MEDIEVAL MAFIA: INTRUSION [DAY 8]
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Finally caught up; dang you guys type a lot.
Now this is sudden to go out and attempt to sway a new vote, but I dislike the way that Prizyms has been playing this game. Through the last few posts he has seemed detached and attempting to "prod the sleeping bear" while he hides in the bushes.
This quote was what really made me look back in surprise at how he acted in this game. He is acting just as Gmk stated a mafia player would play. Throw in some information and then step back and "watch the fireworks"
He then comes out with his random vote on Jivvi and then decides to leave the rest to us for looking up information on Jivvi.
Lastly he comes up with this plan that does nothing, but provide the mafia with a hit list. He doesn't care about how the game turns out seeming to be more random and detached from the game than actually playing it.
Now this is sudden to go out and attempt to sway a new vote, but I dislike the way that Prizyms has been playing this game. Through the last few posts he has seemed detached and attempting to "prod the sleeping bear" while he hides in the bushes.
This quote was what really made me look back in surprise at how he acted in this game. He is acting just as Gmk stated a mafia player would play. Throw in some information and then step back and "watch the fireworks"
He then comes out with his random vote on Jivvi and then decides to leave the rest to us for looking up information on Jivvi.
Lastly he comes up with this plan that does nothing, but provide the mafia with a hit list. He doesn't care about how the game turns out seeming to be more random and detached from the game than actually playing it.
Alright looks like the day ends in less than 24 hours. Had to do a bit of re-reading but i think im gonna agree with the lynch on GmK. Mostly for reasons stated already so no reason to restate them
Also want to point out that so far my FoS otherwise mostly falls on Notty and anorso
Vote GmK
Also want to point out that so far my FoS otherwise mostly falls on Notty and anorso
Vote GmK
hopefully this will help:
Ok, some of my opinions on the things that are happening currently. As I see it, we have a few simultaneous things going on, and are actually playing into the hand of scum, since we're all over the place. All they have to do currently is lean back, poke at things a bit, and see the town disintegrate itself...
1. Notty vs Me
Well, anyone of us that voted for Road looks suspicious, especially me since I started the first vote on him. Can't deny that. Compared to the other Road voters, I did give sound reasoning though at the time for why I did what I did. This can't be said for others like e.g. Da Jinks (I'll get to him in a bit).
So, Notty, your first point of me starting the vote on Road is correct, the way you phrase it is a pure interpretation only (which is what one does in Mafia :D). Your second point is of course utter speculation which you luckily cannot prove (and I unfortunately cannot de-prove, except say it).
Like you say, what you got isn't much, and at this point I am not taking your vote on me seriousley, sorry, no offense.
Except of course if you are a lurking scum and are trying to get at me. We shouldn't rule that out at this stage. It would make sense under the aspect of your vote being nonsensical, as one can easily hide real motives behind making a vote seem more out of fun than seriousness.
So, notty, are you scum?
2. Jivvi
I was surprised to see Prizyms' vote. But it also got me thinking:
Jivvi has always been present in the game, but has seldomly come out with info by himself. So far it's been "I'll ask some questions for you all to answer", followed by a waiting game and nonsensical offtopic posts, followed by jumping on an opportunistic bandwagon. I actually see it as a quite likely possibillity, that Jivvi could be scum, using usual behavior as a facade to hide motives.
This. The one moment someone does mention you could be scum, you get extremely defensive, fighting your way out of a situation that has not yet even occured.
Plausible Deniability? You discredit the vote on you by saying that is has no basis. That would be fine if there wasn't a basis. But there very well is, and it's imho more scummy to try and discredit a voter than to try and work with what they stated.
3. myusername22
Now that is just terrible. I hope a bit it was due to the time being 1am or something for you, but this alone would give me reason to immediately vote you.Yes I kind of trapped myself into a corner here. I feel soon both the town and mafia are going to try to kill me. I know myself to be town but I'm not sure I can convince many others of this. I also think I may have made myself a target of the mafia by trying to help out (I don't know what criteria they are trying to lynch first)
I don't feel I'll make it much longer in this game.
oddly enough, there isn't a single capital letter in my name. It would be alright to capitalize the first word but the second? you could be dramatizing it to make me look more suspicious (maybe)
this must be a really funny coincidence. Because around the same day I start to feel like a mafia target, someones pushing on me within the town. Seems a tad convenient, Doesn't it?
Dramatizing to make you look suspicious by mis-spelling your name? While yes, Hype has said something quite weird:
(I dont get this, when and why and how has myuser been a mafia target? How would you know? This has sort of been cleared up in the last few posts, but at that point it was really out of place and sudden), your own post is weirder.
And then you go on to almost admit defeat with your "I don't feel I'll make it much longer". You are asking for mercy since you feel like a victim that isn't able to defend itself any more. Emotional appealing won't help you, so if you are indeed town as you say you are, DO something to prove it, and don't just hope people will have pity. Because if you do, we might just as well lynch you today...
4. Da Jinks
Now, with this one I'm going out on a limb. We have a player, that has been mostly inactive, but always present just at the right time to post a vote or a statement like "I've not been here, soorryyyyy" and managed to fly under the radar very very well. Yes, others have also flown under the radar (quite a few actually), but they don't post sudden votes without anything substantial:
Da Jinks - buddy, give me a reason to take back the following (or a reason not to)
vote Da Jinks
this has been bugging me for quite a while now!!! it does in some ways feel like he's poking at his best options because he can. But it's worse than that this feels like he's trying to do more than share his suspicions it feels like he's trying to make everyone suspicious and point some pretty big arrows to see where he can push people in to lynch.
after 10 minutes of searching through 10 pages i can't seem to find the quote i wanted to use so i'm just going to come out and say it.
Look closely at what gmk says. if you look closely it looks like he's ridiculing everyone and mocking things wherever he get's the chance. I think he could be doing this in an attempt to down play everyone except himself. if something were to be found truly rediculous this would be acceptable but it feels like he's doing this to everyone anywhere he get's the chance. he can make some things look completely mafia then he just backs out to avoid suspicion like it was nothing. prizyms pointed out he had an unusual amount of influence on the town in the beginning and this would help explain why.
sorry i know I promised a massively huge post explaining lots of things that would probably end up getting me lynched xD. I'm sorry it's been 3 days since i made that promise but I'm ending up being either busy or tired all the time! lots of things going on lately so much to handle, when i do find the time I'm actually too tired to post (it's 2 am at the current time)
Hopefully I'll make that post soon, otherwise I'll probably end up becoming inactive.
MarsKid can we get a current vote count?
>>>>I don't think that Gmk would be scum though. He does bring up points to truly do the best for the town. Even during the Hunter vs Road debate once he figured out he was wrong on his decision for voting for Road, he did sound (i know this is text, just go with me on this one) truly remorseful. This could be because he is a skilled writer though I think he is actually a part of the town and attempts to steer us into the right direction.
>>>>On the other side of the topic we can say that he is either a third party or mafia for the fact of getting rid of the freelancer on the first day. Knowing who will replace you and your role when you die is a great opportunity if the said role is town-sided. He could have voted to get rid of the freelancer for the fact that he is thirdparty/mafia sided and decides to not announce it.
>>>>Looking back on what I just said that seems a horrible idea as well. Any way i look at the freelancer taking Gmk's role it would have been a positive mark as a whole for either group. If Gmk was mafia, dieing would help the mafia, if he was town, we would have another town.
>>>>Suspicious of Gmk, but also wary that he might be more town-sided than we think.
>>>>I don't think that Gmk would be scum though. He does bring up points to truly do the best for the town. Even during the Hunter vs Road debate once he figured out he was wrong on his decision for voting for Road, he did sound (i know this is text, just go with me on this one) truly remorseful. This could be because he is a skilled writer though I think he is actually a part of the town and attempts to steer us into the right direction.
>>>>On the other side of the topic we can say that he is either a third party or mafia for the fact of getting rid of the freelancer on the first day. Knowing who will replace you and your role when you die is a great opportunity if the said role is town-sided. He could have voted to get rid of the freelancer for the fact that he is thirdparty/mafia sided and decides to not announce it.
>>>>Looking back on what I just said that seems a horrible idea as well. Any way i look at the freelancer taking Gmk's role it would have been a positive mark as a whole for either group. If Gmk was mafia, dieing would help the mafia, if he was town, we would have another town.
>>>>Suspicious of Gmk, but also wary that he might be more town-sided than we think.
...This...just gives me a bigger reason why you should be my No. 1 prime suspect. The whole tone of your post simply sound like you are trying to frame Gmk in anyway, not the other way around. As compared to Gmk's reasoning his points make much more sense than your reasoning.
Let's start from the first part of your post:
I don't believe you. If it has been bugging you for "quite a while", as you phrase it, I'm pretty sure there will be a certain post that has made the biggest impression upon you that you would remember, be it vaguely or vividly. Which would mean it would be easy browsing through the pages to find that certain post that has been bugging you. Yet you took 10 minutes and you can't find the quote you wanted to use, instead starts using the Gmk quote that I used, quoted directly from him instead of directly copying from me which would be so much easier considering my post was on the previous page. Contradictory much? This sounds more like you were trying to jump in on the Gmk suspicion, so as to start a Gmk mass lynch, and tried scouring the pages nitpicking whatever post Gmk made that discontented you the most or would make sense with your reasoning that you typed out. Which took you 10 minutes to look through 10 pages to find something that would hopefully make sense to people.
Next part:
I don't see any ridiculing, unfortunately. He also changed his vote on Da Jinks after Da Jinks had explained things over.
^
Which is why,
vote myusername22
cooliorules
That Awkward Noodle
That is the bit where I mean that if you died that I mean you would look inno if they died and showed up as maf.
Idk, it makes sense in my head but I got home from camp today and I'm still really tired, so I'm most likely being absolutely stupid and making no sense or making a really big and stupid and absolutely "what the hell is she doing" sort of thing.
cooliorules
That Awkward Noodle
(As to my lack of sleep, I am having a slight trouble trying to word things. I fell asleep at 8:30 last night in group time and then I fell asleep at a friends today as well. I'm just slightly tired. Hopefully what I'm saying will actually make more sense when I'm not tired.)
VOTECOUNT!!!
-Jivvi = 2(Prizyms, Da Jinks) (L-10)
-GmK = 3(Nottykitten, xXxFruitNinjaxXx, infernofox) (L-19)
-myusername22 = 3(Ooglie101, GmK, grimmjowforever) (L-19)
-ansoro2112 = 1(storm886) (L-11)
-Nottykitten = 1(ansoro2112) (L-11)
-Prizyms = 1(K1ngHoward) (L-11)
With 23 players left, takes 12 to lynch.
UNLESS ACTIVITY PICKS UP SUBSTANTIALLY, THE DAY WILL BE ENDING AT 11:00PM TODAY.
-Jivvi = 2(Prizyms, Da Jinks) (L-10)
-GmK = 3(Nottykitten, xXxFruitNinjaxXx, infernofox) (L-19)
-myusername22 = 3(Ooglie101, GmK, grimmjowforever) (L-19)
-ansoro2112 = 1(storm886) (L-11)
-Nottykitten = 1(ansoro2112) (L-11)
-Prizyms = 1(K1ngHoward) (L-11)
With 23 players left, takes 12 to lynch.
UNLESS ACTIVITY PICKS UP SUBSTANTIALLY, THE DAY WILL BE ENDING AT 11:00PM TODAY.
I'm really getting impatient with the lack of progress. We are doing the same thing every day. Nobody is townreading people and getting firm townreads - we are all simply shooting FoSes around and hoping one of them shows up as scum. It's getting boring and the more days we leave it the more people will die and the higher the chances we lose a PR (Then again, what would be the problem with that? The cop is either dead or senseless, and the other PRs don't matter as much as one which can at least get us some firm knowledge)
Vigilante, start killing tonight unless you were being blocked.
grimmjowforever
if you're going to use reasoning that can get others lynched
Please take the time and know what your talking about!
if you're going to use reasoning that can get others lynched
Please take the time and know what your talking about!
that is the quote I intended to use first that's why I used it. That is the one that has been bugging me for a while. the next statement was to refer to a second quote I couldn't find that i felt better demonstrated my third paragraph which is why I was looking for it, since I never found it i wrote this explaining I couldn't find it:hopefully this will help:
this has been bugging me for quite a while now!!! it does in some ways feel like he's poking at his best options because he can. But it's worse than that this feels like he's trying to do more than share his suspicions it feels like he's trying to make everyone suspicious and point some pretty big arrows to see where he can push people in to lynch.Ok, some of my opinions on the things that are happening currently. As I see it, we have a few simultaneous things going on, and are actually playing into the hand of scum, since we're all over the place. All they have to do currently is lean back, poke at things a bit, and see the town disintegrate itself...
1. Notty vs Me
Well, anyone of us that voted for Road looks suspicious, especially me since I started the first vote on him. Can't deny that. Compared to the other Road voters, I did give sound reasoning though at the time for why I did what I did. This can't be said for others like e.g. Da Jinks (I'll get to him in a bit).
So, Notty, your first point of me starting the vote on Road is correct, the way you phrase it is a pure interpretation only (which is what one does in Mafia :D). Your second point is of course utter speculation which you luckily cannot prove (and I unfortunately cannot de-prove, except say it).
Like you say, what you got isn't much, and at this point I am not taking your vote on me seriousley, sorry, no offense.
Except of course if you are a lurking scum and are trying to get at me. We shouldn't rule that out at this stage. It would make sense under the aspect of your vote being nonsensical, as one can easily hide real motives behind making a vote seem more out of fun than seriousness.
So, notty, are you scum?
2. Jivvi
I was surprised to see Prizyms' vote. But it also got me thinking:
Jivvi has always been present in the game, but has seldomly come out with info by himself. So far it's been "I'll ask some questions for you all to answer", followed by a waiting game and nonsensical offtopic posts, followed by jumping on an opportunistic bandwagon. I actually see it as a quite likely possibillity, that Jivvi could be scum, using usual behavior as a facade to hide motives.
This. The one moment someone does mention you could be scum, you get extremely defensive, fighting your way out of a situation that has not yet even occured.
Plausible Deniability? You discredit the vote on you by saying that is has no basis. That would be fine if there wasn't a basis. But there very well is, and it's imho more scummy to try and discredit a voter than to try and work with what they stated.
3. myusername22
Now that is just terrible. I hope a bit it was due to the time being 1am or something for you, but this alone would give me reason to immediately vote you.Yes I kind of trapped myself into a corner here. I feel soon both the town and mafia are going to try to kill me. I know myself to be town but I'm not sure I can convince many others of this. I also think I may have made myself a target of the mafia by trying to help out (I don't know what criteria they are trying to lynch first)
I don't feel I'll make it much longer in this game.
oddly enough, there isn't a single capital letter in my name. It would be alright to capitalize the first word but the second? you could be dramatizing it to make me look more suspicious (maybe)
this must be a really funny coincidence. Because around the same day I start to feel like a mafia target, someones pushing on me within the town. Seems a tad convenient, Doesn't it?
Dramatizing to make you look suspicious by mis-spelling your name? While yes, Hype has said something quite weird:
(I dont get this, when and why and how has myuser been a mafia target? How would you know? This has sort of been cleared up in the last few posts, but at that point it was really out of place and sudden), your own post is weirder.
And then you go on to almost admit defeat with your "I don't feel I'll make it much longer". You are asking for mercy since you feel like a victim that isn't able to defend itself any more. Emotional appealing won't help you, so if you are indeed town as you say you are, DO something to prove it, and don't just hope people will have pity. Because if you do, we might just as well lynch you today...
4. Da Jinks
Now, with this one I'm going out on a limb. We have a player, that has been mostly inactive, but always present just at the right time to post a vote or a statement like "I've not been here, soorryyyyy" and managed to fly under the radar very very well. Yes, others have also flown under the radar (quite a few actually), but they don't post sudden votes without anything substantial:
Da Jinks - buddy, give me a reason to take back the following (or a reason not to)
vote Da Jinks
I started to explain why i didn't have a quote for paragraph 3 there, I thought i saw a specific example between gmk and Jivvi but having not been able to find it it might've been a side thing off of my first quote. I think i was confused because It was 2 am and I was really tired at the time.
errr i messed up that spoiler >< let me correct that.
this isn't logical. You're creatively re-editing my words to fit together in ways they were never intended, If we start using things like that as concrete evidence were doomed for sure.
I Don't believe I did vote for him. He's suspicious in my eyes but I'm not voting for anyone in particular at this moment. HypeBurst asked why he was suspicious so I tried to help out by giving him the things I've found suspicious so he could take them into consideration and hopefully develop his own thoughts on the subject.
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