IC Guardians of the Elements

[Catcocomics]

((The artificial creation or destruction of even a white dwarf star is simply too powerful. Incase everyone forgot, stars are formed by masses of hydrogen in nebulae crushing itself with it's own gravity. When a star dies, it explodes in a great big super nova that wipes out more than half the solar system. Even if either jivvi's character or fiesta's character could destroy/create stars without causing massive nebulae or supernovas, there is still gravity and heat to consider:
if a planet is exposed to another star, particularly when it has life, its surface and atmospheric temperatures will sky rocket [[and if the star the planet orbits disappears, the temperature will plunge like a stone]].
Further more, stars are so massive that even the smallest and least dense stars have a gravitational field stronger than the Earth's by far. It is this gravitational field that keeps to planet from drifting off into random space.

As a side note, this planet we are on has to have at least one moon so that future oceans will be able to have a tide and support life.

I recommend it be that stars have no valid element to the guardians, because which ever guardian(s) could control/create/destroy star would be able to essentially play god over everyone else, even other guardian and alien races.

As a last note, the artificial creation of stars essentially = the artificial creation of phoenixes, primarily because phoenixes = a star's afterlife.))

[Edit]: ((Sorry if real life modern astronomy, physics, and other science isn't allowed on this thread, but the stuff listed above is pretty much real world science fact.))

 

[Toiletprincess]

((I've kinda always thought Jivvi was sorta overpowered too.. How about Jivvi didn't destroy the sun, he blocked it out with a weird darkness layer that formed above us? ))

 

[Timdood3]

((Yeah, I thought that's what was happening this whole time....I guess it just didn't fit in my mind that he could straight up destroy the sun.))

As a side note, this planet we are on has to have at least one moon so that future oceans will be able to have a tide and support life.

((Tides have nothing to do with supporting life. A standing ocean is quite fine enough.))

 

[Toiletprincess]

((Yeah, I thought that's what was happening this whole time....I guess it just didn't fit in my mind that he could straight up destroy the sun.))

((Tides have nothing to do with supporting life. A standing ocean is quite fine enough.))

(( A standing ocean would be stagnant ))

 

[Timdood3]

(( A standing ocean would be stagnant ))

((I'm the Guardian of Water, I say what water does, damn it xD ))

 

[Enderfive]

((Away for a week))

 

[Faliara]

((Yeah, I thought that's what was happening this whole time....I guess it just didn't fit in my mind that he could straight up destroy the sun.))

((I had thought that the entire time too .-. I'm guessing that to re-create the sun, it would be easier to recreate it with Pyro?))

 

[Catcocomics]

((I've been thinking it over a bit, and I finally notice something ironic:
Catcocomics, the Frost Phoenix, will reawaken when he recharges sufficient star power.
So if Pyro is some how capable of creating a star... do I really need to further explain the irony?

On a more scientific and mathematical note, however, it appears that jivvi's character was able to destroy this planet's star [[Which should cause the planet to slowly freeze over and die]] with out causing a super nova.
So where, may I ask, did that astronomically large amount of energy go? What happened to all of that hyper-heated hydrogen/helium and light/heat energy when the star was destroyed?))

 

[Timdood3]

((I've been thinking it over a bit, and I finally notice something ironic:
Catcocomics, the Frost Phoenix, will reawaken when he recharges sufficient star power.
So if Pyro is some how capable of creating a star... do I really need to further explain the irony?

On a more scientific and mathematical note, however, it appears that jivvi's character was able to destroy this planet's star [[Which should cause the planet to slowly freeze over and die]] with out causing a super nova.
So where, may I ask, did that astronomically large amount of energy go? What happened to all of that hyper-heated hydrogen/helium and light/heat energy when the star was destroyed?))

((I thought we all kind of agreed that the sun was not destroyed, only blotted out buy a thick layer of darkness shrouding the sky.))

 

[CaffeinatedKitty]

((Was gonna say this earlier. Decided not to. But for Pete's sake, I've just about had it. So, have this thing that refused to disappear from my chat box.
..
...isn't the point of this for fun and not for super-realisticness anyway? I mean, Alouette and Airis have wings. At least two others can fly under their own power. YOU YOURSELF need star power to function, and you can store things in your stomach. We have magic, and by the way most of us are supernatural beings that are going to create a humanoid race and keep their world from being just a gigantic ball of dirt. I'd say that just about kicks realism out the window anyway, so hey. Why don't we look at stars through the eyes of a six-year-old and say they're just big balls of light. Problem solved.))

 

[Toiletprincess]

((Was gonna say this earlier. Decided not to. But for Pete's sake, I've just about had it. So, have this thing that refused to disappear from my chat box.
..
...isn't the point of this for fun and not for super-realisticness anyway? I mean, Alouette and Airis have wings. At least two others can fly under their own power. YOU YOURSELF need star power to function, and you can store things in your stomach. We have magic, and by the way most of us are supernatural beings that are going to create a humanoid race and keep their world from being just a gigantic ball of dirt. I'd say that just about kicks realism out the window anyway, so hey. Why don't we look at stars through the eyes of a six-year-old and say they're just big balls of light. Problem solved.))

((Um I think most of us already agreed that it should be a shroud of darkness .-. ))

((I'm the Guardian of Water, I say what water does, damn it xD ))

(( Tim you create water but whether it's stagnant or not depends on whether it has tides. ))

(( Also I'd like to add in that even though we have magic, giving this storyline heavily flawed logic would probably ruin the entire thing. Therefore saying a star is a ball of light isn't the solution we need. Not only that - but a ball of light in itself is not capable of creating heat that is sufficient to keep the planet from having an eternal ice age whether the star was destroyed or not. Remember this planet has magic and crazy things, yes, but that's this planet and not the entire universe for gods sake. There is a very likely chance that in the universe or galaxy this planet is in there is a planet quite similar to the one we actually live on. ))

Edited. I originally posted this half asleep on my phone.

 

[Catcocomics]

There is a very likely chance that in the universe or galaxy this planet is in there is a planet quite similar to the one we actually live on

((This is an understatement. To get the best idea mankind has had of the full, real world, I'd recommend "Into The Universe With Stephen Hawking", and even the summary of all that is a big understatement. Welcome to the world of endless possibilities.

I am also disappointed in myself for failing to understand that the majority [[Including myself]] had agreed that the sky is simply shrouded. I apologize.

I acknowledge that there are some other points I could carry on about, but I feel as if doing so would seem overly rude.

 

[Timdood3]

((I feel as if we're spending far too much time here arguing, and not enough RPing ;-; ))

((This planet may die, but this thread will not!))

 

[CaffeinatedKitty]

((ugh I need to curl up in a ball and hide under a blanket for a few days))

 

[Timdood3]

((I'm just going to put this here to at get this back on track. Alouette, Pyro, Fauna, Takot, the five of us need to finish our journey to the cave, meet up with Airis, Remellia, and Endal, then go back to the crater to Cyra, Kysa, and the unconscious bodies of Catco and Light. We can work out the specific plot points from there, but that is what needs to happen to get this moving again.))

((So, those near me, shall we skip to our arrival at the cave? Time has passed since I asked Alouette why we were going to the cave, you know, with Cyra and Remillia's thing, I'd say that's enough to to arrive. Unless any of the four of you wish to have a conversation in the meantime.))

 

[Guest35486]

((I'm just going to put this here to at get this back on track. Alouette, Pyro, Fauna, Takot, the five of us need to finish our journey to the cave, meet up with Airis, Remellia, and Endal, then go back to the crater to Cyra, Kysa, and the unconscious bodies of Catco and Light. We can work out the specific plot points from there, but that is what needs to happen to get this moving again.))

((So, those near me, shall we skip to our arrival at the cave? Time has passed since I asked Alouette why we were going to the cave, you know, with Cyra and Remillia's thing, I'd say that's enough to to arrive. Unless any of the four of you wish to have a conversation in the meantime.))

((Also, Remilia knows Purification's with Cyra at the crater due to the dream meeting thing))

 

[Toiletprincess]

((This is an understatement. To get the best idea mankind has had of the full, real world, I'd recommend "Into The Universe With Stephen Hawking", and even the summary of all that is a big understatement. Welcome to the world of endless possibilities.

I am also disappointed in myself for failing to understand that the majority [[Including myself]] had agreed that the sky is simply shrouded. I apologize.

I acknowledge that there are some other points I could carry on about, but I feel as if doing so would seem overly rude.

(( This has no relevance to the point I was making. I was simply saying that we shouldn't go overboard with the magic thing, as there may be magic on this planet but we have to remember that Ender didn't appear on every planet, therefore magic would be non-existant. Also, we shouldn't be able to effect the universe around our planet anyway, we're Guardians of the planet, not the universe and everything surrounding it. This being said, that means Jivvi should've been incapable of effecting the sun and in conclusion the most likely scenario that could've occured would be a shroud of darkness. Even so, I still don't understand why Jivvi needed to do that. The layer of debris in the atmosphere was never dissipated, Light just gave the planet some temporary light - therefore all Jivvi would've needed to do was get rid of the light and then the debris would do the rest for him. ))

((This is all off what I've observed, if I missed something out then I apologise ))

 

[Faliara]

(( This has no relevance to the point I was making. I was simply saying that we shouldn't go overboard with the magic thing, as there may be magic on this planet but we have to remember that Ender didn't appear on every planet, therefore magic would be non-existant. Also, we shouldn't be able to effect the universe around our planet anyway, we're Guardians of the planet, not the universe and everything surrounding it. This being said, that means Jivvi should've been incapable of effecting the sun and in conclusion the most likely scenario that could've occured would be a shroud of darkness. Even so, I still don't understand why Jivvi needed to do that. The layer of debris in the atmosphere was never dissipated, Light just gave the planet some temporary light - therefore all Jivvi would've needed to do was get rid of the light and then the debris would do the rest for him. ))

((Thank you. Let's put it this way; this does go with IRL facts such as the existence of stars and such, but we do not have to completely go with it. In the first place, there was nothing set in stone when the RP started. End of discussion.))

 

[Mooglie]

(( Timdood3 I'm k with that c: ))

 

[Guest35486]

Guardian of Corruption​

Tired of lying down, Cyra stood up and walked back to the group. Maybe she should try to understand Purification better.

"Hey Kysa." Cyra tapped Kysa's shoulder from behind. "I'm curious. How does the aspect of purification work?"

((CofeeThePotato
EDIT: Tell me when you're free so we can rp on IRC or something))

 

[CaffeinatedKitty]

((ok tim that's good))

 

[CofeeThePotato]

"'I'm not really sure... I guess I have to touch something that is messy or dirty to clean it of all filth." Kysa says, sighing. "It probably won't do anything to help light though, so for right now I suppose I'm useless."

Well, useless unless you want your clothes cleaned up.....

 

[Guest35486]

Guardian of Corruption​

"How does one determine if something is filthy or not? Can you touch something without activating your power? Can you clean something you cannot see?" Cyra continued asking.

((CofeeThePotato ))

 

[Jivvi]

((I believe it was a shroud initially but that drew complaints of the total darkness, so I consumed the star using the shroud. This released the sky and allowed for stars to shine, which everyone originally liked much better. Besides, heat would die if consumed in darkness: and empty void; the presumed vacuum would quench the flames. I can go full science if you like or we can return to the RP))

 

[Toiletprincess]

((I believe it was a shroud initially but that drew complaints of the total darkness, so I consumed the star using the shroud. This released the sky and allowed for stars to shine, which everyone originally liked much better. Besides, heat would die if consumed in darkness: and empty void; the presumed vacuum would quench the flames. I can go full science if you like or we can return to the RP))

(( It wasn't a shroud. It was debris. And you never said you used it to consume the sun, you just said darkness consumed it. In things such as this it's vital to be clear about what you're saying to avoid confusion. ))