SCP - Secure, Contain, Mafia [GAME OVER]

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Um. If you're town, then why should you care if attention is drawn to you? This is the sort of thing that really sets off my scum radar. This may seem a little drastic, but...
vote iggy234.
I must concur that the statement was indeed odd. However, to me I didn't see the statement siding well either way. Sure if you assume the reasoning to be due to the Iggy's role it could be the most obvious Mafia slip in the game. Or it could be the other way where Iggy is a town power role we need such as the cop or doctor who slipped and said they didn't want attention drawn on them giving themselves away by mistake.

A more likely option is that Iggy wasn't making the statement based on their role and simply didn't want attention drawn on them because let's be honest, it doesn't matter what side your on if you don't agree with majority opinion while in the spotlight it's easy to have accusations thrown at you. Not to mention maybe they've seen the shitstorm this game can turn into at times and didn't want to get into unnecessary drama.

I'm not trying to defend Iggy.
I'm not saying Iggy is innocent.
Caff, I'm just wondering if you'd considered these possibilities as well?
 

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Since I don't want to attract attention to myself I'm going to say
vote no lynch
Give us a better reason or unvote. The only reasons you wouldn't want to attract attention to yourself is because you're mafia, a power role or just being selfish and not wanting to contribute to the game in fear of getting lynched.

And in other news
Unvote
 

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Ok so today has gotten a little less nonsense and slightly more semi-logical talking going on (but barely still...)

Unsurprisingly, the topic for now is 'Lynch or No-Lynch'. Regardless of which we go for, we need to talk more. The idea of talking and people's actions/reactions is how we initially determine our suspicions for whom to lynch, or whom to think about lynching. If we don't lynch, then that IS one less opportunity to catch a Mafia member, regardless of how you look at it. It is true that we could easily loose a town member if we lynch, but we run that risk EVERY day we lynch, and we have to start lynching at some point. And honestly, waiting for the investigative roles (or some other 'magical' event to occur) has many flaws with it, whether they die, are roleblocked, and that we generally don't have them claim for one investigation. We'll probably have mostly the same general situation tomorrow (albeit, a few less people, and probably important ones at that), so we might as well get a move on today.

The only problem with this is the majority of people's mentality: the expectation that today will end in a no-lynch, so we might as well get it over with. Because of this mentality, it's difficult to start up the necessary conversations today that we need in order to start the game rolling and learning whom is acting suspicious and whom isn't. If we can get more people out of this mentality, then we can get in a lynch today, but otherwise, today will end in a no-lynch.

On suspicions note, there's not much noteworthy yet other than Iggy's post and Caf's initial reaction to it. It's true, Iggy's post could be seen as suspicious, but there are to many variables with a relatively new player and this early in a game to decide that. I would prefer if he made more a reason behind this, or even if he spoke more at all, but for now, it will just be a mental note in my mind. Now Caff's reaction was interesting. The way Caff reacted was... decidedly trigger-happy in a way. She jumped very quickly with her vote on Iggy, as though very interested in lynching the first person she could. Doesn't feel very pro-town, but nothing's solid either way, as with Iggy's post. Overall, I'm making notes of both the action and reaction, but I'm slightly more interested in Caff's reaction than Iggy's action.
 

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Let's all think about it.

No one wants attention on themselves. I somehow get too damn much of it near the end of games.
Whatever your role is, you don't want the attention on yourself.

Now, the reaction to that was a bit.. as if you're happy to just go out on a limb.

I don't know what my position on this is, but it'll stick in my mind.
I also don't know where this was going.
 

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Samlen brings up a good point. A lot of the votes on day 0 are 'no lynch because it's gonna happen anyways.' And it just ruins the opportunity of day 0. People waste discussion that could lead to a lynch.

Now, I usually lean towards no lynch, but I'm usually one of the last to vote for it, if at all. With this big of a game, maybe it won't be such a bad idea to lynch someone.

Now, as to caff and iggy, I feel caff's vote is somewhat justified, when he said he doesn't want to bring attention to himself, that made me bring my attention to him. I wouldn't jump right on the gun and vote for him, but it's definitely questionable, and I would like for him to respond to the vote and such.
And, I feel like oak's vote was more out of the ordinary that caff's. That one definitely caught my eye a little more. Didn't really seem to have a whole lot to back it up other than her repetitive question of what do you think the layout (which i don't like and won't answer, especially because of the confusion it caused last game which i guess somewhat justifies oak's vote, and im starting to double think everything. I just hope people don't get a set mentality of how many of each group there are. If there is a new day, that means there's more mafia to lynch, end of story [in my head])
 

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Although, Fali, a quick tip here: bandwagoning (following the majority just because they're the majority) is typically considered quite scummy. After a couple of dozen pages you should be familiar enough with the game to start thinking for yourself, so unless you can justify your actions with your own reasons, it's typically best not to follow a bandwagon just because it has many people supporting the idea.
... Okay. =o Didn't think of it like that. Thanks, though my vote still stands.
 

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Wow damn I was like 3 pages behind happy to see this thing thriving, at this point there are a few people really sticking out to me and I'm willing to throw a pebble into the scale to lynch them.

Among these people I have yet to come to a clear decision so I'm going to wait and weigh on a few more reactions.
 

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Wow. So much happening since I've said something. o.o I know it's not a lot for a post (I'm exhausted and just ready to try and get my old job back tomorrow.) but all that I have read really has me conflicted on if I want to no lynch or actually try and lynch someone today.
 

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Vote Count: The one where the host is unwriting a story :eek:
Nottykitten: 1 (Old_Man_Oak_63) [14 more]
Ltin: 2 (Ooglie101) [14 more]
Iggy234: 1 (Caffeinatedkitty) [14 more]
Caffeinatedkitty: 1 (Ltin) [14 more]
No Lynch/Lunch?: 7 (Nottykitten, Midnightgirl24, Dessern5, Iggy234, Raxo2222, Naoh, Faliara) [7 more]


28 are present, 15 votes for a murder and 14 votes for a no lynch.

If there are any miscounts/formatting errors. Please let us know!
 

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Hey all, am trying to keep up, but if ya'll write so much it's hard, since I only have a few min to access the forums currently. The joys of far away travels ^^

Anyhow, one thing that I think hasn't been brought up: In some games the mafia knows from the start who their partners are, in some they don't.

Now, Fiesta certainly won't tell us if Mafia know their partners, but if we assume they do, maaaybe some of those posts can be re-validated by checking for some D0 bussing. Or at least we can check if some people seem to already follow along 'their connected' path.

In general, just like endersteve5 I have always been a strong defender of doing a D0 lynch, but since I am currently only half into the game, I am not able to form a proper opinion yet / don't want to risk going on a limb just yet.
 
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