Trouble in the West: Pirates vs Cowboys [Finished]

[Timdood3]

Samlen, I agree with basically everything about that post, but I'm just gonna say this for the sake of covering possibilities.

(which miraculously turned into our favour).

We don't know that the Duffie was necessarily working against the town. Yes, third parties are largely unpredictable, but I'm pretty sure he was serial killer-y.

If I was a serial killer, I'd view the mafia as more of a threat than a lynch, as a potential stalker could find me out and shoot me while a town sided cop would just see me as innocent.

It's not only possible, but likely that Duffie was dousing those who he thought was mafia in an attempt to help out the town.

 

[Samlen]

[BCOLOR=rgb(255, 244, 229)]Samlen, I agree with basically everything about that post, but I'm just gonna say this for the sake of covering possibilities.[/BCOLOR]

We don't know that the Duffie was necessarily working against the town. Yes, third parties are largely unpredictable, but I'm pretty sure he was serial killer-y.

If I was a serial killer, I'd view the mafia as more of a threat than a lynch, as a potential stalker could find me out and shoot me while a town sided cop would just see me as innocent.

It's not only possible, but likely that Duffie was dousing those who he thought was mafia in an attempt to help out the town.

Except that Duffie knew about whom was Mafia/townie as much as we did, and less so than any cops/investigative roles out there. I don't think there's anything the arsonist would've done for us, their goal is to kill everyone. Yes, the mafia may have been more of a threat to Duffie than us, but regardless of what side he was trying to play for, he most likely would have killed more of us than mafia, and have helped them out more than us.

 

[Timdood3]

[BCOLOR=#fff4e5]Samlen, I agree with basically everything about that post, but I'm just gonna say this for the sake of covering possibilities.[/BCOLOR]

Except that Duffie knew about whom was Mafia/townie as much as we did, and less so than any cops/investigative roles out there. I don't think there's anything the arsonist would've done for us, their goal is to kill everyone. Yes, the mafia may have been more of a threat to Duffie than us, but regardless of what side he was trying to play for, he most likely would have killed more of us than mafia, and have helped them out more than us.

It was just something I thought was worth mentioning....Hand me a pint, and I'll be going back to the corner.

 

[Ansoro2112]

I will point out that we can get a head start on the next day by talking now, (which is probably the point of this party) so we may as well start talking, since most things are likely to be similar when the night ends with only 1 (maybe 2 or 3? Not completely certain if we've seen all the killing roles act so far) people dead. Now to get on talking.
I'm not sure there's much to say about Duffie being arsonist or theories we can draw from that, as third-party, his accusations/hunches can't lead anywhere since he probably didn't know whom any other Pirates/townies are. The next best thing to look for apart from the lynched person's ideas (which doesn't help in this case) is to look at whom voted and why they said they voted said lynched person. Most, if not all, reasons to vote Duffie were silly and illogical, and the whole thing turned into a bandwagon that coincidentally lead to the lynching of the arsonist. In almost any other case, we most likely would have lynched a innocent town member with the way people voted. So my first question to those whom voted for Duffie: Why did you vote that way?
Saying that it was a "hunch" is hardly excusable. That sort of reasoning is just as scum-like as using a false reason to vote someone, and will generally lead to confusion and needless death (in most cases).
Aside from that bit up there, let's not keep up the inactivity tonight that we did during the day; that lead to a deadline and ended up with panicked voting and a bandwagon (which miraculously turned into our favour).

Do I really need to explain myself again why I voted Duffie? Because honestly I've said it like 10 times now. So just go back and read. (Page 44).

 

[Samlen]

Do I really need to explain myself again why I voted Duffie? Because honestly I've said it like 10 times now. So just go back and read. (Page 44).

It was a general statement to those people, you were possibly the only one whom bothered with a logical explanation (that I can remember right now).

 

[HypeBurst]

My reasoning for voting Duffie was posted before my voting post. I thought that Duffie was trying too hard to stay on the "good" side of everyone and not ruffle any feathers. Most of his posts were like "I think hes inno" or "idk what he is" and it really stuck out to me considering I like to be rather accusing in these games. Of course thats not evidence for a definite lynch but by the time I voted it was 1 1/2 hours until the deadline so I decided to go with my gut, which ultimately paid off.

 

[GmK]

while a town sided cop would just see me as innocent.

We also don't know how cops work in this game, sometimes cops can see third party specifically as third party and not the often used "innocent". I crunched over a few theories in my head of how we can use the night to a good advantage, but the fact that you cannot vote takes away a powerful instrument to get people to reply / talk / react. But I have a simple question for everyone:

Do you consider yourself to behave suspiciously. If yes: why, if no: why not?

My own reply to that:

Yes, I see myself behaving seemingly weird when looked at from a certain perspective, and can fully understand why *some* people are put off by that.

 

[Enderfive]

Do you consider yourself to behave suspiciously. If yes: why, if no: why not?

No, not really. I haven't done anything radical or rash, I've thought my options through and I've gone with the ones that best suit me and the town in my opinion. There are a couple of things that some can deem suspicious about me, such as my increased inactivity on Day 2 or my continued suspicion in Swate which a lot of people don't seem to understand, especially since he hasn't acted all that suspicious lately in my opinion, but overall, no, I don't think I am suspicious or behave suspiciously.

 

[std1997]

Do you consider yourself to behave suspiciously. If yes: why, if no: why not?

Yes. Why?: I've been quiet this game which makes people think I might be lurking and thus give me a somewhat mafia impression though everyone has been kind of quiet this game.... also some may be suspicious because I didn't vote for Duffie, which I didn't vote for, because I didn't see any of the posts about him until he was already dead. ;-;

 

[Mooglie]

Do you consider yourself to behave suspiciously. If yes: why, if no: why not?
I dunno really, but I guess so. I did end up unintentionally leading a bandwagon onto Fiesta's lynch so yeah.

 

[digi]

Do you consider yourself to behave suspiciously. If yes: why, if no: why not?
I think I do, but it's unintentional.

So when does the day start?

 

[Ansoro2112]

Do you consider yourself to behave suspiciously. If yes: why, if no: why not?

Eh. Probably. But leaning more towards a no. I've always had my strong opinion about things and I don't know if that can be seemed as suspicious. Oh well.

 

[Prizyms]

Do you consider yourself to behave suspiciously. If yes: why, if no: why not?
I think I do, but it's unintentional.

So when does the day start?

After all night actions are sent!

 

[Timdood3]

Do you consider yourself to behave suspiciously?
Not overall, but I feel like some people aren't exactly convinced by my explanation for why I tried to go for hype earlier.

 

[Samlen]

Do you consider yourself to behave suspiciously. If yes: why, if no: why not?

I don't think I've behaved too suspiciously, I've mostly posted occasionally with my input on what looks logical from my perspective, and I think most of it has made sense to everyone. I've also helped a few times in the attempts to help make sure this game doesn't become too stagnant. Don't know for sure if everyone views me as non-suspicious, but I've tried.

 

[Swate]

Do you consider yourself to behave suspiciously? If yes, why? If no, why not?
I seem to come off as suspicious, judging from what others are saying. However, from what I can see, this is only because I made a few minor little stuff-ups. I don't consider my personal actions suspicious myself.

I will point out that we can get a head start on the next day by talking now, (which is probably the point of this party) so we may as well start talking, since most things are likely to be similar when the night ends with only 1 (maybe 2 or 3? Not completely certain if we've seen all the killing roles act so far) people dead. Now to get on talking.
I'm not sure there's much to say about Duffie being arsonist or theories we can draw from that, as third-party, his accusations/hunches can't lead anywhere since he probably didn't know whom any other Pirates/townies are. The next best thing to look for apart from the lynched person's ideas (which doesn't help in this case) is to look at whom voted and why they said they voted said lynched person. Most, if not all, reasons to vote Duffie were silly and illogical, and the whole thing turned into a bandwagon that coincidentally lead to the lynching of the arsonist. In almost any other case, we most likely would have lynched a innocent town member with the way people voted. So my first question to those whom voted for Duffie: Why did you vote that way?
Saying that it was a "hunch" is hardly excusable. That sort of reasoning is just as scum-like as using a false reason to vote someone, and will generally lead to confusion and needless death (in most cases).
Aside from that bit up there, let's not keep up the inactivity tonight that we did during the day; that lead to a deadline and ended up with panicked voting and a bandwagon (which miraculously turned into our favour).

Normally. I would not resort to having my vote based on such a perspective but not having a vote is poop with this deadline. Think of it as possibly being a catalyst placeholder, though don't count yourself out just yet thanks to that possibility.

I have already explained this. I didn't think it was a good idea to not have a vote, so I put my vote on the person I felt most suspicious about (none of the other arguments put up by other people really got to me, plus personal opinion). I was willing to change my vote should someone become more suspicious to me, but they didn't.
Also, it's not really "scum-like" imo, sure there's a fair chance that one of Duffie's voters were scum but how do you not know one of those voters was a cop who knew Duffie was a massive threat?

 

[HypeBurst]

Do you consider yourself to behave suspiciously? If yes, why? If no, why not?
I think as a whole no, I haven't been acting suspicious. I've been trying to think logically about each suspicion I've had and in times of indecision trusting that my gut instincts will pay off. There have been events such as the Jivvi issue who turned out to be the cop which may have looked rather fishy from the outside but I'm glad it was discussed by a large group and now people understand where I was coming from.

 

[GmK]

I deem everybody that hasn't replied yet as mightily suspicious

In any case, since this is still a party, let's have some drinks!

 

[Enderfive]

GmK always knows where the drinks are. o/

 

[Oak Milk]

Exams are kinda making it hard to respond

 

[cooliorules]

Okay so Western Power is going to be cutting power off so I won't be able to reply unless I can use the school internet while I'm there. Sorryyyy

 

[Samlen]

Well if our generous parteh host is giving us free drinks and no one's talking, guess there really isn't anything better ta do than drink up, that is until more people respond to the questions.

 

[Timdood3]

Well if our generous parteh host is giving us free drinks and no one's talking, guess there really isn't anything better ta do than drink up, that is until more people respond to the questions.

But 77 is the host, GmK has hosted every other party this game though :3

 

[Timdood3]

But 77 is the host, GmK has hosted every other party this game though :3

Wait what does that even mean? I need to think about stuff before I say it x3

GmK hosted every party in other games*
Though I mainly mean last game :3

 

[GmK]

Guys and Girls, I have an unfailable plan on how to eliminate the pirate pest that has befallen our lovely town, I got it whilst drinking some of our lovely drinks in the saloon: As you might know, pirates usually love rum. Lots of it. So by my estimation, they have a few barrells of the stuff in their ship. We just need to sneak in while they sleep, and set fire to a barrel. BOOOOOOM, since rum is highly flammable and stuff, and WHEEEEE all pirates burnt to a crisp. I am willing to not cry about the lost rum. If only we would have someone with experience when it comes to creating fires....

In all seriousness, people, prizyms clarified that the game continues when all actions are sent in, and since nobody is talking here, please, be so kind to send them in. OR contribute here, but let's not stall the game...