Hectic Hawaii (Game Over)

[cooliorules]

Also, I'm going to clear this up.

Peach's (my) win condition:

• To have EVERYONE (I'm assuming apart from myself) in an inn, doesn't matter which, at the end of the game.

Azure's (Duffie's) win condition:

• To have at least one person in each inn
• To fulfill my win condition

Since there seems to be some confusion.
Mine is ONLY everyone in an inn. Duffie is both.
If that makes sense x)

 

[CaffeinatedKitty]

That is indeed what was said. O^O there isn't an OTP pls

 

[cooliorules]

CaffxFiesta otp

(this isn't an attempt to make them not see the text btw don't kill me)

 

[cooliorules]

Back onto the game, I, for some reason, feel as if Ender isn't mafia. I just have a hunch.

I believe Fruit to an extent - he could be a mafia member and just hoping there isn't another cop in the game?

Also Caff, people were slightly suspicious of you and to claim the easiest role you can (vanilla) is a little... off, to me. Not too sure how I feel exactly about it.

 

[cooliorules]

Triple post because wheeee this is somewhat important I guess sorta to me

I also have to be in an inn at the end of the game to fulfill my win condition.

 

[Duffie]

Peach's (my) win condition:

• To have EVERYONE (I'm assuming apart from myself) in an inn, doesn't matter which, at the end of the game.

Azure's (Duffie's) win condition:

• To have at least one person in each inn
• To fulfill my win condition

Since there seems to be some confusion.
Mine is ONLY everyone in an inn. Duffie is both.
If that makes sense x)

And I wouldn't have known I had to keep everyone in an inn without talking to you about it. xP

Triple post because wheeee this is somewhat important I guess sorta to me

I also have to be in an inn at the end of the game to fulfill my win condition.

And oh. Well...

If you people don't mess with it, I'd like to put her in an inn, thank you. D:<

 

[Fiestaguy]

So... I think everyone has claimed except for Fiesta basically?
So, Fiestaguy
who are you? >;c

Very well. I am indeed, a third party.
I am the hotel-dweller.
I got two win conditions.
1.) I am alive by the end of the game.
2.) I have stayed in at least every hotel once.

I do indeed have a night action, Every other night I may choose to 'intercept' someone who is switching a hotel. If I choose one of the two persons who is switching a hotel, I will switch with the other instead of them. For example. Duffie chose Ender and Caff to switch. Should I have targeted Caff then I would be switched instead of caff thus effectively switching me and Ender. Tough not having much to go off first night I targeted Fruit wich essentially now had no effect.

Yes I lied about being a third-party. That was to check if someone else might've come up front first saying they are. If I would've claimed third party before I was scared they would label me as the official and only third party in the game thus effectively getting away with it safely.

Sorry if this caused any inconveniences.

 

[Fiestaguy]

Also, excuse the late reaction. These people like to shut off the internet w/out warning >.>

 

[cooliorules]

So how many 3rd parties do we have?

Myself
Duffie
Fiesta(noob)

Is that is?
Mmk, well, that's like over a third of the amount of people left :/ I don't find that exactly likely...

Although, last night, duffie didn't you say you had to win with town? That may be just me. I'll read back through the PM to check that, actually

 

[Fiestaguy]

So how many 3rd parties do we have?

Myself
Duffie
Fiesta(noob)

Is that is?
Mmk, well, that's like over a third of the amount of people left :/ I don't find that exactly likely...

Although, last night, duffie didn't you say you had to win with town? That may be just me. I'll read back through the PM to check that, actually

It is true we're all third party instead of town, but remember: I win if I survive. Letting the mafia win would mean my death including my loss. So I'm kinda on the town's side of this everything.

 

[cooliorules]

It is true we're all third party instead of town, but remember: I win if I survive. Letting the mafia win would mean my death including my loss. So I'm kinda on the town's side of this everything.

I just can't see nearly a third of the total players being 3rd party.

 

[Nottykitten]

My opinion is still that Ender, Caff and Fiesta are the three Mafia.

 

[Mooglie]

Much like Coolio, I do not believe Fiesta.

So, at the beginning there were 10 people.
The suspected amount was 3 townies, 3 PRs, 3 mafia and 1 third party or 3 townies, 3 PRs, 2 mafia, 2 third party

I'm inclined to believe both Duffie's and Coolio's claims as third party since on the first day Duffie thought that a large amount of people were third party which makes sense if you know there are atleast 2.
I also believe that Notty is innocent due to having the exact same role as me with info I hadn't revealed.
I trust Fruit's claim (and if we lynch a Mafia today, he will unfortunately die tonight since it's the obvious choice).
We also know that Ltin (the Vigi) and 77 (the Doctor) are both dead.

With this info put together with the second idea (3T/3PR/2M/2TP) we have removed 2 townies, 3 PRs and the 2 third parties which leaves 2 mafia and 1 innocent left over.
As odd as it sounds... even though I said I was 99.99% sure Caff was mafia at one point due to being a regular towny - I'm actually starting to believe this claim since it fits nicely and might just be something to throw us off made by Tim.

Now, Ender said that he was the 'Keyholder' (keep players in the same hotel). Do I believe this claim? Yes. Do I believe that he is innocent? No. I think that this role is a Mafia role, with the typical 'You can do this or make a kill' added on. It's make specifically to counter third parties which are not a threat to town as it seems. Then again, the claim could be absolute garbage and he's just making it up, but I am pretty sure that he is telling the (partial) truth about his role, just not his alignment.

Next up is Fiesta who said he was the 'hotel-dweller' who intercepts with Duffie's role switches. Do I believe this claim? Not too sure. Do I believe that he is innocent? No. Much like Ender I believe it is the exact same thing. Another big reason why I don't believe this claim is... why? What is the POINT in staying in each hotel once. The innkeeper is to have everyone in an inn, the lodging manager is to have at least 1 person in each hotel room by the end of the game, tourists are touring Hawaii and are just staying in different hotels, cop investigates, keyholder to keep the key to each hotel so people can't switch, etc, etc and then the regular towny.

From my point of view, I find Fiesta the most suspicious one and am fairly certain he is a mafia member so...
vote Fiestaguy

 

[CaffeinatedKitty]

Yes, for some reason or another I was thinking he was mafia last night in the hotel... Upon looking back, I couldn't figure out why, but then again I was on my phone. I'll look again when I get on my laptop.

 

[Fiestaguy]

Much like Coolio, I do not believe Fiesta.

So, at the beginning there were 10 people.
The suspected amount was 3 townies, 3 PRs, 3 mafia and 1 third party or 3 townies, 3 PRs, 2 mafia, 2 third party

I'm inclined to believe both Duffie's and Coolio's claims as third party since on the first day Duffie thought that a large amount of people were third party which makes sense if you know there are atleast 2.
I also believe that Notty is innocent due to having the exact same role as me with info I hadn't revealed.
I trust Fruit's claim (and if we lynch a Mafia today, he will unfortunately die tonight since it's the obvious choice).
We also know that Ltin (the Vigi) and 77 (the Doctor) are both dead.

With this info put together with the second idea (3T/3PR/2M/2TP) we have removed 2 townies, 3 PRs and the 2 third parties which leaves 2 mafia and 1 innocent left over.
As odd as it sounds... even though I said I was 99.99% sure Caff was mafia at one point due to being a regular towny - I'm actually starting to believe this claim since it fits nicely and might just be something to throw us off made by Tim.

Now, Ender said that he was the 'Keyholder' (keep players in the same hotel). Do I believe this claim? Yes. Do I believe that he is innocent? No. I think that this role is a Mafia role, with the typical 'You can do this or make a kill' added on. It's make specifically to counter third parties which are not a threat to town as it seems. Then again, the claim could be absolute garbage and he's just making it up, but I am pretty sure that he is telling the (partial) truth about his role, just not his alignment.

Next up is Fiesta who said he was the 'hotel-dweller' who intercepts with Duffie's role switches. Do I believe this claim? Not too sure. Do I believe that he is innocent? No. Much like Ender I believe it is the exact same thing. Another big reason why I don't believe this claim is... why? What is the POINT in staying in each hotel once. The innkeeper is to have everyone in an inn, the lodging manager is to have at least 1 person in each hotel room by the end of the game, tourists are touring Hawaii and are just staying in different hotels, cop investigates, keyholder to keep the key to each hotel so people can't switch, etc, etc and then the regular towny.

From my point of view, I find Fiesta the most suspicious one and am fairly certain he is a mafia member so...
vote Fiestaguy

What is the point in staying in each hotel once? Well don't ask me. I did not write these roles. I'm just following the win condition giving to me by the host.

Would you mind telling me why you think I am the most suspicious/are you so certain I am mafia?

Furthermore you said Ender might have lied about his alignment but his role isn't bull. Could you exactly tell me why we can't think that of you or notty? For all we know you might be a Mafia member allowed to pick a hotel.

 

[Mooglie]

Would you mind telling me why you think I am the most suspicious/are you so certain I am mafia?

(even though I practically answered this I'll just say it again)

• Your role ability affects the third parties from winning. The third party are not a threat for the town since they are harmless. If there was a Serial Killer, that would instead be a third party threat for the town, but it does not seem like there is an SK in the game.
• The win condition makes no sense. Even if you say 'ooo that isn't my fault', it's a anomaly in comparison to everyone else. This makes me think that the role is possibly, and positively, made up.
• Process of elimination. I am certain that me, Fruit, Notty, Duffie and Coolio are not mafia. I'm on the fence about Caff, but am fairly certain she is a third townie. If not if you are lynched today, I will lynch Ender tomorrow and if the game doesn't end there I'll lynch Caff.

Furthermore you said Ender might have lied about his alignment but his role isn't bull. Could you exactly tell me why we can't think that of you or notty? For all we know you might be a Mafia member allowed to pick a hotel.

• Ender's role ability is something that goes against third parties from winning, much like you. Look for reasoning above.
• Notty and I can't stay in the same inn each night, meaning that we have to perform an action to get in an inn. As I have already said, I believe that Mafia have the 'You can do this or kill tonight' style which means it is impossible following our role requirements to perform an action rather than change an inn at all.

Meanwhilst, problem I saw in my other post:

who intercepts with Duffie's role switches.

Meant to say room switches, woops.

 

[Fiestaguy]

(even though I practically answered this I'll just say it again)

• Your role ability affects the third parties from winning. The third party are not a threat for the town since they are harmless. If there was a Serial Killer, that would instead be a third party threat for the town, but it does not seem like there is an SK in the game.
• The win condition makes no sense. Even if you say 'ooo that isn't my fault', it's a anomaly in comparison to everyone else. This makes me think that the role is possibly, and positively, made up.
• Process of elimination. I am certain that me, Fruit, Notty, Duffie and Coolio are not mafia. I'm on the fence about Caff, but am fairly certain she is a third townie. If not if you are lynched today, I will lynch Ender tomorrow and if the game doesn't end there I'll lynch Caff.

Hold on there skippy. How exactly do I prevent them from winning? Their goal is to makesure everyone's in an hotel room by the end. If you think about it. There isn't really away for me substituting for another person will prevent the others from winning.

α and β are resting in 'Hotel A'
γ and λ are resting in 'Hotel B'
η and ω are resting in 'Hotel C'

Let's say λ has the ability to intercept anyone who switches.
α and γ will switch. λ chooses γ so α and λ switch instead.

[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]λ and β are resting in 'Hotel A'[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]γ and α are resting in 'Hotel B'[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]η and ω are resting in 'Hotel C'[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)][/BCOLOR]
Let's say both ω and η die. So the lodge-manager dude decides to switch the dead body of ω with γ:
λ chooses γ so λ and ω will switch:

[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]ω and β are resting in 'Hotel A'[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]γ and α are resting in 'Hotel B'[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)]η and λ are resting in 'Hotel C'[/BCOLOR]
[BCOLOR=rgba(255, 255, 255, 0)][/BCOLOR]
No harm done. One living person in every hotel.

Furthermore. Can you tell me exactly how my role is an anomaly? The game seems to revolve around players switching back and forth between hotels. I think my role isn't that weird for such a theme.

• Notty and I can't stay in the same inn each night, meaning that we have to perform an action to get in an inn. As I have already said, I believe that Mafia have the 'You can do this or kill tonight' style which means it is impossible following our role requirements to perform an action rather than change an inn at all.

The argument 'Only this or kill' is bullshit. If Tim requires you to switch hotels and are mafia then he would've noticed and allowed you to do both. It's honestly something someone can bend in their favor. Then. There's always the possibility that 'We HAVE to switch' is a lie.

 

[Nottykitten]

You lost me when you started using Greek letters instead of names/actual letters. So basicly I didn't understand a single thing you said in the top half of your post.

The argument 'Only this or kill' is bullshit. If Tim requires you to switch hotels and are mafia then he would've noticed and allowed you to do both. It's honestly something someone can bend in their favor. Then. There's always the possibility that 'We HAVE to switch' is a lie.

Well there is 2 people saying that it isn't a lie. And the argument isn't "bullshit" it is a very often occuring mechanic where people can only do one night action. Yes maybe Tim allowed us to do two things in this game but I don't think he did.

And I don't think he would need to since I'm pretty sure Ooglie is also town.

 

[Fiestaguy]

You lost me when you started using Greek letters instead of names/actual letters. So basicly I didn't understand a single thing you said in the top half of your post.

Well there is 2 people saying that it isn't a lie. And the argument isn't "bullshit" it is a very often occuring mechanic where people can only do one night action. Yes maybe Tim allowed us to do two things in this game but I don't think he did.

And I don't think he would need to since I'm pretty sure Ooglie is also town.

Oh comeon. Is it that hard to look at icons? Most of them even look like regular letters .-.

Two people saying it isn't a lie can mean anything. It could be you both being mafia, or one taking advantage of the others' opinion using that exact same argument.

Going to the train now. Will reply when I got time.

 

[Mooglie]

How exactly do I prevent them from winning?

Coolio's is to make sure that everyone has been in a hotel room. You can intercept with the person who isn't in an inn to keep them outside the whole time.

There's always the possibility that 'We HAVE to switch' is a lie.

So me and Notty can keep switching to the same inn to make sure that we're telling the truth??? How about we both move into The Cracked Coconut tonight?
That okay Nottykitten ?
inb4 one of gets keyhold-ed
or intercepted.

The argument 'Only this or kill' is bullshit.

It's a possibility. We have no evidence, yet it is a typical rule followed in all Mafia games. I'm fairly certain that me, Notty and Caff are the 3 people mentioned in the flavour ext at the beginning.
inb4 'o flavour text shouldn't be followed'

Furthermore. Can you tell me exactly how my role is an anomaly?

The win condition makes no sense. Even if you say 'ooo that isn't my fault', it's a anomaly in comparison to everyone else.

I was very specific with my wording here, I said your win condition is an anomaly - not role.

 

[Nottykitten]

Thats alright, I'm not gonna go to the Banana hotel anyways so wheee Coconut it is! =D

 

[CaffeinatedKitty]

Couldn't find anything. *shrug* was probably either half-asleep or looking too hard then.

 

[cooliorules]

Do we really have to start using a different damn alphabet. Like. Bleh.

I find 3 third parties highly unlikely. I'm sorry, but in such a small setup? I could understand 2, Duffie and I (especially seeing we can talk at night about our actions and whatnot), but 3? I just don't find that possible.

I'm going to see what happens for a little bit. I'm absolutely worn out from exams today :/
I'll most likely reply in the morning

 

[Nottykitten]

I'm gonna go with Ooglie on this one. I already said I was pretty sure the 3 Mafia are Ender, Fiesta and Caff. So I'll vote for Fiesta aswell then. I don't think this will be a mislynch \o/

Vote Fiestaguy

 

[Fiestaguy]

I'm gonna go with Ooglie on this one. I already said I was pretty sure the 3 Mafia are Ender, Fiesta and Caff. So I'll vote for Fiesta aswell then. I don't think this will be a mislynch \o/

Vote Fiestaguy

I'm not sure I should laugh or cry when we lose because of this lynch XD