Trouble in the West: Pirates vs Cowboys [Finished]

[HypeBurst]

Ok yep claiming four night actions when theres only been three nights is basically the biggest slip i've ever seen. I knew I should have kept my FoS from Day 0.

vote Swate

 

[Enderfive]

Ok, let's ask you this: why did you target the people you claim you did?

 

[Swate]

No, we started with a Day phase and since then there have been 3 nights. Also, I saw the slip that Tim just pointed out about the cop report on you, but since he already pointed it out, I didn't mention it again.

There is no way in hell right now in my mind that you're innocent.

Also, this:

What. You have played one game before, you wouldn't make that sort of a mistake, especially since that other game also started with Day.

vote Swate

Yes, but in the first game all three of the Mafia members were put into one role PM and told they were all Mafia prior to the game starting. I don't know if that's how Prizyms does it in this game but that's how it worked in Alpha's game.

 

[GmK]

Swate, there has been three nights so far and you claim three targets, with abstaining from targeting the first night, so from your perspective, that would be four nights.

Can I just say that I don't trust your claim at all any more?

Extremely good catch!

Swate - if your "targets" aren't willing to prove your claim, not much will stop me from voting you.

 

[Enderfive]

Yes, but in the first game all three of the Mafia members were put into one role PM and told they were all Mafia prior to the game starting. I don't know if that's how Prizyms does it in this game but that's how it worked in Alpha's game.

Why and how is that even relevant

 

[Timdood3]

Yes, but in the first game all three of the Mafia members were put into one role PM and told they were all Mafia prior to the game starting. I don't know if that's how Prizyms does it in this game but that's how it worked in Alpha's game.

I'd like to take this moment to advise you to stay away from mechanics. It almost got me and Fiesta both modkilled last game.

 

[GmK]

I'd like to take this moment to advise you to stay away from mechanics. It almost got me and Fiesta both modkilled last game.

It's a thin line but from my experience not yet fully within the mechanics rule, but I do agree that it shouldnt be pursued any further before it does end in them.

 

[Swate]

Why and how is that even relevant

It continues on from the post where I quoted Tim. It's just above your comment.

I first went for OMO due to suspicion that Sploorky had put up from this (you'll have to go to the original comment to see the comment Sploorky is quoting:

And HOW do you know that. WHERE is that said? I have not found that written down anywhere. In the bloody masquerade, we knew the mafia right away. Until you provide evidence of how you would know, I'm writing that off as a slip.

vote old_man_oak_63

I then voted Duffie because she was going under the radar and I didn't like that.

I then went for storm886 for the same reason.

I didn't end up killing OMO because it started to seem like a legitimate little mishap with wording, Duffie and storm886 I almost killed purely because they just didn't say much but I ended up just letting them go because I realised that'd be a stupid misuse of power, killing someone for being inactive.

 

[HypeBurst]

Need to hear from @storm886 (sorry if someone has already tagged him)

 

[Swate]

Extremely good catch!

Swate - if your "targets" aren't willing to prove your claim, not much will stop me from voting you.

Well, by chance only one is even alive :\ one got mafia-killed and one lynched out of annoyance at going under the radar/general suspicion (the reason I even jailed him in the first place), other than that you'll have to wait for @storm886 to reply.

 

[Swate]

Bahaha hype you fabulous pink ninja

 

[GmK]

It continues on from the post where I quoted Tim. It's just above your comment.

I first went for OMO due to suspicion that Sploorky had put up from this (you'll have to go to the original comment to see the comment Sploorky is quoting:

I then voted Duffie because she was going under the radar and I didn't like that.

I then went for storm886 for the same reason.

I didn't end up killing OMO because it started to seem like a legitimate little mishap with wording, Duffie and storm886 I almost killed purely because they just didn't say much but I ended up just letting them go because I realised that'd be a stupid misuse of power, killing someone for being inactive.

Wat?

So you basically, conveniently, picked two players that are dead now so they cannot be taken to prove anything, and a player that's so inactive that we don't even know if he will react to your claim?

Let's tag him, shall we? @storm886 - is there any truth to Swates claim to have taken you into a "jail" thingy and done any of the communications he claims above?

 

[GmK]

....ninjas galore

 

[Timdood3]

Well I'd say that pretty much wraps everything up until the thundercloud arrives.

As for me, my work is done. It's nearly six in the morning and I haven't slept.....Good morning.

And, can we say that if Storm doesn't respond in say...24 hours...we just lynch Swate anyway to keep the game moving along nicely?

 

[HypeBurst]

Omg when storm sees his alerts in the morning.....!

The lynch shouldnt be finished until we hear from him but due to his activity that might take weeks :c

 

[GmK]

And, just for the sake of stating it:

If Ooglie is actually a scum cop (those can exist as well in closed setups, especially with the ability to find third parties that can hurt scum) or simply fakeclaiming, and we lynch digi or swate, and swate turns out to be scum / digi turns out to be innocent, it could mean that Ooglie's plan was to claim cop, get us to lynch digi (which, by the claim of Abhorrent Adam could be third party), and afterwards claim to be insane, taking off the heat to have had a false result. Maybe he did not anticipate us to go after Swate this strongly, especially if Ooglie is a fake-claiming partner of Swate.

Does that make any sense? Sorry, being a non native speaker makes things hard when it's about logic :D

Now, I personally don't think the above theory is the case, but we should not forget that it could be possible as well, we cannot auto-believe the claim and/or its intentions.

 

[Enderfive]

Not to mention the possibility that Swate could have just conviniently picked storm because storm is his mafia buddy and is hoping that storm confirms him. I mean, it's possible, storm has been extremely quiet anyway, flying under the radar, which could mean he's a mafia. A bit of a long-shot, but I'm convinced that Swate is mafia, or at least scum of some sort, I pushed him to get lynched Day 1 and I've grown more suspicious with every single day that passes.

 

[GmK]

And whilst we're at theories, one that came to my mind but is potentially the least likely since by a quick check there is no evidence about it:

Ooglie fake claims, and actually let's digi and swate play it out against each other. Both are innocent, now feel the need to prove their innocene whilst blaming the other to be scum, Ooglie can lean back, and whatever ends up happening (We lynch digi, turns up inno, we lynch swate, turns up inno), Ooglie could state "See, I am a normal cop / Insane cop", and we as town would lynch an innocent in any case - and follow up by lynching the other person.

Whilst that is an extremely cunning plan (it would be masterfully played!), like I said, I doubt it's fact.

 

[Enderfive]

And whilst we're at theories, one that came to my mind but is potentially the least likely since by a quick check there is no evidence about it:

Ooglie fake claims, and actually let's digi and swate play it out against each other. Both are innocent, now feel the need to prove their innocene whilst blaming the other to be scum, Ooglie can lean back, and whatever ends up happening (We lynch digi, turns up inno, we lynch swate, turns up inno), Ooglie could state "See, I am a normal cop / Insane cop", and we as town would lynch an innocent in any case - and follow up by lynching the other person.

Whilst that is an extremely cunning plan (it would be masterfully played!), like I said, I doubt it's fact.

That is possible as well, yeah. Best not to overthink things though, I'm fairly sure digi is inno and I'm also fairly sure that Ooglie is a cop of some sort, scum or not.

 

[GmK]

Not to mention the possibility that Swate could have just conviniently picked storm because storm is his mafia buddy and is hoping that storm confirms him. I mean, it's possible, storm has been extremely quiet anyway, flying under the radar, which could mean he's a mafia. A bit of a long-shot, but I'm convinced that Swate is mafia, or at least scum of some sort, I pushed him to get lynched Day 1 and I've grown more suspicious with every single day that passes.

So in your opinion: Even if storm confirms, lynch to be sure?

 

[Enderfive]

So in your opinion: Even if storm confirms, lynch to be sure?

My opinion is that Swate has pretty much confirmed himself to be lying at this point. I don't know if storm is innocent or not, although I admit that I'd like to think that he's more likely not to be, since that would fit so very well with Swate being mafia.

 

[Swate]

Going to sleep, night.

 

[storm886]

Well I didn't get any message about a meeting. Was it last night that you did it? Does it work with the party thing that went on?

 

[GmK]

Well I didn't get any message about a meeting. Was it last night that you did it? Does it work with the party thing that went on?

No matter if right now you are a scum member that busses his partner, or genuinly innocent, the statement is a pretty rusty, crunchy, strong nail in the coffin of Swates claim.

vote Swate

 

[GmK]

Inofficial Votecount II - Just keeping track

digitalmez (2) - Ooglie, Swate (6 to lynch)
Swate (4) - timdood3, endersteve5, Hypeburst, GmK (4 to lynch)

No vote (9) - Jeercrul, storm886, ansoro2112, std1997, JKangaroo, Samlen, cooliorules, digitalmez, 77_is_the_best