and my toplane 2/4 and my jungle 0/4 then why does that say I'm exactly where I need to be? I'm better than them, so I should be higher where people are at my level. Not where I'm carrying them, not where I'm being carried, but where everyone is the same.
So if i was in bronze 4 and i claimed i was in elo hell because i cant carry my teams as fed vayne because they are all bad and im good you would believe me?
Fair enough. Not gonna try to change your opinion. but your opinion is wrong
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One carry, or champion does not win the game. If I beat Cait as Vayne leaving lane, let's say 4/1 with 112 cs to her 82 cs, and my midlane is 1/3 and my toplane 2/4 and my jungle 0/4 then why does that say I'm exactly where I need to be? I'm better than them, so I should be higher where people are at my level. Not where I'm carrying them, not where I'm being carried, but where everyone is the same.
So if i was in bronze 4 and i claimed i was in elo hell because i cant carry my teams as fed vayne because they are all bad and im good you would believe me?
Fair enough. Not gonna try to change your opinion. but your opinion is wrong,/spoiler]
Yes
If you are a fed vayne you still can't 1v5 the enemy team. You need your team mates help through them soaking up damage, them peeling for you, and them CCing the enemy team. Even a 0-10 Lee Sin can still be good for something.

Carrying a game is not being fed to 1v5, or even 1v3 for that matter. Carrying is winning your lane hard and fast enough to spread your influence to the other 2 lanes before those lanes lose. That means to carry you need to kill, push, take tower, push to inner turret, roam, kill mid, take dragon, counter-jungle, etc.
 

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So if i was in bronze 4 and i claimed i was in elo hell because i cant carry my teams as fed vayne because they are all bad and im good you would believe me?
Fair enough. Not gonna try to change your opinion. but your opinion is wrong,/spoiler]
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If you are a fed vayne you still can't 1v5 the enemy team. You need your team mates help through them soaking up damage, them peeling for you, and them CCing the enemy team. Even a 0-10 Lee Sin can still be good for something.

Carrying a game is not being fed to 1v5, or even 1v3 for that matter. Carrying is winning your lane hard and fast enough to spread your influence to the other 2 lanes before those lanes lose. That means to carry you need to kill, push, take tower, push to inner turret, roam, kill mid, take dragon, counter-jungle, etc.
I never once said in that post that you should be able to 1v5. Im agreeing with you, thats how you carry. I was saying that jay is basically validating all low elo players to claim that they are in 'elo hell' because they cant CARRY (NOT 1v5 I NEVER SAID THAT) their team/against the enemy team.
 
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